Re: (no subject)

2000-08-28 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Chea,

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Chea Prince wrote:

> i've tried unsubscribing via debian-isp-request (and received an
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> noel.pd.org, so could be it shows up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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(no subject)

2000-08-28 Thread Chea Prince
i've tried unsubscribing via debian-isp-request (and received an
unsubscribe confirmation)...still i'm receiving mail.  i've written to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and been ignored.  now i'm asking
politely...please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this mailing list.  FQDN is
noel.pd.org, so could be it shows up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sorry for writing to the list but have gotten nowhere trying to properly
unsubscribe.

thank you
-c-




Re: Mail problems

2000-08-28 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, ridgey wrote:

> We had a problem with a name record that other day that failed it to load
> thus causing some email problems.  Since then ( around 2 days ago now ) we
> fixed the name record and made sure it loaded without errors, updated serial
> # etc.   Now we have these SMTP data timeouts all through the logs, I
> understand it will take some time for the the correct name record to filter
> back trhough but 2 days??? some mail from outside hosts is getting in and
> delivered but around 70% is not.   Any help ideas appreciated.

You didn't tell us what the TTL (time to live) is. You may need to be
patient.

> 2000-08-29 17:56:16 13TgAt-0005a2-00 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned)
> on co
> nnection from popclient-02.iinet.net.au (celtic.iinet.net.au)
> [203.59.24.202]

I almost missed your logs -- it was way below your signature.

I don't think this "SMTP data timeout" is now DNS related. You should
start looking at your mail server configs. If using Exim, you may want to
try using the Exim directive.
smtp_receive_timeout = 20m
 -or-
smtp_receive_timeout = 1h

  Jeremy C. Reed

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Re: (no subject)

2000-08-28 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

Chea,

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Chea Prince wrote:

> i've tried unsubscribing via debian-isp-request (and received an
> unsubscribe confirmation)...still i'm receiving mail.  i've written to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and been ignored.  now i'm asking
> politely...please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this mailing list.  FQDN is
> noel.pd.org, so could be it shows up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Instead of just using "unsubscribe" try:

unsubscribe correct-address@correct-domain

using the email you are subscribed as, maybe:

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Mail problems

2000-08-28 Thread ridgey
We had a problem with a name record that other day that failed it to load
thus causing some email problems.  Since then ( around 2 days ago now ) we
fixed the name record and made sure it loaded without errors, updated serial
# etc.   Now we have these SMTP data timeouts all through the logs, I
understand it will take some time for the the correct name record to filter
back trhough but 2 days??? some mail from outside hosts is getting in and
delivered but around 70% is not.   Any help ideas appreciated.

Ridgey.





snip-snip
2000-08-29 17:56:16 13TgAt-0005a2-00 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned)
on co
nnection from popclient-02.iinet.net.au (celtic.iinet.net.au)
[203.59.24.202]
2000-08-29 17:56:17 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned) on connection from
(ch
at9msn3) [202.58.56.140]
2000-08-29 17:56:21 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned) on connection from
mta
02.mail.au.uu.net (mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au) [203.2.192.82]
2000-08-29 17:56:25 13TgFr-0005cN-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=acay.com.au
(hamti
c.acay.com.au) [203.7.132.2] P=esmtp S=10933
id=LOBBLHLBAAADNGOAMDJJGEBKDGAA.joh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




(no subject)

2000-08-28 Thread Chea Prince

i've tried unsubscribing via debian-isp-request (and received an
unsubscribe confirmation)...still i'm receiving mail.  i've written to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and been ignored.  now i'm asking
politely...please remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this mailing list.  FQDN is
noel.pd.org, so could be it shows up as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sorry for writing to the list but have gotten nowhere trying to properly
unsubscribe.

thank you
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Re: Mail problems

2000-08-28 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, ridgey wrote:

> We had a problem with a name record that other day that failed it to load
> thus causing some email problems.  Since then ( around 2 days ago now ) we
> fixed the name record and made sure it loaded without errors, updated serial
> # etc.   Now we have these SMTP data timeouts all through the logs, I
> understand it will take some time for the the correct name record to filter
> back trhough but 2 days??? some mail from outside hosts is getting in and
> delivered but around 70% is not.   Any help ideas appreciated.

You didn't tell us what the TTL (time to live) is. You may need to be
patient.

> 2000-08-29 17:56:16 13TgAt-0005a2-00 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned)
> on co
> nnection from popclient-02.iinet.net.au (celtic.iinet.net.au)
> [203.59.24.202]

I almost missed your logs -- it was way below your signature.

I don't think this "SMTP data timeout" is now DNS related. You should
start looking at your mail server configs. If using Exim, you may want to
try using the Exim directive.
smtp_receive_timeout = 20m
 -or-
smtp_receive_timeout = 1h

  Jeremy C. Reed

 BSD software, documentation, resources, news...
 http://bsd.reedmedia.net/


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Unidentified subject!

2000-08-28 Thread Max Moritz Sievers
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Mail problems

2000-08-28 Thread ridgey

We had a problem with a name record that other day that failed it to load
thus causing some email problems.  Since then ( around 2 days ago now ) we
fixed the name record and made sure it loaded without errors, updated serial
# etc.   Now we have these SMTP data timeouts all through the logs, I
understand it will take some time for the the correct name record to filter
back trhough but 2 days??? some mail from outside hosts is getting in and
delivered but around 70% is not.   Any help ideas appreciated.

Ridgey.





snip-snip
2000-08-29 17:56:16 13TgAt-0005a2-00 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned)
on co
nnection from popclient-02.iinet.net.au (celtic.iinet.net.au)
[203.59.24.202]
2000-08-29 17:56:17 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned) on connection from
(ch
at9msn3) [202.58.56.140]
2000-08-29 17:56:21 SMTP data timeout (message abandoned) on connection from
mta
02.mail.au.uu.net (mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au) [203.2.192.82]
2000-08-29 17:56:25 13TgFr-0005cN-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=acay.com.au
(hamti
c.acay.com.au) [203.7.132.2] P=esmtp S=10933
id=LOBBLHLBAAADNGOAMDJJGEBKDGAA.joh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: motherboard recommendations

2000-08-28 Thread brian moore
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> anyone who can recommend a good motherboard for small to medium sized web
> server would be greatly appreciated.
> I'd like to get boards that have onboard integraed LAN and video.

ASL makes nifty little 1U machines.  See aslab.com for their catalog,
which usually lists specifics such as motherboard maker.

(ASL has some nice toys -- I'm up to 5 of them now :).  The only real
drawback is that they come with Mandrake, but, then even if they came
with Debian I'd format and reinstall to be paranoid.)




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2000-08-28 Thread Max Moritz Sievers

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Re: motherboard recommendations

2000-08-28 Thread Kevin Blackham
Actually, I figured you wanted it in a 1u, since you mentioned the
integrated video.  These will fit.  That's what Akamai has done.  They
sacrifice the dual processor ability, use a slot1 riser card for each cpu
slot and stick the terminator in one, cpu in other, and use some sort of
small ducted-fan style heatsink.  Very compact, rather impressive imho.

-Kevin

On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:53:55AM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> thanks we had used l440gx+'s also.
> just cant get them in 1u cases.
> there is a supermicro dl3 board that looks interesting.
> > I like the Intel Lancewood.  It's got a silly Phoenix bios, but other than
> > that, It's excellent.  It's got a 440GX+, integrated lan/video, two slot 1
> > cpu slots supporting up to 800MHz CuMines.  It's also got an Adaptec 7890
> > onboard u2w/lvd controller.  Normally, I don't like Intel, but this one is 
> > pretty nice at ~$550us.  In fact, Akamai uses it in their servers we have 
> > here in our blue room.  It's a big board too, one corner is cut out for
> > some cramped cases.
> > 
> > This is the only board I know of that has integrated video (cirrus logic).
> > If you're looking for something a little more conservative, I'm not much
> > help.
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> > > anyone who can recommend a good motherboard for small to medium sized web
> > > server would be greatly appreciated.
> > > I'd like to get boards that have onboard integraed LAN and video.
> > > 
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Re: motherboard recommendations

2000-08-28 Thread brian moore

On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> anyone who can recommend a good motherboard for small to medium sized web
> server would be greatly appreciated.
> I'd like to get boards that have onboard integraed LAN and video.

ASL makes nifty little 1U machines.  See aslab.com for their catalog,
which usually lists specifics such as motherboard maker.

(ASL has some nice toys -- I'm up to 5 of them now :).  The only real
drawback is that they come with Mandrake, but, then even if they came
with Debian I'd format and reinstall to be paranoid.)


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Re: motherboard recommendations

2000-08-28 Thread Kevin Blackham

Actually, I figured you wanted it in a 1u, since you mentioned the
integrated video.  These will fit.  That's what Akamai has done.  They
sacrifice the dual processor ability, use a slot1 riser card for each cpu
slot and stick the terminator in one, cpu in other, and use some sort of
small ducted-fan style heatsink.  Very compact, rather impressive imho.

-Kevin

On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 11:53:55AM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> thanks we had used l440gx+'s also.
> just cant get them in 1u cases.
> there is a supermicro dl3 board that looks interesting.
> > I like the Intel Lancewood.  It's got a silly Phoenix bios, but other than
> > that, It's excellent.  It's got a 440GX+, integrated lan/video, two slot 1
> > cpu slots supporting up to 800MHz CuMines.  It's also got an Adaptec 7890
> > onboard u2w/lvd controller.  Normally, I don't like Intel, but this one is 
> > pretty nice at ~$550us.  In fact, Akamai uses it in their servers we have 
> > here in our blue room.  It's a big board too, one corner is cut out for
> > some cramped cases.
> > 
> > This is the only board I know of that has integrated video (cirrus logic).
> > If you're looking for something a little more conservative, I'm not much
> > help.
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Allen Ahoffman wrote:
> > > anyone who can recommend a good motherboard for small to medium sized web
> > > server would be greatly appreciated.
> > > I'd like to get boards that have onboard integraed LAN and video.
> > > 
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Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Art Sackett
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 09:54:21AM +0200, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> 
> It would be a nightmare of races.  Why not just use an already proven
> - albeit not security perfect and sometimes a bit elaborate, but hey,
> that's software :) - solution like PAM?

That was my first inclination, but (perhaps incorrectly) assumed that
there was some reason that the OA didn't want to go that route.

Every now and then, I get the overwhelming compulsion to put one or
both feet into my mouth...

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Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Andrea Glorioso
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 01:28:13AM -0600, Art Sackett wrote:
> Just a thought, might not even work: howzabout defining the user's shell
> (in /etc/passwd) to be a symlink, say, /bin/timelock, then just wiggling
> the symlink twice per day via cron to target either /bin/false or 
> /bin/bash, as appropriate?

It would be a nightmare of races.  Why not just use an already proven
- albeit not security perfect and sometimes a bit elaborate, but hey,
that's software :) - solution like PAM?

Bye,
-- 
Andrea Glorioso sama(at)aglorioso(dot)com
Padua, Italy




Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Art Sackett
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:02:24PM +0800, Erik Peter P. Abella wrote:



> I intend to toggle the user
> shell (/bin/false - /bin/nologin) via the crontab but am still gun-shy
> on
> writing a shell script.

Just a thought, might not even work: howzabout defining the user's shell
(in /etc/passwd) to be a symlink, say, /bin/timelock, then just wiggling
the symlink twice per day via cron to target either /bin/false or 
/bin/bash, as appropriate?

-- 
   Art Sackett   




Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:02:24PM +0800, Erik Peter P. Abella wrote:
> I need to be able to restrict some users from logging-on from 8am-11pm
> daily (a new discounted subscription plan) and I could use some
> suggestions on how to best deal with this. I intend to toggle the user
> shell (/bin/false - /bin/nologin) via the crontab but am still gun-shy
> on writing a shell script.

Look at the section in /etc/pam.d/login that says:

# account requisite pam_time.so

Uncomment it and then modify /etc/secuirty/time.conf as necessary.

I think this is the Right Way (tm) to do it.

Hope this helps,

Luca

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Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Andrea Glorioso
On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:02:24PM +0800, Erik Peter P. Abella wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I need to be able to restrict some users from logging-on from 8am-11pm
> daily (a new discounted subscription plan) and I could use some
> suggestions on how to best deal with this. I intend to toggle the user
> shell (/bin/false - /bin/nologin) via the crontab but am still gun-shy
> on
> writing a shell script.

No need for it, you'd be much better with pam_time and /etc/security/time.conf

Bye,
-- 
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Padua, Italy




how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Erik Peter P. Abella
Hello All,

I need to be able to restrict some users from logging-on from 8am-11pm
daily (a new discounted subscription plan) and I could use some
suggestions on how to best deal with this. I intend to toggle the user
shell (/bin/false - /bin/nologin) via the crontab but am still gun-shy
on
writing a shell script.

Thanks in advance,

Erik




Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Art Sackett

On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 09:54:21AM +0200, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> 
> It would be a nightmare of races.  Why not just use an already proven
> - albeit not security perfect and sometimes a bit elaborate, but hey,
> that's software :) - solution like PAM?

That was my first inclination, but (perhaps incorrectly) assumed that
there was some reason that the OA didn't want to go that route.

Every now and then, I get the overwhelming compulsion to put one or
both feet into my mouth...

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Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Andrea Glorioso

On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 01:28:13AM -0600, Art Sackett wrote:
> Just a thought, might not even work: howzabout defining the user's shell
> (in /etc/passwd) to be a symlink, say, /bin/timelock, then just wiggling
> the symlink twice per day via cron to target either /bin/false or 
> /bin/bash, as appropriate?

It would be a nightmare of races.  Why not just use an already proven
- albeit not security perfect and sometimes a bit elaborate, but hey,
that's software :) - solution like PAM?

Bye,
-- 
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Padua, Italy


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Re: how to restrict user logons

2000-08-28 Thread Art Sackett

On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 03:02:24PM +0800, Erik Peter P. Abella wrote:



> I intend to toggle the user
> shell (/bin/false - /bin/nologin) via the crontab but am still gun-shy
> on
> writing a shell script.

Just a thought, might not even work: howzabout defining the user's shell
(in /etc/passwd) to be a symlink, say, /bin/timelock, then just wiggling
the symlink twice per day via cron to target either /bin/false or 
/bin/bash, as appropriate?

-- 
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