Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:48:02PM -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: I'm a long time Red Hat user. Basically the company I'm working for is currently using Red Hat but for some reason they're considering switching to Debian. I personally don't have any experience with Debian abd honestly I'm open to anything but I was hoping for some positive feedback from people who have used both Red Hat and Debian. My main interests are: Dpkg vs RPM Both managability and build packages. I have heard a lot of good things about dpkg. as others have said dpkg/apt to RPM is to GNU/Linux to DOS. Customization of the distro We do a lot of customization to our distro. Can this easily be done with debian? much easier then redhat! unlike redhat your config files are never overwritten and /usr/local is never touched by the package system (except some directories are created there) you can also make your own .debs if you wish. Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a lot of mass installs. nobody has mentioned this trick yet so i will, it works very well for both replication and restoration after disaster (*cough* kernel 2.2.13 *cough*) install the base system, run dselect/tasksel to get the packages you want installed, once that is done run: dpkg --get-selections \* selections.master then on your next machine install the base system (easy) and once that is done instead of running tasksel/dselect again run: dpkg --set-selections selections.master then run dselect update and install but not select. you get the exact same set of package installed. its not quite unattended and automatic but it does pretty much what kickstart does: saves you from selecting all the packages you want over and over again for each machine. once you have used debian you will never touch a redhat system again. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpxZxE12Zcbq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
[i've removed the cc's to -user and -dpkg] I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date (which they're generally not). Actually, unstable is usually pretty close to up-to-date. I know (of) quite a few people who run unstable on their production boxes; they just do a little bit of in-house testing first. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| --
Getting squid to ignore cached sites
We have a series proxys caching our internal website (around 11 pops / proxys ) all running cisco routers so we can use transparent proxying in each location. We when make the changes at the main location it can sometimes take up to 3 days for the changes to filter through to the others pops. Is there was a way to force squid to get from source and not from proxy? Any ideas ??? Help appreciated. Thanks.
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:43:20PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: At 07:29 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a lot of mass installs. For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, and copy over the OS. Or you could even make a disk image and dd it onto the hard drive. That assumes you have the same hard drive in all the machines. You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :) But even if you have 4 or 5 different hard drives in your organization, using disk images will still save you tons of time. even better, you can make a tar.gz image of your standard install, stick it on an nfs server and then create a boot floppy with nfs support. when building a new box, boot with the floppy, partition the disk (scriptable using sfdisk), mount the nfs drive, untar the archive, and then run a script which customises whatever needs to be customised (e.g. hostname, IP address, etc). then run lilo to make it bootable from the hard disk. alternatively, put it on a CD-ROM and make that CD bootable - just insert the CD and reboot for a fully-automated install. say 10 meg or so for boot kernel utilities, leaves you up to around 640MB of compressed tar.gz containing your standard install file-system image. btw, this tar.gz idea is how the debian base system is installed on a machine in the first place. the only significant difference is that you're installing your own tar.gz system image rather than the standard base.tar.gz. automating debian installs is pretty easy - IF you have a good understanding of how debian works. craig -- craig sanders
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 08:44:18PM -0700, David Lynn wrote: I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only major drawback I've found to Debian. depends if you use stable or unstable. if you use stable, then many packages will be old versions. if you use unstable, then most packages will be the latest up-to-date versions. craig -- craig sanders
What tape drive backup tool ?
Hi all, I'm about to set up a Dell 1300 server and I'm wondering what tape drive should I buy for backup purpose. Suggestions from their e-commerce site are DAT 20/40 with autoloader, DLT 4000 20/40 or DLT 7000 35/70. Does anybody know if those are supported/any good ? Any success stories about a backup admin tool to use on top of that ? Thanks -- Eric
Re: LDAP on debian
Debian is using LDAP to authenticate users but I couldnt realize how it's done. apt-get install pam-ldap, or sth like that, and then switch to ldap authentication using /etc/pam.d/* files.. i tried it, it works like a charm. it even supports md5 hashing, and i like it. How to add/remove entries in the database? I used command-line utilities and Gentelmans Interface to LDAP
Re: mail server w/ 65000++ users
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Mark Brown wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 12:28:40PM +0200, Robert Varga wrote: Its documentation is a joke I think. It is 800 pages, but unusable for anything but reading it from the start, but if you want to search in it quickly and haven't read it before, because you just want to put in something, then it is unusable. Depends on what you're after in terms of documentation, of course - I always found it quite nice when I used Exim. It's also worth looking at the FAQ which is more oriented towards I'd like to... when you don't know the sort of Exim feature you'd use. It fulfils a lot of the roles of a tutorial-type section in the manual. I told what I told from my experience. I tried to set up virtual users and virtual domains, looked at the FAQ, and did not know where to put in the config file, what I found there. It's simply unusable this way, or at least it was that a year ago when I tried it. Even sendmail documentation is better than that, at least I managed to do it with sendmail which I put up instead of exim then. After that, I looked at qmail, and now I don't install anything else on any machine I install. Speed: much slower than qmail. It's not that bad - from my memories of both Exim and qmail I think that qmail has some much more aggressive defaults than Exim. I could be wrong on that, but it's certainly possible to push a good load through Exim. You should try a stress test. :) Robert
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:28:54PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 10:43:20PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: At 07:29 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: Autoinstall (Red Hat's kickstart) This is also something fairly important. We need this as we do a lot of mass installs. For mass installs, just make a standard issue CD, boot from that CD, and copy over the OS. Or you could even make a disk image and dd it onto the hard drive. That assumes you have the same hard drive in all the machines. You can turn a 20GB drive into a 10GB drive. :) But even if you have 4 or 5 different hard drives in your organization, using disk images will still save you tons of time. even better, you can make a tar.gz image of your standard install, stick it on an nfs server and then create a boot floppy with nfs support. when building a new box, boot with the floppy, partition the disk (scriptable using sfdisk), mount the nfs drive, untar the archive, and then run a script which customises whatever needs to be customised (e.g. hostname, IP address, etc). then run lilo to make it bootable from the hard disk. This is what I did at BNL for maintaining the 'black wall' of 150 VALinux boxes. I built 1 box like I wanted, and made a tarball of it and put it out on a NFS server. Then I created a kernel with nfsroot and bootp support. As long as I know the MAC of the NIC in the maachine, you can boot, get all the network stuff assigned by the bootp server, and it nfs mounts a small root partition with a hacked up rcS script. This script partitions the disk using sfdisk, formats the partitions, mounts them, then nfs mounts the old image, untars it, then fiddles with the config files, runs lilo, and reboots. On the 350MB install, this takes about 5 minutes for the whole procedure. Now, with the bootp kernel, we never have to touch the machines again. If we update the image, we run a command on each box via ssh that copies the bootp kernel over the normal one, runs lilo, and reboots, and the whole thing runs by itself. We only have to touch the machine 1 time, to get it to boot off the floppy for the initial install. Tim -- Tim Sailer (at home) Coastal Internet, Inc. Network and Systems Operations PO Box 671 http://www.buoy.comRidge, NY 11961 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED](631) 476-3031
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Previously Chris Wagner wrote: RPM is a piece of crap compared to dpkg, and now we have apt (advanced package tool). Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm is not a piece of crap. Wichert. -- _ / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | pgpzJE1vjivNu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Transfer data between two comps without network
Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak
RE: Transfer data between two comps without network
what about a Sony AIT tape drive. Kind of expensive. Not sure about the linux support. We have two of them and they are great and fast. Ben MCSE, CNA -Original Message- From: Dariush Pietrzak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:38 AM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Transfer data between two comps without network Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
| Welcome, | my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) | daily. | And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. Umm...how about encrypting it prior to sending it across the network. I've used schemes such as piping data across an SSH process to achieve this without having to encrypt the files on disk. In fact, that's how our Amanda backup installation backs up all of our remote production servers. Another thought, go out and buy yourself a couple of Lucent/Wavelan ORINOCO Gold wireless ethernet cards. They'll do 128-bit encryption between the two cards. Just my $.02. Dave Dave Brookshire Vice President of Information Technology Magnet Interactive Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 (202) 471-5806 voice +1 (202) 471-5807 fax | I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the | best way to do that: | i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module | and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module | then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. | That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have | to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation | is unacceptable. | | Does anyone have any suggestions on this? | (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's | what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they | B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow )
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
--- David Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only major drawback I've found to Debian. --d been using Debian since hamm was released and im still madly inlove w/ it :-) (my other distros b4 were slackware 32 and redhat 4 (just tried it for 2 weeks)) my only dissapointment is not on debian itself but on most software vendors who think linux==redhat ... take chilisoft asp for example, their app is available only for redhat and building it on a non-redhat system is really tiresome ... another example is webtrends (but hey, analog+rmagic kiss a$$) my 2 centavos chad __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 19:29:39 -0400, Jeremy Hansen wrote: Dpkg vs RPM Both managability and build packages. I have heard a lot of good things about dpkg. Have a look at http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/ for a detailed overview by Joey Hess of various package management formats. Customization of the distro We do a lot of customization to our distro. Can this easily be done with debian? Sure. And if you think your customisations may make sense for others as well, don't forget that Debian is developed in an open fashion, so you may want to submit patches to the package maintainers, or perhaps even volunteer to maintain some packages yourself. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: LDAP on debian
Hi P.S. Does anyone know if there is there something wrong with the default configuration of OpenLDAP in potato? I cannot connect to my server with any of the command line (or other) tools. After a long time fiddling around I've finally managed to get it running. As far as I can tell now there was no error in the config. You've just the problem that you're standing before it and have no clue what you should do, can do or even what you actually want... :-) We're using it now for RADIUS authentification and I personally for saving my bookmarks in a Roaming account that Netscape reads automatically. If you have questions just ask. bye, -christian- -- Linux - the choice of the GNU generation. Join the Debian Project http://www.debian.org Christian Hammers * Oberer Heidweg 35 * D-52477 Alsdorf * Tel: 02404-25624 50 3C 52 26 3E 52 E7 20 D2 A1 F5 16 C4 C9 D4 D3 1024/925BCB55 1997/11/01
Re: LDAP on debian
** On May 16, Christian Hammers scribbled:
Hi
P.S. Does anyone know if there is there something wrong with the default
configuration of OpenLDAP in potato? I cannot connect to my server with
any of the command line (or other) tools.
After a long time fiddling around I've finally managed to get it running.
As far as I can tell now there was no error in the config.
There isn't indeed. The most probable cause is that the access is blocked in
/etc/hosts.{allow,deny} - you have to allow access to the slapd service.
Increase the loglevel in /etc/openldap/slapd.conf (set it to 8) and you'll
see in the logs what's wrong.
marek
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Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
| my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) | daily. | And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. Umm...how about encrypting it prior to sending it across the network. I've used schemes such as piping data across an SSH process to achieve this without having to encrypt the files on disk. In fact, that's how our Amanda backup installation backs up all of our remote production servers. That should work, and if the client and server machines are fast enough (say PentiumIII-700) and it's switched full-duplex 100baseT then it should be possible to do the transfer in 1-2 hours. Of course if you have to transfer 50G of data between machines daily then you probably have some type of design problem anyway. Another thought, go out and buy yourself a couple of Lucent/Wavelan ORINOCO Gold wireless ethernet cards. They'll do 128-bit encryption between the two cards. Isn't Wavelan 2Mb == 256KB? This means 20 to 50 hours transfer time per day. This makes it unworkable. Also Wavelan emulates regular Ethernet, so the usual IP spoofing tricks will work. If the data is too secret for regular Ethernet then Wavelan is no good. Russell Coker
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
I agree, rpm is not a piece of crap. deb packages are a lot harder to create for the novice users. There is not much documentation to help in this area either. Also, when updates are released .debs are usually the last to be released (because someone usually has to hack an .rpm or something similar) When security is an issue, .rpms are usually quicker to be released and thus should never be discounted. It is fast becoming the standard package system in the industry. Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Chris Wagner wrote: RPM is a piece of crap compared to dpkg, and now we have apt (advanced package tool). Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm is not a piece of crap. Wichert. -- _ / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | --- Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
I have to disagree there. I've found Debian packs to be extremely up to date, atleast on the security end. And even on routine maintanance, the lag is not that bad. At 08:44 PM 5/16/00 -0700, David Lynn wrote: I agree - dpkg and apt are great compared to rpm's. However, that's all assuming that there are debian packages out there that are up to date (which they're generally not). But this seems to be the only major drawback I've found to Debian. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=| | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax | |=-- http://www.Keyes2000.com. --=| ++
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
The only real difference between stable and unstable is that unstable has up to date packages. The only thing stable has over unstable is the track history of yeah all this stuff has worked together for a LONG time. At 12:16 AM 5/17/00 -0400, Will Lowe wrote: Actually, unstable is usually pretty close to up-to-date. I know (of) quite a few people who run unstable on their production boxes; they just do a little bit of in-house testing first. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=| | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax | |=-- http://www.Keyes2000.com. --=| ++
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Sorry, but I was so underwhelmed by rpm's capabilities and my reaction was so one sidedly negative that I can't describe it any other way. It is what I typed. At 02:55 PM 5/17/00 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Chris Wagner wrote: RPM is a piece of crap compared to dpkg, and now we have apt (advanced package tool). Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm is not a piece of crap. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=| | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax | |=-- http://www.Keyes2000.com. --=| ++
Re: What tape drive backup tool ?
I used a standard low cost IDE HP Travan tape drive using TR4 cartridges and it worked fine. Though every once and a while it would complain and I'ld have to take the tape out an put it back in. For non-insane applications this would be adequate. A simple tar script run out of cron kept me alive. At 10:24 AM 5/17/00 +, Eric Ravelomanantsoa wrote: I'm about to set up a Dell 1300 server and I'm wondering what tape drive should I buy for backup purpose. Suggestions from their e-commerce site are DAT 20/40 with autoloader, DLT 4000 20/40 or DLT 7000 35/70. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=| | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax | |=-- http://www.Keyes2000.com. --=| ++
Transparent proxy question.
Have setup transparent proxy using an access-list on a Cisco 1603 and running ipchains to forward packets to squid on the proxy. When I have the proxy set ( manual http proxy ) it works fine, but when proxy is disable and transparent should take affect this is what happends: Packet gets forwarded from cisco to proxy machine packet gets sent to squid but on the my browser i get a squid error saying that: the url :/ cannout be found please check the url and make sure no illegal characters are being used. Has anyone got any clues? any help appreciated! Nathan
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
Folks, I have used dpkg, and been forced to use rpm, and rpm is just as good, more or less. The problem is that there is nothing equivalent to dselect or apt in RedHat. I rarely call dpkg directly, unless libc6 is stuck again ;-), but the nearest that RedHat has to a mid-level tool is GnoRPM, which wants gnome, which wants X, which is moving in the wrong direction for my firewall/mail server. -- Ghane - Original Message - From: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can we please not be so negative about rpm? I'll agree that dpkg is better (and of course I'm completely not biased here :), but rpm is not a piece of crap. Wichert.
Logging a POP3 session
hi, we have a client who is claiming he's not receiving all his email. people are apparently sending him messages and he's not receiving it. oh, and his PA is reading his mail as well, but she 'swears she never deletes anything' I've checked the exim logs and all the mail is delivered to his mailbox. (I got the details of the missing messages and checked) but I can't prove there's not something wrong with the POP server. is there any way to log a POP3 session? I've checked www.spack.org/debian and freshmeat.net for POP3 servers (currently using qpopper) and none of them seem to offer this feature (not that I'm suprised, mind you) can anyone think of a way of proving that the mail is definitely getting to his mail reader? system: Debian 2.1 exim 2.05-2 qpopper 2.3-4 thanks, Daniel Quinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netwise Australia ph: 07 3252 8111 Engineering Your Network Solution fax: 07 3216 0226
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
Dariush, Assuming you are worried by people with promiscuous ethernet cards, packet-sniffing. Put in a second NIC, run a crossover UTP? I assume the machine's are close by. Hotswapping a hard disk seems risky, if you do it daily. On the other hand, if you are not CPU constrained, run PPTP or some such encrypted encapsulation on the main network, between the two machines. If none of the machines can be allowed on _any_ network at all, you could probably try PLIP, to demonstrate that it really is non-tappable. I don't think PLIP will take kindly to 50G a day, though. You did say 50G, not 50M, right ;-) HTH - Original Message - From: Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Transfer data between two comps without network Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging a POP3 session
At 02:11 AM 5/18/00 GMT, Daniel Quinlan wrote: system: Debian 2.1 exim 2.05-2 qpopper 2.3-4 CuCiPOP tells you how many messages were downloaded by default. :) If that log says 10 messages were pulled, then HE DID download 10 messages. If that number syncs up with what exim says it delivered to his mailbox well then somebody's lying or is an idiot. Cucipop is a drop in replacement for qpopper. That's the path I took. +---+ |-=I T ' S P R I N C I P L E T H A T C O U N T S=- | |=- -=ALAN KEYES FOR PRESIDENT=- -=| | Balanced Budgets Personal Freedoms Morality Lower Tax | |=-- http://www.Keyes2000.com. --=| ++
Re: Transfer data between two comps without network
Have you looked at the swappable disks broadcasters use? - Original Message - From: Dariush Pietrzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 9:37 PM Subject: Transfer data between two comps without network Welcome, my problem is that I have to transfer large amount of data (20~50 Gigs) daily. And it can't be done via network due to 'secret' nature of that data. I considered IDE disk put in hot-swap bay, but I found that's not the best way to do that: i got system on scsi disc, compiled ide-disk support as module and when I want to remove ide-disc i unmount it, rmmod the module then swap the discs, modprobe ide-disk, mount it. That scheme works ... but sometimes it fails.. and when it fails I have to reboot the system to be able to mount ide disc. that situation is unacceptable. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? (data should be moved via some physical way, not using network as that's what bossess fear the most, zip drives could be nice, but they B are too small, streamers seems to be to slow ) regards, Dariush Pietrzak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher F. Miller, Publisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] MaineStreet Communications, Inc 208 Portland Road, Gray, ME 04039 1.207.657.5078 http://www.maine.com/ Database publishing, e-commerce, office/internet integration, Debian linux.
Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.
According to Sanjeev Ghane Gupta: I have used dpkg, and been forced to use rpm, and rpm is just as good, more or less. Actually, from what I've been told, rpm has at least one serious technical flaw: The order of execution for pre-install and post-install scripts is nonsensical for upgrades. I leave further explanation to the experts ... assuming they can be trolled^Wenticed into answering. -- Chip Salzenberg - a.k.a. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wanted to play hopscotch with the impenetrable mystery of existence, but he stepped in a wormhole and had to go in early. // MST3K
