Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 09:31:46AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Samuel Thibault, le sam. 13 avril 2019 00:11:15 +0200, a ecrit:
> > Joerg Jaspert, le ven. 12 avril 2019 23:30:31 +0200, a ecrit:
> > > It seems to exist there, so probably someone who can upload there and
> > > is interested in hurd-i386 goes and uploads stuff.
> > Within a two-week timeframe only?
> (while everybody is supposed to be busy fixing RC bugs)

would 6 weeks work be better for you? I can see how the ftpteam doesnt want
to delay this *after* the Buster release, but maybe they can agree on
giving you a bit more time, so you can a.) still do the move and b.) not
neglect polishing buster for https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility


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Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:35:54AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> A minority? Yes. But a sizable one.
 
It doesn't matter how many people use it, if noone is willing to maintain
it. *If* people are maintaining it, it also doesnt matter how many people
are using it :)

*Someone* needs to do the work. We are all volunteers. Be the change you
want to see in the world. 


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Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-13 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that
> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core?
> 
> The latter.  systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and has
> RC bugs.   sysvinit currently has two maintainers, but they've only
> ever made one upload (over a year ago).

It seems that these facts are either largely ignored or unknown and I
wonder if some noise should be made so that interested people can pick
up the work now and not only complain later.



Please reply to debian-devel@lists.d.o if you have to, but probably
replying to those RC bugs is more effective. Also please avoid cc:ing me.


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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-05 Thread Holger Levsen
thanks to everyone explaining arch:any to me :)

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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 01:26:39PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> ppc64:
> 
> This architecture is basically on par with the release architectures. We have 
> over
> 11.000 packages installed
[...]
> sparc64:
> We are close to 11.000 installed packages. 

I'm not sure whether you are talking about source or binary packages but
sid/amd64 has over 24000 source packages and over 5 binary packages,
so I would call the above "on par". Or what am I missing?


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Bug#824834: outdated info on www: Debian GNU/hurd probably not planned for wheezy anymore…

2016-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
package: www.debian.org
x-debbugs-cc: debian-hurd@lists.debian.org

Hi,

https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/ contains the following:

"We hope to be able to release Debian GNU/Hurd for wheezy."

As you might be aware, wheezy has been released and so has jessie, so
you might want to update the text on this page :-)


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Re: Failure: g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/78

2014-11-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 21. November 2014, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 I'm fixing it by uploading a build of perl without the couple of failing
 tests.
 
 Thanks Holger and Gabriele for having worked on this, it is indeed very
 useful to quickly catch installability issues.

nice! :-)

thanks for the feedback! (+happy to add more tests...)


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steven,

On Donnerstag, 13. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 I think we're missing some data from the end of the serial.log;
 probably due to some buffering, and qemu being sent SIGKILL.
 
 Please consider this change to use SIGINT for up to 10 seconds,
 then SIGKILL only if it's still running after that:
 https://git.steven.hosting.pyro.eu.org/jenkins.debian.net.git/?h=894584fca2
 66789c8f40b4c0cad60b7909385523

did you make this never returns false? The script will immidiatly end in that 
case, iirc...


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Freitag, 14. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 Are you thinking of -e (exit on error)?

yes

 g-i-installation.sh doesn't
 seem to run in that mode, actually it ignores some failing commands
 already during cleanup steps.

yes, but during cleanup +e is explicitly set, I think.

Oh, well, I suppose I should either merge and see how it fails or read the 
code myself before merging... ;-)


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Holger




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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steven,

On Freitag, 14. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 Aha yes it does set +e inside that function.  But code before and
 after it does ignore + have to handle fatal errors itself.
 
 The code I added shouldn't return false, except maybe a race between
 'ps' and 'kill' (if the process goes away in that time);  but seems
 unlikely with the 'sleep 1' after each iteration.

ok, cool, thanks for checking!

+merged+pushed+deployed+job triggered :)


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Holger


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steven,

On Freitag, 14. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 After I started at the error message long enough, it finally hit me,
 and it's kind of amusing.  If you could please fix my silly mistake:

hehe, I know that feeling... :-)

merged + triggered etc.. - thanks!


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Holger


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Re: tasksel desktop preseed issues (was: Re: Failure: g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/71)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 14. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 Firstly could someone please tell me what display manager this is?
 https://jenkins.debian.net/view/g-i-installation/job/g-i-installation_debia
 n_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/70/artifact/results//snapshot_008244.png

xdm


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Re: tasksel desktop preseed issues (was: Re: Failure: g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_hurd_lxde/71)

2014-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Samstag, 15. November 2014, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 See the preseed file: we force the use of xdm, I guess because lightdm
 doesn't work yet.

do git blame on that line, it's an ancient choice... probably better now to 
not force any specific dm and just choose a de.


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 12. November 2014, Samuel Thibault wrote:
  Maybe hurd also could redirect syslog there to help debug the issue
  you're seeing.
 Indeed.

actually, all installs can probably benefit from this :)
 
 There is: console=com0, it'd only redirect the kernel messages though
 (which can however be useful to get the out of the vga console output,
 and in a safe place)
[...]
 Yes, it'd be com0 for GNU/Hurd.

patches, please.


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 12. November 2014, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
 Holger Levsen wrote:
  in the video there is no IP address to be seen. em0 gets a link, but
  thats all.
 Later 'network autoconfiguration succeeded', so DHCP probably worked;
 the IP address isn't usually mentioned within the GUI installer, but
 the d-i syslog will probably explain what the problem is.

ok, cool.
 
 Okay I've tried to log serial console output as an artifact, if you
 could pull again please:
 https://git.steven.hosting.pyro.eu.org/jenkins.debian.net.git/?h=adc905d26d
 93381495a47ece2259207009f0da5e

merged+pushed, thanks.
 
Will trigger new builds once jenkins.d.n is up again, there are currently some 
disturbances in the cloud...


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Holger


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Re: jenkins kfreebsd jobs (Re: Plan B for kfreebsd)

2014-11-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

https://jenkins.debian.net/view/g-i-installation/job/g-i-installation_debian_sid_daily_kfreebsd/432/artifact/results/serial.log
is there now and it shows how the right IP is received. I don't understand why 
getting the preseed file then fails...


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Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info)

2013-10-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2013, Stewart Smith wrote:
 Jenkins can have slaves on remote hosts, via SSH. It runs a small java
 app there, so as long as the arch has a JVM then you're pretty right.

that JVM is not even needed, just schedule jobs via ssh and be done.


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Re: Architecture qualification

2012-06-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 4. Juni 2012, Svante Signell wrote:
 One issue is how to encourage more people trying Hurd out, when it is
 not in testing.

I honestly don't think that's the main blocker trying out hurd. Lack of SATA, 
and USB support are the blocker, I think. And probably also missing meaningful 
graphics output puts many people off. Having SATA (or whatever feature) in 
the works is also meaningless, as hurd is in the works for years.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Architecture qualification

2012-06-04 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 4. Juni 2012, Svante Signell wrote:
 Do you mean gnome3 and KDE4/5 here, or maybe DRM?

DRM
 
 No, this time the work is based on the DDE framework, recently
 successfully implemented for network drivers. Ask Samuel Thibault for
 more details if interested, he is the person in charge. BTW: USB support
 might also be possible within the DDE framework.

show me the code in unstable aka sid, please... (or exp. is fine as well...)


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Re: hurd-i386 qualification for Wheezy

2012-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Samuel,

On Samstag, 19. Mai 2012, Samuel Thibault wrote:
   Concerning hardware support, Linux 2.6.32 network drivers are now
   included and will be used by default in the coming days. That provides
   a fairly good coverage of not too-new hardware. We are working on
   integrating the linux AHCI driver to support SATA HDDs. Concerning
   X.org, drivers which do not require drm should be working. At worse,
   the vesa driver should work. There is no USB support, no sound
   support.
  On a (very) personal note, the apparent lack of HW support is making it
  look very bad…
 Which lack, more precisely?

no usb = no keyboard (+other things, obviously)
no sata = pretty bad in 2012
no drm xorg drivers + no sound = also pretty bad.


cheers,
Holger, I am excited to see the hurd come alive, finally! but... 


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