Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-19 Thread Bao C. Ha


You will need the advise of a lawyer on this question.

Following are my thought:

(1)  An ISP should not act until there is a complaint.  And
I mean an official one, not just an e-mail.

(2) Copyright terrorists have been known to target small
and vulnerable ISPs to make examples out of us.

Your pick!

Bao

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On Mon, 19 Mar 101, Allen Ahoffman wrote:

 as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
 copyrights violations?
 
 Here is my situation, and if you feel this is off topic, you may reply to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll keep any further out of this area.
 
 But, since this is a ISP area if I have this question someone else
 probably does too.
 
 I have a client who stores (archives) newsgroup articles.  I don't even
 provide the news data to him.
 
 He presents access to this data via a web interface to his subscribers.
 
 So, his policy as far as I know, if someone requests an article be deleted
 because of copyright isseus he does so.
 
 So, am I liable for any violations that may happen on that system?  I
 don't administer it, only sell shelf and bandwidth to them.
 
 
 
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RE: arpwatch and more

2001-03-19 Thread Jeff S Wheeler

Those quad ethernet cards support one MAC address per PHY, or they can
operate as a Cisco EtherChannel or probably other similar technologies used
to bond ethernet links, depending upon how you configure it and your switch.

I sent the below message to someone else on the list in private, thinking
that they might benefit from some further explaination, but also thinking
that most people subscribed to this list would have a solid understanding of
how modern ethernets work, and thus would not benefit from the post.
Obviously I was wrong, there appear to be lots of people on this list that
don't grok ethernet, so below is that message for the benefit of everyone.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:44 PM
To: Mike Fedyk
Subject: RE: arpwatch and more


An ethernet switch won't send frames to "multiple ports".  Ethernet switches
can broadcast, they can unicast, and some new layer3 switches can multicast
IP "efficiently", but if your switch sees the same MAC address on several
interfaces, one of them is going to get blocked (if you have spantree), or
the switch will just learn the new interface, and frames would go to the
wrong interface, but not to both.

- jsw


-Original Message-
From: Tim Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: arpwatch and more


I guess that means you have to keep those quad Ethernet Sun cards away.

Tim.

- Original Message -
From: "Marc Haber" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: arpwatch and more


 On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:05:06 -0800, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 09:24:56PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
  Please be aware, though, that the MAC address is trivial to forge
  nowadays.
 Hmm, how does a switch deal with the same mac address coming from two
ports
 at the same time?

 It will probably flap. MAC address forging will only work if the host
 that owns the forged MAC is switched off or disabled in some other
 way.



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Re: can't exec /usr/sbin/named-xfer no such file or directory SOLVED

2001-03-19 Thread Jakub Ambroewicz

Excuse me for taking your time. I simply forgot to copy libs to chrooted
dir, I didn't notice that because alpha box didn't complain about that, and
i have never seen bind logs before so I assumed "all is OK if there are no
errors". And that was my mistake.
One thing I don't understand - why alpha didn't complain about it? But it's
another story
 
 Once again sorry.
 
 JA
 



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Re: can't exec /usr/sbin/named-xfer no such file or directory

2001-03-19 Thread Jakub Ambroewicz
I'm sorry for the mess i did with different emails i've sent this message,
but i was travelling from comp to comp. I have sent mails as Agnieszka
ochocka and Jakub.
Sorry again.

JA

 Another question: is it something bad - can i live with that? After
 compiling bind n'th time on i486 box im acting rather nervously when i
hear
 compile. So maybe i will just cut those nasty messages :-)

 JA





Re: make machine

2001-03-19 Thread Duane Powers
Neale Banks wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Duane Powers wrote:
I need to make some serious changes to my kernels, on various servers at 
my location, I have everything from
486's up to 1.2Gig boxes, so rather than compiling on the cpu and 
RAM-challenged boxes, I'd like to make kernels
on one of my more powerful boxes.  What do I need to be aware of when 
doing this? Anything? Do I need to copy
anything other than the bzImage and system map? If I compile for module 
support, what do I need to move to the
target machine?

Take a look at the kernel-package package.  After you have done your make
menuconfig (or equivalent) you can use make-kpkg [options] kernel-image
to make a .deb of your kernel - and we can all do dpkg -i ... ;-)
One of the thorniest issues is naming of package versions - read the
kernel-package docs regarding this.
HTH,
Neale.
Thanks, I'll try that
~duane



RE: arpwatch and more

2001-03-19 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
Those quad ethernet cards support one MAC address per PHY, or they can
operate as a Cisco EtherChannel or probably other similar technologies used
to bond ethernet links, depending upon how you configure it and your switch.

I sent the below message to someone else on the list in private, thinking
that they might benefit from some further explaination, but also thinking
that most people subscribed to this list would have a solid understanding of
how modern ethernets work, and thus would not benefit from the post.
Obviously I was wrong, there appear to be lots of people on this list that
don't grok ethernet, so below is that message for the benefit of everyone.

-Original Message-
From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 11:44 PM
To: Mike Fedyk
Subject: RE: arpwatch and more


An ethernet switch won't send frames to multiple ports.  Ethernet switches
can broadcast, they can unicast, and some new layer3 switches can multicast
IP efficiently, but if your switch sees the same MAC address on several
interfaces, one of them is going to get blocked (if you have spantree), or
the switch will just learn the new interface, and frames would go to the
wrong interface, but not to both.

- jsw


-Original Message-
From: Tim Kent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:50 AM
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: arpwatch and more


I guess that means you have to keep those quad Ethernet Sun cards away.

Tim.

- Original Message -
From: Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: arpwatch and more


 On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:05:06 -0800, Mike Fedyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 09:24:56PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
  Please be aware, though, that the MAC address is trivial to forge
  nowadays.
 Hmm, how does a switch deal with the same mac address coming from two
ports
 at the same time?

 It will probably flap. MAC address forging will only work if the host
 that owns the forged MAC is switched off or disabled in some other
 way.



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Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-19 Thread Eric Jennings
as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
copyrights violations?
Here is my situation, and if you feel this is off topic, you may reply to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll keep any further out of this area.
But, since this is a ISP area if I have this question someone else
probably does too.
I have a client who stores (archives) newsgroup articles.  I don't even
provide the news data to him.
He presents access to this data via a web interface to his subscribers.
So, his policy as far as I know, if someone requests an article be deleted
because of copyright isseus he does so.
So, am I liable for any violations that may happen on that system?  I
don't administer it, only sell shelf and bandwidth to them.
IANAL, but from our perspective as a web hosting company, we have a 
very detailed Acceptable Use Policy that basically states that any 
and all content hosted on the server by the user is the 
responsibility of the user.  Everything from mp3s to porn are listed 
as content not under our control or liability.  We have each user 
sign the agreement and fax/mail it back to us before beginning 
service.

Until legislature makes it more clear on who exactly is liable in 
these situations, we prefer to cover our assets in this manner.  YMMV.

Eric



sis900 network cards

2001-03-19 Thread Allen Ahoffman
are sis900 ethernet cards supported?
odd bios setting:
settings for mac address are in the bios for the sis900 card.
Haven't seen this setting before.