Unstable XFree4 config scripts

2001-11-05 Thread James

Hello

Does anybody know how to restart the scripts which configure XFree4 in
unstable so nicely? 

Thanks

James




VIM

2001-11-05 Thread Craigsc
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tunnels

2001-11-05 Thread Martin 'pisi' Paljak
Hello!
a bit offtopic, but:
*My home machine is connectod to the internet with a dsl modem and pppoe
*my isp has configured the stuff so that from the internet only
connections to the port 113/tcp are allowed(I'm running ssh on that port
at the moment)
*I have another machine on the net, with two assigned ip-s 1.2.3.4 and
1.2.3.9
*since only one is in use, I'd like to make my home machine visible to the
internet as ip 1.2.3.9, using some secure method


My question is how to do it ?
Martin





hardware raid

2001-11-05 Thread Andrew Kaplan
I'm looking for a good hardware raid 1 (mirroring) solution for Debian. Will
the promise cards work with Debian or is there a better solution thanks.

Andrew P. Kaplan
Network Administrator
CyberShore, Inc.
http://www.cshore.com

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advice in technology. --Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't
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RE: hardware raid

2001-11-05 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
The 3ware cards work really well.  www.3ware.com and check out the Escalade
6200/6400? or 7xxx series if you have 64-bit PCI slots.

- jsw


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RE: hardware raid

2001-11-05 Thread Jesse Molina

If you are looking for Ultra 160 SCSI, the Mylex AcceleRAID 170 may be
something that you want.  I recent purchased about 30 of these cards for a
RAID 1 solution for some rack servers.  They work pretty good.  RAID0,
RAID1, Spanning (JBOD), RAID5.  You can backup and restore the controller
configuration to a floppy disk, the BIOS interface is fairly nice and
simple.  Rebuilding takes awhile, but no big deal.

They also make an AcceleRAID 170LP, a low-profile PCI card.  Pretty neat.

AMI recently sold all of their RAID card business to LSI Logic, this making
getting some of the AMI cards a bit difficult right now.  Otherwise, I would
also recommend the AMI Express 500.

If you are looking for IDE, I have no comment there.



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 for Debian. Will
 the promise cards work with Debian or is there a better 
 solution thanks.
 
 Andrew P. Kaplan
 Network Administrator
 CyberShore, Inc.
 http://www.cshore.com
 
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 advice in technology. --Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't
 be interested in meeting Bill Gates.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Transparent IDE RAID controller

2001-11-05 Thread Jason Lim
Actually... come to think of it... I wonder if ANY RAID controller does
the following...

- appears to be just ONE hard disk (eg. hda) to the server
- actually has 2 or more hard disks connected to the RAID controller (but
only shows up as one to the OS)
- if in RAID1 mode (mirroring), if one disk fails, the controller
AUTOMATICALLY uses the remaining hard disk(s), and perhaps a LED could
light up, indicating a problem with a disk. Once a new disk is connected,
the RAID controller automatically rebuilds
- if in other modes, does 99% of operations by itself with no intervention
required by the OS (auto rebuilds, etc.) except manual things like
replacing a dead drive

This would mean the RAID controller is, more or less, OS independent, and
requires no OS level software to make it run, thus making it a
transparent RAID controller.

I've pondered this for a while, and i'm certainly no hardware raid expert
but it appears like a workable and doable solution.

So, for example if i mounted hda, the controller would transparently
activate both the drives (if you are running raid1 with 2 hds). A cp to
hda would tell the controller to do a normal cp to hda on the OS level,
but the transparent hardware raid controller would know that it is
running in raid1 mode and automatically cp the file(s) to both hard disks.
After cping the file to both hard disks, it would tell the OS, like a
regular hd controller, that it had finished the operation, and thus the OS
would not need to know that the file(s) were actually copied to 2
different hard disks.

If there is such a solution on the market... I haven't seen it. But
perhaps you could tell me WHY there is no such product when it seems like
it would solve many problems with software/hardware incompatibilities, and
would solve many many admin's troubles?

Failing that... is there ANY product on the market that does plain
hardware level mirroring (for IDE)? What we do now is (essentially) cp hda
to hdb every 24 hours, so in the case of a major hd failure on hda, we
simply swap hdb over to hda and continue running (but with stuff that
could be up to 24 hours old). What would a solution be to make it so hdb
is never so out of date with hda, or perhaps even a LIVE copy (considering
the above proposed transparent hardware raid, and without causing massive
load during the day)?

I think this is something many admins have to consider... what is YOUR
solution to this?

Sincerely,
Jason

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From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-Isp debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: hardware raid



 If you are looking for Ultra 160 SCSI, the Mylex AcceleRAID 170 may be
 something that you want.  I recent purchased about 30 of these cards for
a
 RAID 1 solution for some rack servers.  They work pretty good.  RAID0,
 RAID1, Spanning (JBOD), RAID5.  You can backup and restore the
controller
 configuration to a floppy disk, the BIOS interface is fairly nice and
 simple.  Rebuilding takes awhile, but no big deal.

 They also make an AcceleRAID 170LP, a low-profile PCI card.  Pretty
neat.

 AMI recently sold all of their RAID card business to LSI Logic, this
making
 getting some of the AMI cards a bit difficult right now.  Otherwise, I
would
 also recommend the AMI Express 500.

 If you are looking for IDE, I have no comment there.



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 # Network Engineer Maximum Charisma Studios Inc.
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.303.432.0286
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  Subject: hardware raid
 
 
  I'm looking for a good hardware raid 1 (mirroring) solution
  for Debian. Will
  the promise cards work with Debian or is there a better
  solution thanks.
 
  Andrew P. Kaplan
  Network Administrator
  CyberShore, Inc.
  http://www.cshore.com
 
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  advice in technology. --Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't
  be interested in meeting Bill Gates.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Transparent IDE RAID controller

2001-11-05 Thread Jeff S Wheeler
Yes, please visit 3ware's web site.  Their Escalade controller takes ATA/66
and ATA/100 disks, and provides a SCSI interface to the OS.  Drivers for
linux and various Windows platforms are available.  I've had good
experiences with their controllers and use them in production.

- jsw


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From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:28 PM
To: Debian-Isp
Subject: Transparent IDE RAID controller


Actually... come to think of it... I wonder if ANY RAID controller does
the following...

- appears to be just ONE hard disk (eg. hda) to the server
- actually has 2 or more hard disks connected to the RAID controller (but
only shows up as one to the OS)
- if in RAID1 mode (mirroring), if one disk fails, the controller
AUTOMATICALLY uses the remaining hard disk(s), and perhaps a LED could
light up, indicating a problem with a disk. Once a new disk is connected,
the RAID controller automatically rebuilds
- if in other modes, does 99% of operations by itself with no intervention
required by the OS (auto rebuilds, etc.) except manual things like
replacing a dead drive

This would mean the RAID controller is, more or less, OS independent, and
requires no OS level software to make it run, thus making it a
transparent RAID controller.

I've pondered this for a while, and i'm certainly no hardware raid expert
but it appears like a workable and doable solution.

So, for example if i mounted hda, the controller would transparently
activate both the drives (if you are running raid1 with 2 hds). A cp to
hda would tell the controller to do a normal cp to hda on the OS level,
but the transparent hardware raid controller would know that it is
running in raid1 mode and automatically cp the file(s) to both hard disks.
After cping the file to both hard disks, it would tell the OS, like a
regular hd controller, that it had finished the operation, and thus the OS
would not need to know that the file(s) were actually copied to 2
different hard disks.

If there is such a solution on the market... I haven't seen it. But
perhaps you could tell me WHY there is no such product when it seems like
it would solve many problems with software/hardware incompatibilities, and
would solve many many admin's troubles?

Failing that... is there ANY product on the market that does plain
hardware level mirroring (for IDE)? What we do now is (essentially) cp hda
to hdb every 24 hours, so in the case of a major hd failure on hda, we
simply swap hdb over to hda and continue running (but with stuff that
could be up to 24 hours old). What would a solution be to make it so hdb
is never so out of date with hda, or perhaps even a LIVE copy (considering
the above proposed transparent hardware raid, and without causing massive
load during the day)?

I think this is something many admins have to consider... what is YOUR
solution to this?

Sincerely,
Jason

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From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-Isp debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: hardware raid



 If you are looking for Ultra 160 SCSI, the Mylex AcceleRAID 170 may be
 something that you want.  I recent purchased about 30 of these cards for
a
 RAID 1 solution for some rack servers.  They work pretty good.  RAID0,
 RAID1, Spanning (JBOD), RAID5.  You can backup and restore the
controller
 configuration to a floppy disk, the BIOS interface is fairly nice and
 simple.  Rebuilding takes awhile, but no big deal.

 They also make an AcceleRAID 170LP, a low-profile PCI card.  Pretty
neat.

 AMI recently sold all of their RAID card business to LSI Logic, this
making
 getting some of the AMI cards a bit difficult right now.  Otherwise, I
would
 also recommend the AMI Express 500.

 If you are looking for IDE, I have no comment there.



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 # Network Engineer Maximum Charisma Studios Inc.
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  From: Andrew Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 3:20 PM
  To: Debian-Isp
  Subject: hardware raid
 
 
  I'm looking for a good hardware raid 1 (mirroring) solution
  for Debian. Will
  the promise cards work with Debian or is there a better
  solution thanks.
 
  Andrew P. Kaplan
  Network Administrator
  CyberShore, Inc.
  http://www.cshore.com
 
  I couldn't give him advice in business and he couldn't give me
  advice in technology. --Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't
  be interested in meeting Bill Gates.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Transparent IDE RAID controller

2001-11-05 Thread Jesse Molina

These are all very standard features in hardware SCSI RAID controllers that
I know of, but my knowledge of IDE RAID controllers is very limited.  If all
of the RAID controller functions are not transparent to the operating
system, it is not a hardware RAID controller as far as I am concerned.  If
it requires software, then it is a software controller!

I am very interested in the subject though, as I am going to need a RAID5
IDE controller in the near future.  I was looking at the AMI i4, now the LSI
Logic i4,
http://www.lsilogic.com/products/storage_standard_prod/raid/ideraid.html.
Check out the features on that PDF.  It is i960 based.  They do not list
Debian under OS support -- the bastards ;) , It probably works though.

Promise has something called the SuperTrakSX 6000.
http://promise.com/Products/Default.htm.

This is getting really non-Debian, but I would be very interested in the
knowledge of IDE controllers in this area.  It is going on a Debian box if
that is any consolation.



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 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:28 PM
 To: Debian-Isp
 Subject: Transparent IDE RAID controller
 
 
 Actually... come to think of it... I wonder if ANY RAID 
 controller does
 the following...
 
 - appears to be just ONE hard disk (eg. hda) to the server
 - actually has 2 or more hard disks connected to the RAID 
 controller (but
 only shows up as one to the OS)
 - if in RAID1 mode (mirroring), if one disk fails, the controller
 AUTOMATICALLY uses the remaining hard disk(s), and perhaps a LED could
 light up, indicating a problem with a disk. Once a new disk 
 is connected,
 the RAID controller automatically rebuilds
 - if in other modes, does 99% of operations by itself with no 
 intervention
 required by the OS (auto rebuilds, etc.) except manual things like
 replacing a dead drive
 
 This would mean the RAID controller is, more or less, OS 
 independent, and
 requires no OS level software to make it run, thus making it a
 transparent RAID controller.
 
 I've pondered this for a while, and i'm certainly no hardware 
 raid expert
 but it appears like a workable and doable solution.
 
 So, for example if i mounted hda, the controller would transparently
 activate both the drives (if you are running raid1 with 2 
 hds). A cp to
 hda would tell the controller to do a normal cp to hda on the 
 OS level,
 but the transparent hardware raid controller would know that it is
 running in raid1 mode and automatically cp the file(s) to 
 both hard disks.
 After cping the file to both hard disks, it would tell the OS, like a
 regular hd controller, that it had finished the operation, 
 and thus the OS
 would not need to know that the file(s) were actually copied to 2
 different hard disks.
 
 If there is such a solution on the market... I haven't seen it. But
 perhaps you could tell me WHY there is no such product when 
 it seems like
 it would solve many problems with software/hardware 
 incompatibilities, and
 would solve many many admin's troubles?
 
 Failing that... is there ANY product on the market that does plain
 hardware level mirroring (for IDE)? What we do now is 
 (essentially) cp hda
 to hdb every 24 hours, so in the case of a major hd failure on hda, we
 simply swap hdb over to hda and continue running (but with stuff that
 could be up to 24 hours old). What would a solution be to 
 make it so hdb
 is never so out of date with hda, or perhaps even a LIVE copy 
 (considering
 the above proposed transparent hardware raid, and without 
 causing massive
 load during the day)?
 
 I think this is something many admins have to consider... what is YOUR
 solution to this?
 
 Sincerely,
 Jason
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-Isp debian-isp@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:41 AM
 Subject: RE: hardware raid
 
 
 
  If you are looking for Ultra 160 SCSI, the Mylex AcceleRAID 
 170 may be
  something that you want.  I recent purchased about 30 of 
 these cards for
 a
  RAID 1 solution for some rack servers.  They work pretty 
 good.  RAID0,
  RAID1, Spanning (JBOD), RAID5.  You can backup and restore the
 controller
  configuration to a floppy disk, the BIOS interface is 
 fairly nice and
  simple.  Rebuilding takes awhile, but no big deal.
 
  They also make an AcceleRAID 170LP, a low-profile PCI card.  Pretty
 neat.
 
  AMI recently sold all of their RAID card business to LSI Logic, this
 making
  getting some of the AMI cards a bit difficult right now.  
 Otherwise, I
 would
  also recommend the AMI Express 500.
 
  If you are looking for IDE, I have no comment there.
 
 
 
  # Jesse Molina lanner, Snow
  # Network Engineer Maximum Charisma Studios Inc.
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.303.432.0286
  # end of sig
 
 
   

RE: Transparent IDE RAID controller

2001-11-05 Thread Jesse Molina

SWWWEET.  I knew this was in my bookmarks somewhere


Check this out;

Linux IDE-RAID Notes
http://www.research.att.com/~gjm/linux/ide-raid.html



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 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:28 PM
 To: Debian-Isp
 Subject: Transparent IDE RAID controller
 
 
 Actually... come to think of it... I wonder if ANY RAID 
 controller does
 the following...
 
 - appears to be just ONE hard disk (eg. hda) to the server
 - actually has 2 or more hard disks connected to the RAID 
 controller (but
 only shows up as one to the OS)
 - if in RAID1 mode (mirroring), if one disk fails, the controller
 AUTOMATICALLY uses the remaining hard disk(s), and perhaps a LED could
 light up, indicating a problem with a disk. Once a new disk 
 is connected,
 the RAID controller automatically rebuilds
 - if in other modes, does 99% of operations by itself with no 
 intervention
 required by the OS (auto rebuilds, etc.) except manual things like
 replacing a dead drive
 
 This would mean the RAID controller is, more or less, OS 
 independent, and
 requires no OS level software to make it run, thus making it a
 transparent RAID controller.
 
 I've pondered this for a while, and i'm certainly no hardware 
 raid expert
 but it appears like a workable and doable solution.
 
 So, for example if i mounted hda, the controller would transparently
 activate both the drives (if you are running raid1 with 2 
 hds). A cp to
 hda would tell the controller to do a normal cp to hda on the 
 OS level,
 but the transparent hardware raid controller would know that it is
 running in raid1 mode and automatically cp the file(s) to 
 both hard disks.
 After cping the file to both hard disks, it would tell the OS, like a
 regular hd controller, that it had finished the operation, 
 and thus the OS
 would not need to know that the file(s) were actually copied to 2
 different hard disks.
 
 If there is such a solution on the market... I haven't seen it. But
 perhaps you could tell me WHY there is no such product when 
 it seems like
 it would solve many problems with software/hardware 
 incompatibilities, and
 would solve many many admin's troubles?
 
 Failing that... is there ANY product on the market that does plain
 hardware level mirroring (for IDE)? What we do now is 
 (essentially) cp hda
 to hdb every 24 hours, so in the case of a major hd failure on hda, we
 simply swap hdb over to hda and continue running (but with stuff that
 could be up to 24 hours old). What would a solution be to 
 make it so hdb
 is never so out of date with hda, or perhaps even a LIVE copy 
 (considering
 the above proposed transparent hardware raid, and without 
 causing massive
 load during the day)?
 
 I think this is something many admins have to consider... what is YOUR
 solution to this?
 
 Sincerely,
 Jason
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian-Isp debian-isp@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:41 AM
 Subject: RE: hardware raid
 
 
 
  If you are looking for Ultra 160 SCSI, the Mylex AcceleRAID 
 170 may be
  something that you want.  I recent purchased about 30 of 
 these cards for
 a
  RAID 1 solution for some rack servers.  They work pretty 
 good.  RAID0,
  RAID1, Spanning (JBOD), RAID5.  You can backup and restore the
 controller
  configuration to a floppy disk, the BIOS interface is 
 fairly nice and
  simple.  Rebuilding takes awhile, but no big deal.
 
  They also make an AcceleRAID 170LP, a low-profile PCI card.  Pretty
 neat.
 
  AMI recently sold all of their RAID card business to LSI Logic, this
 making
  getting some of the AMI cards a bit difficult right now.  
 Otherwise, I
 would
  also recommend the AMI Express 500.
 
  If you are looking for IDE, I have no comment there.
 
 
 
  # Jesse Molina lanner, Snow
  # Network Engineer Maximum Charisma Studios Inc.
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.303.432.0286
  # end of sig
 
 
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   From: Andrew Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 3:20 PM
   To: Debian-Isp
   Subject: hardware raid
  
  
   I'm looking for a good hardware raid 1 (mirroring) solution
   for Debian. Will
   the promise cards work with Debian or is there a better
   solution thanks.
  
   Andrew P. Kaplan
   Network Administrator
   CyberShore, Inc.
   http://www.cshore.com
  
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   advice in technology. --Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't
   be interested in meeting Bill Gates.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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