Re: [Fwd: Cron root@ghost test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily]

2001-01-23 Thread Hirling Endre

 Ashby Gochenour wrote:
  Hey Guys,
  I am not sure what this cron log is saying. Can anyone elaborate on this
  log?
 
  /etc/cron.daily/exim:
  deleted T:schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de:130.149.220.3 (too old)

Read your /etc/cron.daily/exim, there must be a line with 'exim_tidydb -t
 ...' in it. Read the Exim manual to find out what exim_tidydb is.

Tech Support wrote:
 There was a message sitting undeliverable in you mail queue for longer then your 
exim.config
 allows so it was deleted during exim's daily housecleaning. The mail was to the 
referenced
 domain. Check your exim/mainlog for details on why it failed to be delivered.

Try to find out what the cron message says pls, before giving wrong answer.

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Re: Exim as a gateway

2001-01-23 Thread Tomasz Papszun

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 at 21:58:13 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, here's the picture. I have a Debian box as the SMTP gateway for
 about 4000 active nodes on a class B network. Many of these machines
 run sendmail, misconfigured, of course. I have MX records for the inside
 machines in the DNS all pointing to the gateway, which is configured to
 deny 3rd party relay. But, since it just forwards to the real machine,
 the relays still happen. Is there any way to stop this at the gateway
 machine?
 

You can block at the border router all outgoing connections to SMTP port
(25) _besides_ these ones which originate from your "legal" SMTP gateway.

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Re: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Tuesday 23 January 2001, at 10 h 26, the keyboard of Michael Boman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 you may ask? Well, what if the
 router/switch/firewall/another-single-point-of-failure between your
 monitoring server and the rest of the network goes down? BB will scream
 that every server/router (etc) you have on the other side is down, while
 NetSaint understands that it's the router/firewall/etc that is down.

mon http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/ does the same, with its useful feature 
'depend':

watch kata
   service http
interval 2m
monitor http.monitor
depend kata:ping

If the machine does not reply to pings, there is no need testing Apache.



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Re: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread JSeverino


Funcionan con SNMP habilitado o simples paquetes UDP 

Jorge


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Re[2]: Exim Outlook question

2001-01-23 Thread Minta Adrian

MB Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
 
 Far be it for a SysAdm to interfere with another, but this beats BOFH by a
 mile.  This is classic ROTFL material.
 
 You are joking, right? ;-)

MB I can see a few occasions when this might be useful.

MB Take for an example when the Computer/IT/Security policy ban the use of
MB MS Outlook MUA because of the security risk it has (anyone still
MB remember the love letter and/or melissa virus?), then banning Outlook
MB from using the mail server is a perfectly valid reason.

MB Just my $0.02

That's the idea ! The mail viruses are in fact Outlook
viruses. The M$Outlook is the only mail client with the unique ability
to execute gif pictures (yes execute not only display) and many other
"useful features" (security holes) like this.

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Re: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread brian moore

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:37:25PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 January 2001, at 10 h 26, the keyboard of Michael Boman 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  you may ask? Well, what if the
  router/switch/firewall/another-single-point-of-failure between your
  monitoring server and the rest of the network goes down? BB will scream
  that every server/router (etc) you have on the other side is down, while
  NetSaint understands that it's the router/firewall/etc that is down.
 
 mon http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/ does the same, with its
 useful feature 'depend':
 
 watch kata
service http
 interval 2m
 monitor http.monitor
 depend kata:ping
 
 If the machine does not reply to pings, there is no need testing
 Apache.

Yes, and mon is very very nice.  I have a 'main-mon' instance running on
one machine that monitors everything from pingability to router port
status (via snmp) to mysql status, radius server status, disk space,
etc, with a simple dependency setup so that if a router port goes down
(did I mention MCI sucks?), I don't get alerted about remote systems
being unreachable or ssh failing on them, just the router port. 

Because I'm paranoid, I have a 'mini-mon' running on another machine
that just makes sure 'main-mon' is running.   (Okay, it's never failed,
but the machine 'mini-mon' is running on is sorta flaky and makes me
paranoid)

It's simple to use, simple to write your own monitors for, and flexible
(use m4 for configs!).   It can be accessed via command line ('monshow'
or 'moncmd') or from a web interface ('monshow' or 'mon.cgi') which
I use depends on where I am.

Oh, and the way cool feature: 'acks' of alerts.  You can say 'damn, MCI
sucks again', ack the page and mon won't page you again about that
outage until it comes back up again.  (ie, it's a "disable this until
it's fixed, but then re-enable it" so you don't have to remember to do
it).  Jim Trocki has a cool pager that he can use to ack pages without
actually logging in.

Mon is what lets me sleep at night.


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AW: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread Andreas Rabus



I used to uses some of RDDTools, BigBrother, mon,... but still need to login
to a few servers.
Despite that Bots (and i will try that earlier mentiond NetSaint, too :)

so i'm interereset in that kind of thing too...

ar

-Ursprngliche Nachricht-
Von: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2001 15:34
An: Debian Ghost
Cc: debian-isp
Betreff: Re: NOC scripting 


On Monday 22 January 2001, at 18 h 16, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 using to develop the system. I plan on using enlightenment as a WM and
 wanted to ask for advice on the best way to write a script to open
 multiple terminal windows (Eterm or Xterm) to connect and log in to the
 many various systems that we monitor. 

It looks really old-fashioned. Many years ago, I saw supervision consoles in

telcos which were operated that way, with a human in front of the console 
24h/day, with nothing else to do than to watch.

Unless you have a lot of staff, why not use more automatic systems like mon
http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/?



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Re: AW: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread brian moore

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 07:33:07PM +0100, Andreas Rabus wrote:
 
 
 I used to uses some of RDDTools, BigBrother, mon,... but still need to login
 to a few servers.
 Despite that Bots (and i will try that earlier mentiond NetSaint, too :)
 
 so i'm interereset in that kind of thing too...

Sure, sometimes you can't fix things without logging in.  It should be a
trivial task to take your favorite window manager (fvwm2! :)) and add
buttons and/or menu items to log into a remote machine.  That and a web
browser should be all you need.  (And if you're bored, it's not hard to
convince monshow to provide rlogin: url's on the details for each
item... you should be able to convince Netscape to use ssh instead of
rlogin see the Navigator/Applications preferences menu.)

If you want real-time-pretty-graphs and such, look at scotty... not
nearly as useful as mon since I've never convinced it to page me, but
you can get real-time displays of all sorts of useless things and build
a mini diagnostic/display tool (where clicking on a computer could open
an ssh session).




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Re: NOC scripting

2001-01-23 Thread Debian Ghost

Hello Everyone,
Thank you all for the replies regarding Big Brother/Netsaint/mon.
Those are all very well to monitor hosts and networks. We aleready have
something similar implemented made by Harris Systems. I was doing a
seperate project to actually have a machine that has all connections open
automatically (via ssh, telnet, rsh) and yes, many of these systems do
have a funky interface that needs vt100 or something similar (mostly telco 
switches and devices) so I gess basically what I need is a scripting
method to read in login: and reply passwd: and reply and a method to place
and size Eterm/Xterm on various virtual desktops (E) ? I don't need an all
around monitoring system, but rather a machine to supply actual
connections to devices.

Thanks,

Ashby Gochenour
NTELOS 
NOC


On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

 On Monday 22 January 2001, at 18 h 16, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  using to develop the system. I plan on using enlightenment as a WM and
  wanted to ask for advice on the best way to write a script to open
  multiple terminal windows (Eterm or Xterm) to connect and log in to the
  many various systems that we monitor. 
 
 It looks really old-fashioned. Many years ago, I saw supervision consoles in 
 telcos which were operated that way, with a human in front of the console 
 24h/day, with nothing else to do than to watch.
 
 Unless you have a lot of staff, why not use more automatic systems like mon 
http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/?
 
 
 


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Debian vs. freeBSD

2001-01-23 Thread Debian Ghost

Hey All,
I know I've been causing a lot of mail on the list lately, but I hope to
get a good response out of this one too. My manager has asked me to write
a proposal on installing Debian or FreeBSD on a few servers here that will
be used (internally to the company- i.e- non production) for basic
services such as NFS, mail, apache (backing a request tracker ticketing
system), internal DNS and ftp services. I've been using
debian for about a year and a half and have used freeBSD for a few months
back in 1998 before laying it aside for linux. From my experiences I
can't really see why one would be superior to the other if configured
properly. Do any of you as debian-ispers have any opinions of things I
could list in the proposal? 

Thanks for the time. This is the best list I've seen in quite some time as
everyone is curtious and non FLAMEboyant :)

Kindly,

Ashby Gochenour
NTELOS
NOC


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Re: Debian vs. freeBSD

2001-01-23 Thread Roger Abrahamsson

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Debian Ghost wrote:

 Hey All,
 I know I've been causing a lot of mail on the list lately, but I hope to
 get a good response out of this one too. My manager has asked me to write
 a proposal on installing Debian or FreeBSD on a few servers here that will
 be used (internally to the company- i.e- non production) for basic
 services such as NFS, mail, apache (backing a request tracker ticketing
 system), internal DNS and ftp services. I've been using
 debian for about a year and a half and have used freeBSD for a few months
 back in 1998 before laying it aside for linux. From my experiences I
 can't really see why one would be superior to the other if configured
 properly. Do any of you as debian-ispers have any opinions of things I
 could list in the proposal? 
 
 Thanks for the time. This is the best list I've seen in quite some time as
 everyone is curtious and non FLAMEboyant :)
 
 Kindly,
 
 Ashby Gochenour
 NTELOS
 NOC
 


Well, I would say go with what you know the best. As you will most likely
run the exact same programs, but compiled for your system, you can always
change later if you find any problems. As far as I know FreeBSD is
supposedly a tad sharper with very heavy load, but Linux supports more
hardware and can be easier to start with.

Regards
Roger Abrahamsson

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Re: Debian vs. freeBSD

2001-01-23 Thread brian moore

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 06:42:20PM -0500, Debian Ghost wrote:
 Hey All,
 I know I've been causing a lot of mail on the list lately, but I hope to
 get a good response out of this one too. My manager has asked me to write
 a proposal on installing Debian or FreeBSD on a few servers here that will
 be used (internally to the company- i.e- non production) for basic
 services such as NFS, mail, apache (backing a request tracker ticketing
 system), internal DNS and ftp services. I've been using
 debian for about a year and a half and have used freeBSD for a few months
 back in 1998 before laying it aside for linux. From my experiences I
 can't really see why one would be superior to the other if configured
 properly. Do any of you as debian-ispers have any opinions of things I
 could list in the proposal? 
 
 Thanks for the time. This is the best list I've seen in quite some time as
 everyone is curtious and non FLAMEboyant :)

So you ask a flamebait question?  Hrrmph.

Seriously, the differences are mostly religious.


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ADSL modems that work in linux ??

2001-01-23 Thread Daniel Free

 I am looking into some DSL solutions and have yet to find any PCI 
ADSL modems that are supported in linux. i was wondering if anyone knew of any.

 short of this what other adsl options to people know of other than 
buying an ADSL router ?? ie other modem setups, USB or whatever.

 TIA

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Re: ADSL modems that work in linux ??

2001-01-23 Thread Robert Waldner

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:54:40 +1300, Daniel Free writes:
 short of this what other adsl options to people know of other than 
buying an ADSL router ?? ie other modem setups, USB or whatever.

here in .at the telco supplies external adsl-modems which connect to 
your equipment via PPTP/ethernet. they are not exactly routers, but 
rather function as a kind of bridge...while this method being *far* 
from optimal there are pptp-clients for linux and they work (Im 
writing this over such a connection ;) ), AFAIR the modems can also do 
PPPoE, but the telco doesnt support this (yet).

manufacturer is Alcatel, my model (for adsl/isdn) is called a 
"SpeedTouch 1000 ADSL", look at 
http://www.alcatel.com/consumer/dsl/supuser.htm , maybe you can find 
something there which fits your needs.

hth,
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