Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:55:17PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 11:45 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:06:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > > > On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
> > > > changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
> > > > proposed-updates. 
> > > 
> > > Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
> > > so.
> > 
> > Ok, thanks
> 
> In fact, I found a tuit and the SUA went out last night.
> 

Great, thanks.


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-24 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 11:45 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:06:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > > On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
> > > changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
> > > proposed-updates. 
> > 
> > Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
> > so.
> 
> Ok, thanks

In fact, I found a tuit and the SUA went out last night.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-24 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:06:27PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
> > changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
> > proposed-updates. 
> 
> Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
> so.

Ok, thanks

> > Anyway for the current status, 2011h is in s-p-u, while sid has 2011j,
> > bringing DST changes for Samoa, New Foundland and creating a South
> > Soudan entry. 2011k is going to be released on September 26th, bringing 
> > changes to Palestine and Belarus. So it looks like we can already upload
> > 2011i for Lenny, and push 2011j to volatile just after. For Squeeze we 
> > can go directly to 2011j.
> 
> 2011k?

Yes, sorry

> > Can I already start with the upload to o-s-p-u or should I open a bug
> > for that?
> 
> Feel free to upload if you wish.  fwiw, although uploads for 5.0.9
> officially close over the weekend, I'd be minded to make an exception
> for a tzdata upload if it could made as early in the week as reasonably
> possible.
> 

Ok, I have just uploaded 2011j to o-s-p-u for now. I will see if 2011k 
is really released on Monday. It contains quite important changes, but 
not urgent (they will be need for the 3rd week of October). There is 
currently a lot of discussions on the upstream mailing list for the name
of the new timezone for West Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

For squeeze, I'll wait to see how things are going upstream and will 
upload either 2011j or 2011k depending on that.

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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-23 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 23:52 +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
> changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
> proposed-updates. 

Assuming squeeze-updates, I'll have a look at that in the next day or
so.

> Anyway for the current status, 2011h is in s-p-u, while sid has 2011j,
> bringing DST changes for Samoa, New Foundland and creating a South
> Soudan entry. 2011k is going to be released on September 26th, bringing 
> changes to Palestine and Belarus. So it looks like we can already upload
> 2011i for Lenny, and push 2011j to volatile just after. For Squeeze we 
> can go directly to 2011j.

2011k?

> Can I already start with the upload to o-s-p-u or should I open a bug
> for that?

Feel free to upload if you wish.  fwiw, although uploads for 5.0.9
officially close over the weekend, I'd be minded to make an exception
for a tzdata upload if it could made as early in the week as reasonably
possible.

Regards,

Adam


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-18 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 06:57:01PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 16:40 +0200, Youssef Eldakar wrote:
> > On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:
> [Russian law changes on October 30th]
> > > For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
> > > the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
> > > before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
> > > may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
> > > incorporate any further changes.
> > 
> > Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze 
> > installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth 
> > reconsidering.
> 
> If it's broken for more than four months now, why has nobody mentioned
> the issue before?
> 
> tzdata maintainers - any thoughts here?  I know Aurelien mentioned that
> there was probably another update for lenny/squeeze appearing before the
> point releases in any case, but I'm not sure what the status is there.
> 

On my side can only confirm that upgrading from 2011d to 2011h indeed
changes the Egyptian timezone. So maybe we can simply push it to
proposed-updates. 

About further updates for lenny/squeeze, we are in the period where 
governments like to do this kind of change, so it's difficult to predict
what is going to happen. 

Anyway for the current status, 2011h is in s-p-u, while sid has 2011j,
bringing DST changes for Samoa, New Foundland and creating a South
Soudan entry. 2011k is going to be released on September 26th, bringing 
changes to Palestine and Belarus. So it looks like we can already upload
2011i for Lenny, and push 2011j to volatile just after. For Squeeze we 
can go directly to 2011j. Can I already start with the upload to
o-s-p-u or should I open a bug for that?

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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-18 Thread Youssef Eldakar

On 09/17/2011 07:57 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 16:40 +0200, Youssef Eldakar wrote:

>  On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:

>  >  On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:

[Russian law changes on October 30th]

>  >  For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
>  >  the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
>  >  before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
>  >  may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
>  >  incorporate any further changes.

>
>  Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze
>  installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth
>  reconsidering.

If it's broken for more than four months now, why has nobody mentioned
the issue before?


I myself was using Ubuntu - which had the updated tzdata package - and 
was recently considering switching a group of hosts to Debian when I ran 
into the issue.


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Re: Bug#637664: Re: Bug#637664: pu: package tzdata/2011h-0squeeze1

2011-09-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 16:40 +0200, Youssef Eldakar wrote:
> On 01/-10/-28163 09:59 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:23 +0400, Eugene Barbashin wrote:
[Russian law changes on October 30th]
> > For the record, after some discussion with the maintainers on IRC and as
> > the next point releases for both stable and oldstable are due to occur
> > before mid-October, we've decided not to push an update earlier.  There
> > may be an update to either package before the point release in order to
> > incorporate any further changes.
> 
> Well, in Egypt, as of the last Friday of April 2011, a Squeeze 
> installation has incorrect time. I believe pushing an update is worth 
> reconsidering.

If it's broken for more than four months now, why has nobody mentioned
the issue before?

tzdata maintainers - any thoughts here?  I know Aurelien mentioned that
there was probably another update for lenny/squeeze appearing before the
point releases in any case, but I'm not sure what the status is there.

Regards,

Adam


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