Re: Debian IA-64

2012-07-02 Thread MG

Hello,


On 28-6-2012 23:52, Émeric Maschino wrote:

Yes, I'm running the McKinley kernel.


So was I the other day, in a HPVM guest.  I also downloaded an
archived Debian V5.0.9 installation DVD.  It installed just
fine.  From there, I intend to 'upgrade' to V6.0.5, also with
DVDs.  Although, before I do that, I'm going to try to install
the HPVM Linux guest AVIO ethernet driver and I'll see how that
goes.

A while back, I hope the person has been reading the mailing
list (or Usenet) in the meantime, I was approached if I could
try Allegro.  I think I can simply provide a HPVM Debian
Linux IA-64 guest, instead.



I didn't got my zx6000 with so much memory. I had the
opportunity to max it out at a very good price


Good to hear, same here by the way!  PC2100 ECC-registered
DIMMs can, still, be quite expensive.  (Even more so than
DDR2, DDR3 and so forth, amazingly.)



This may be a track to follow. I don't have a MP card in my
zx6000 and seem to experience less issues than you ;-)


That was quite common, that the zx6000 didn't have the iLO/
MP card.  I'm not sure if I feel much for taking mine out,
especially as I've grown rather attached to iLO.



I should add that, since the switch to Mesa 8.0, 3D hardware
acceleration is once again badly broken :-(


I'll try AGP in one of my rx2620s again, just to be totally sure.
I'm going to write this down and look into it.



While simple GL applications like glxgears run flawlessly, Quake
III demo freezes the system within seconds, monitor enters in
sleep mode and a hard reset finally occurs. With orphan inodes
deleted at next boot...


Did you already manage to track down, from logs or so, what may
have caused this?



Yes, my Windows install is up to date (support was killed in 2004
IIRC), though the 16GB limit is still there.


No, actually, I meant Windows Server 2003 Service Packs!  You can,
with a trick, actually install those.  Windows XP IA-64 becomes a
lot more usable then!  This is the Debian IA-64 list, maybe you
should e-mail me privately for more information.



There is such a website: The Gelato Community --- Linux on Itanium
(http://www.gelato.org) but it seems unmaintained nowadays and the
old forums have disappeared. I remember some interesting discussions
there with David Mosberger or Bjorn Helgaas, circa 2007...


I came across that site already a year, maybe two by now, ago.  Back
then it was already rather dead.

Debian Linux IA-64 isn't, though and I'll try to do my best to keep
it that way.

By the way, if you're --- or anyone else is --- interested to see
what Debian V5.0.9 looks like running on Montecito inside a HPVM
guest, please let me know and I'll create a SSH shell account for
you.  (Or any other operating system, if you'd like to see those.)



Kind regards,

Marco


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Re: Debian IA-64

2012-06-28 Thread Émeric Maschino
Hello,

2012/6/25 MG marc...@xs4all.nl:
 I'm running Debian on a 2003 hp workstation zx6000 with two
 1.5GHz McKinley CPUs

 Those are Madison processors actually, but I assume you
 run the McKinley kernel?

Yes, I'm running the McKinley kernel.

 24GB RAM, three stock 15000rpm SCSI U320 73GB HDDs and
 stock ATI FireGL X1 256MB AGP Pro graphics adapter.

 Nice, did you recently upgrade the memory?  These are great
 systems, it's a shame that Linux isn't optimal in its
 current shape and we definitely need to change that!

I didn't got my zx6000 with so much memory. I had the opportunity to
max it out at a very good price, so yes, I updated it, but not
recently. Maybe two years ago?

 I recently also got the advice from an (ex-?)Gentoo developer
 that it's best, or recommended actually, to *remove*(!) the
 iLO/MP card (with the Radeon 7000 on-board), for the obvious
 EFI-inadequate reasons...  I may just try that and see if I
 get more luck.  Just to see if DRM/DRI, or any other worth-
 while progress in terms of getting a good, solid, up-to-date
 Linux IA-64 environment up and running.  From there on I can
 slowly start experimenting with combinations of iLO/MP cards
 included and excluded, per different graphics adapter
 combination.  I'll also start documenting my steps more.

This may be a track to follow. I don't have a MP card in my zx6000 and
seem to experience less issues than you ;-)

 3D hardware acceleration (through r300g driver) can be rock stable
 nowadays... or not at all. That is, the exact same binary (e.g.
 Quake III) can run flawlessly for hours or randomly triggers high
 CPU usage within minutes or seconds (with lot of IB schedule error
 messages recorded in the logs), leaving system barely usable.

I should add that, since the switch to Mesa 8.0, 3D hardware
acceleration is once again badly broken :-(

While simple GL applications like glxgears run flawlessly, Quake III
demo freezes the system within seconds, monitor enters in sleep mode
and a hard reset finally occurs. With orphan inodes deleted at next
boot...

 By the way, unrelated (to the subject at hand), but purely out of
 curiosity: Did you manage to install the SPs for XP IA-64?  That
 might be rather worthwhile for you, with your maxed out memory.
 (Else I think there's a memory limit of 16 Gbytes.)

Yes, my Windows install is up to date (support was killed in 2004
IIRC), though the 16GB limit is still there.

 Your dedication is very much appreciated!  Maybe we should set up a
 site like LinuxAlpha has, or rather its Wiki section.  Have you ever
 seen it?  I really love the sense of community there.  Especially the
 parts where people, those involved, share which systems they have and
 so forth.  I think this may do wonders for Linux IA-64, so that people
 out there see that there are people running Linux, or making attempts
 thereto, and proudly so.  (I'm not sure if I brought this up before.)

There is such a website: The Gelato Community --- Linux on Itanium
(http://www.gelato.org) but it seems unmaintained nowadays and the old
forums have disappeared. I remember some interesting discussions there
with David Mosberger or Bjorn Helgaas, circa 2007...

 Emeric


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Re: Debian IA-64 - Build Package

2004-06-03 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 09:00:02PM -0400, RIBSNet wrote:
I have owned an HP i2000 ( Intel Itaninum dual 800 mhz) for
months, the seller had stripped the acompaning software, to only
parts of the HP-UX system, only the MS-XP-64-bit video driver cd,
and a hand full of papers.   IT's still not running, I bought
and tried Debian, and MS-XP-64bit.

This is an old system, but we run Debian on them here quite
successfully.  If you want to post your specific problems to this list
I'm sure someone can help.

-i