Re: Ping - what the hell ?

[Chris Wagner]

I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
>> > 
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
>> > Segmentation fault
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>> 
>> some possible causes:
>> 
>> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
>> 
>> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
>> not work)
>> 
>> 3. other bad hardware
>> 
>> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
>> 
>
>It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
>it.
> Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> It's a miracle it was working all together...
>
>-=Czaj-nick=-
>
>
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

[Chris Wagner]

I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
>> > 
>> > czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
>> > Segmentation fault
>> > czajnik@earth:~$
>> 
>> some possible causes:
>> 
>> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
>> 
>> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
>> not work)
>> 
>> 3. other bad hardware
>> 
>> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
>> 
>
>It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
>it.
> Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> It's a miracle it was working all together...
>
>-=Czaj-nick=-
>
>
>
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Re: Help needed on MASQUERADE

[Alson van der Meulen]

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:39:29PM +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> HI all,
> 
> I have an internet connection on eth0 (10.0.0.1) and a private network 
> connection on eth1 (192.168.0.1).
> 
> I put the masquerade configuration on a kernel 2.4.4 : 
> 
>   iptables -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
>   echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> 
> A workstation on my network succeeded to ping both eth0 and eth1, but didn't 
> succeed to go out of my network to reach the internet.
have you tried setting all other chains to accept?
iirc the masqeuraded packet has to be accepted by the filter table
too.. rtfm ;)

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Re: Have you been hacked by f*ck PoizonBOx?

[Alson van der Meulen]

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:09:02PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello back,
> 
> it is an IP from AOL and they have too much IP's to blacklist it. 
> I have around 180 different IP's from it beginning with 172.x.x.x
just nullroute aol, you won't miss much interesting traffic that way
;)
btw: 172.16.0.0-172.32.255.255 are non-routable ip's, so i guess
they're outside that range?
> 
> The biggest problem is, that the same IP can be in the USA today and 
> in Germany tomorrow. (dynamic routing ???)
you could use something like snort and nullroute the ip's if snort
gives an alert, but are you sure they're not ip spoofing?
i.e. nullrouting the default gateway of your isp won't be very nice...

you could try
route add -net 172.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo to nullroute all
172.* ip's, and just add a route for the ip's you wanna reach inside
that range

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Help needed on MASQUERADE

[Luc MAIGNAN]

HI all,

I have an internet connection on eth0 (10.0.0.1) and a private network 
connection on eth1 (192.168.0.1).

I put the masquerade configuration on a kernel 2.4.4 : 

iptables -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

A workstation on my network succeeded to ping both eth0 and eth1, but didn't 
succeed to go out of my network to reach the internet.

Anyone can help me ?

Best regards

Re: Network Design

[Jason Lim]

Hi,

I don't get this.

If you can run DNS servers (that require static IPs) then why on earth
would you want to run the webserver on a dynamic IP?
You then go on to talk about "resilience and redundancy" for your
webservers. On a dynamic IP? Whats up with that?

You're just contradicting yourself. You want to run a full scale,
load-balancing/server-takover setup, yet you want to do this all on a
dynamic IP?

I can't see how you want to do all this properly, or what your real goals
are.

Jason


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From: A. Benjamin
To: Homestead ; CrackStore
Cc: mervin whealy ; Lex Berrios ; Karl Winkler ; James J. Stewart ;
debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: Network Design


Hello,

I have a network layout that I am deemed to put into operation.
I am trying to make this thing work before I start configuring
this monster. Please offer your comments.

Here's a few hurdles I would have to overcome.
1. I do not have a static IP address to my ISP. It's dynamic.
2.Computer number 1 is on the 1st floor and the rest are
all in the basement.
3. I have no bridges, routers or switches.
4. There is one twisted-pair cable running from the basement
to computer 1 and wish not to run another.
5. I will attempt to use a redirectional service, such
as DHS to direct viewers to a my web server.
6. I will run my own DNS servers.
7. I want to add some resilience and redundancy for
my webservers. I mentioned a primary and a secondary
web server. The primary would be my main domain and
the another a subdomain. As I understand, a Class C
IP address is not routable thru the internet, but can I use
it as a secondary web server if it has a Class C IP?

A few temporal remedies:
1. I could use a program such as DHSup to have my IP
address point to the same IP address to compensate
for the dynamic IP.
2. When I use DHS services and create a host for example,
myserver.dhs.org, and my computer (locally) host name is
Phoenix,  I can configure my DNS server to reflect
phoenix.myserver.dhs.org.
3. If it is possible, I could "sub, sub, subnet" a network to
give more than one workable IP. For instance, I have
configured the following:

NetworkHosts (from and to) Broadcast Address
212.185.0.0 212.185.0.1 212.185.63.254 212.185.63.255
212.185.64.0 212.185.64.1 212.185.127.254 212.185.127.255
212.185.128.0 212.185.128.1 212.185.191.254 212.185.191.255
212.185.192.0 212.185.192.1 212.185.255.254 212.185.255.255

Is this conceivable?
Please reply with any comments that I could use to better my
problem. Thanks for you help.

Re: Help needed on MASQUERADE

[Alson van der Meulen]

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:39:29PM +0200, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> HI all,
> 
> I have an internet connection on eth0 (10.0.0.1) and a private network 
> connection on eth1 (192.168.0.1).
> 
> I put the masquerade configuration on a kernel 2.4.4 : 
> 
>   iptables -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
>   echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> 
> A workstation on my network succeeded to ping both eth0 and eth1, but didn't 
> succeed to go out of my network to reach the internet.
have you tried setting all other chains to accept?
iirc the masqeuraded packet has to be accepted by the filter table
too.. rtfm ;)

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> School:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<
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Re: Have you been hacked by f*ck PoizonBOx?

[Alson van der Meulen]

On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:09:02PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello back,
> 
> it is an IP from AOL and they have too much IP's to blacklist it. 
> I have around 180 different IP's from it beginning with 172.x.x.x
just nullroute aol, you won't miss much interesting traffic that way
;)
btw: 172.16.0.0-172.32.255.255 are non-routable ip's, so i guess
they're outside that range?
> 
> The biggest problem is, that the same IP can be in the USA today and 
> in Germany tomorrow. (dynamic routing ???)
you could use something like snort and nullroute the ip's if snort
gives an alert, but are you sure they're not ip spoofing?
i.e. nullrouting the default gateway of your isp won't be very nice...

you could try
route add -net 172.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo to nullroute all
172.* ip's, and just add a route for the ip's you wanna reach inside
that range

-- 
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Re: Have you been hacked by f*ck PoizonBOx?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello back,

it is an IP from AOL and they have too much IP's to blacklist it. 
I have around 180 different IP's from it beginning with 172.x.x.x

The biggest problem is, that the same IP can be in the USA today and 
in Germany tomorrow. (dynamic routing ???)

Michelle


Am 13:43 02.06.2001 -0400 hat Peter Billson geschrieben:
>
>> Potantialy I am in danger, because I use a ISDN-Flatrate and I am
>> connected 24/24 and 7/7 to the Internet. And now I have 7 MBytes
>> of logs in less then 2 hours.
>> 
>> Michelle
>
>Would you be interested in sharing the attacking IP with us so that we
>can blacklist it?
>
>Pete
> ##  Get the Power of Debian/GNU-Linux  ##

Help needed on MASQUERADE

[Luc MAIGNAN]

HI all,

I have an internet connection on eth0 (10.0.0.1) and a private network 
connection on eth1 (192.168.0.1).

I put the masquerade configuration on a kernel 2.4.4 : 

iptables -t nat -s 192.168.0.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
echo 1>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

A workstation on my network succeeded to ping both eth0 and eth1, but didn't 
succeed to go out of my network to reach the internet.

Anyone can help me ?

Best regards


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Network Design

[A. Benjamin]

Hello,

I have a network layout that I am deemed to put into operation. 
I am trying to make this thing work before I start configuring 
this monster. Please offer your comments.

Here's a few hurdles I would have to overcome.
1. I do not have a static IP address to my ISP. It's dynamic.
2.Computer number 1 is on the 1st floor and the rest are
all in the basement.
3. I have no bridges, routers or switches.
4. There is one twisted-pair cable running from the basement
to computer 1 and wish not to run another.
5. I will attempt to use a redirectional service, such
as DHS to direct viewers to a my web server.
6. I will run my own DNS servers.
7. I want to add some resilience and redundancy for
my webservers. I mentioned a primary and a secondary
web server. The primary would be my main domain and
the another a subdomain. As I understand, a Class C
IP address is not routable thru the internet, but can I use
it as a secondary web server if it has a Class C IP?

A few temporal remedies:
1. I could use a program such as DHSup to have my IP
address point to the same IP address to compensate
for the dynamic IP.
2. When I use DHS services and create a host for example,
myserver.dhs.org, and my computer (locally) host name is
Phoenix,  I can configure my DNS server to reflect
phoenix.myserver.dhs.org.
3. If it is possible, I could "sub, sub, subnet" a network to 
give more than one workable IP. For instance, I have 
configured the following:

NetworkHosts (from and to) Broadcast Address
212.185.0.0 212.185.0.1 212.185.63.254 212.185.63.255 
212.185.64.0 212.185.64.1 212.185.127.254 212.185.127.255 
212.185.128.0 212.185.128.1 212.185.191.254 212.185.191.255 
212.185.192.0 212.185.192.1 212.185.255.254 212.185.255.255 

Is this conceivable?
Please reply with any comments that I could use to better my 
problem. Thanks for you help.





Title: network_diagram





	
		
			
	
			
		
	

ANNOUNCE: Freeside 1.3.1

[ivan]

I'm happy to announce the release of Freeside 1.3.1.

Freeside is an open-source billing and account administration package for
ISPs.

You can download the new version, read the documentation, and play with a
web demo at .

This is also a request-for-assitance from a more experienced Debian
developer for assistance packaging the software.  I've packaged some
simple programs, but the amount of integration a central billing database
has with other systems is making packing difficult.

All of the dependencies are already packaged and in woody.  For potato, I
maintain an apt-able repository of the necessary Perl modules: 

deb http://cleanwhisker.420.am/pub/debian-unoff stable main

1.3.1 is a bugfix release which fixes all currently known problems with
1.3.0.  If the 1.3.0 verison gave you problems, give this version a try.

New features of the 1.3.x series include:

- Database transactions
- Web aging reports
- Export of BIND and Apache configuration files.
- Session monitor to track and limit usage on a time
  (hourly/"minutely") basis.  This can be used, with RADIUS, to keep track
  of NAS ports, and can also be used to implement hotel- or cafe- type
  access, where the user must sign in on a webpage before being granted
  access to the network.  In conjunction with the session server, prepaid
  cards can now be for an amount of time rather than money.

Enjoy!

-- 
meow
_ivan

Re: Network Design

[Jason Lim]

Hi,

I don't get this.

If you can run DNS servers (that require static IPs) then why on earth
would you want to run the webserver on a dynamic IP?
You then go on to talk about "resilience and redundancy" for your
webservers. On a dynamic IP? Whats up with that?

You're just contradicting yourself. You want to run a full scale,
load-balancing/server-takover setup, yet you want to do this all on a
dynamic IP?

I can't see how you want to do all this properly, or what your real goals
are.

Jason


- Original Message -
From: A. Benjamin
To: Homestead ; CrackStore
Cc: mervin whealy ; Lex Berrios ; Karl Winkler ; James J. Stewart ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: Network Design


Hello,

I have a network layout that I am deemed to put into operation.
I am trying to make this thing work before I start configuring
this monster. Please offer your comments.

Here's a few hurdles I would have to overcome.
1. I do not have a static IP address to my ISP. It's dynamic.
2.Computer number 1 is on the 1st floor and the rest are
all in the basement.
3. I have no bridges, routers or switches.
4. There is one twisted-pair cable running from the basement
to computer 1 and wish not to run another.
5. I will attempt to use a redirectional service, such
as DHS to direct viewers to a my web server.
6. I will run my own DNS servers.
7. I want to add some resilience and redundancy for
my webservers. I mentioned a primary and a secondary
web server. The primary would be my main domain and
the another a subdomain. As I understand, a Class C
IP address is not routable thru the internet, but can I use
it as a secondary web server if it has a Class C IP?

A few temporal remedies:
1. I could use a program such as DHSup to have my IP
address point to the same IP address to compensate
for the dynamic IP.
2. When I use DHS services and create a host for example,
myserver.dhs.org, and my computer (locally) host name is
Phoenix,  I can configure my DNS server to reflect
phoenix.myserver.dhs.org.
3. If it is possible, I could "sub, sub, subnet" a network to
give more than one workable IP. For instance, I have
configured the following:

NetworkHosts (from and to) Broadcast Address
212.185.0.0 212.185.0.1 212.185.63.254 212.185.63.255
212.185.64.0 212.185.64.1 212.185.127.254 212.185.127.255
212.185.128.0 212.185.128.1 212.185.191.254 212.185.191.255
212.185.192.0 212.185.192.1 212.185.255.254 212.185.255.255

Is this conceivable?
Please reply with any comments that I could use to better my
problem. Thanks for you help.


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Re: Have you been hacked by f*ck PoizonBOx?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello back,

it is an IP from AOL and they have too much IP's to blacklist it. 
I have around 180 different IP's from it beginning with 172.x.x.x

The biggest problem is, that the same IP can be in the USA today and 
in Germany tomorrow. (dynamic routing ???)

Michelle


Am 13:43 02.06.2001 -0400 hat Peter Billson geschrieben:
>
>> Potantialy I am in danger, because I use a ISDN-Flatrate and I am
>> connected 24/24 and 7/7 to the Internet. And now I have 7 MBytes
>> of logs in less then 2 hours.
>> 
>> Michelle
>
>Would you be interested in sharing the attacking IP with us so that we
>can blacklist it?
>
>Pete
> ##  Get the Power of Debian/GNU-Linux  ##


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Network Design

[A. Benjamin]

Hello,

I have a network layout that I am deemed to put into operation. 
I am trying to make this thing work before I start configuring 
this monster. Please offer your comments.

Here's a few hurdles I would have to overcome.
1. I do not have a static IP address to my ISP. It's dynamic.
2.Computer number 1 is on the 1st floor and the rest are
all in the basement.
3. I have no bridges, routers or switches.
4. There is one twisted-pair cable running from the basement
to computer 1 and wish not to run another.
5. I will attempt to use a redirectional service, such
as DHS to direct viewers to a my web server.
6. I will run my own DNS servers.
7. I want to add some resilience and redundancy for
my webservers. I mentioned a primary and a secondary
web server. The primary would be my main domain and
the another a subdomain. As I understand, a Class C
IP address is not routable thru the internet, but can I use
it as a secondary web server if it has a Class C IP?

A few temporal remedies:
1. I could use a program such as DHSup to have my IP
address point to the same IP address to compensate
for the dynamic IP.
2. When I use DHS services and create a host for example,
myserver.dhs.org, and my computer (locally) host name is
Phoenix,  I can configure my DNS server to reflect
phoenix.myserver.dhs.org.
3. If it is possible, I could "sub, sub, subnet" a network to 
give more than one workable IP. For instance, I have 
configured the following:

NetworkHosts (from and to) Broadcast Address
212.185.0.0 212.185.0.1 212.185.63.254 212.185.63.255 
212.185.64.0 212.185.64.1 212.185.127.254 212.185.127.255 
212.185.128.0 212.185.128.1 212.185.191.254 212.185.191.255 
212.185.192.0 212.185.192.1 212.185.255.254 212.185.255.255 

Is this conceivable?
Please reply with any comments that I could use to better my 
problem. Thanks for you help.






Title: network_diagram





	
		
			
	
			
		
	

ANNOUNCE: Freeside 1.3.1

[ivan]

I'm happy to announce the release of Freeside 1.3.1.

Freeside is an open-source billing and account administration package for
ISPs.

You can download the new version, read the documentation, and play with a
web demo at .

This is also a request-for-assitance from a more experienced Debian
developer for assistance packaging the software.  I've packaged some
simple programs, but the amount of integration a central billing database
has with other systems is making packing difficult.

All of the dependencies are already packaged and in woody.  For potato, I
maintain an apt-able repository of the necessary Perl modules: 

deb http://cleanwhisker.420.am/pub/debian-unoff stable main

1.3.1 is a bugfix release which fixes all currently known problems with
1.3.0.  If the 1.3.0 verison gave you problems, give this version a try.

New features of the 1.3.x series include:

- Database transactions
- Web aging reports
- Export of BIND and Apache configuration files.
- Session monitor to track and limit usage on a time
  (hourly/"minutely") basis.  This can be used, with RADIUS, to keep track
  of NAS ports, and can also be used to implement hotel- or cafe- type
  access, where the user must sign in on a webpage before being granted
  access to the network.  In conjunction with the session server, prepaid
  cards can now be for an amount of time rather than money.

Enjoy!

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_ivan


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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

[Przemyslaw Wegrzyn]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
> > Segmentation fault
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> some possible causes:
> 
> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
> 
> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
> not work)
> 
> 3. other bad hardware
> 
> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
> 

It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
 Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
it.
 Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
 It's a miracle it was working all together...

-=Czaj-nick=-

Re: Ping - what the hell ?

[Przemyslaw Wegrzyn]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> > 
> > czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
> > Segmentation fault
> > czajnik@earth:~$
> 
> some possible causes:
> 
> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
> 
> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
> not work)
> 
> 3. other bad hardware
> 
> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
> 

It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
 Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
it.
 Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
 It's a miracle it was working all together...

-=Czaj-nick=-



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Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

[Marc Haber]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:44:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris
Wagner) wrote:
>While we're on this subject, does anyone know what IANA plans to do with the
>vast number of "reserved" ip ranges.  There are atleast 75 reserved class A
>ranges that I don't know what they're reserved for.  People are claiming
>we're running out of ip addresses but as far as I can see there's more than
>enough left for decades to come.

They just recently started to assign 217.0.0.0/8 to RIPE which has
been previously assigned.

Greeings
Marc

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Re: routing routable IPs over non-routable IPs

[Marc Haber]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:44:19 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris
Wagner) wrote:
>While we're on this subject, does anyone know what IANA plans to do with the
>vast number of "reserved" ip ranges.  There are atleast 75 reserved class A
>ranges that I don't know what they're reserved for.  People are claiming
>we're running out of ip addresses but as far as I can see there's more than
>enough left for decades to come.

They just recently started to assign 217.0.0.0/8 to RIPE which has
been previously assigned.

Greeings
Marc

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