Re: Pop or Imap?
Hi! I think using POP3-SSL and IMAP-SSL server would be the best choice. Have a look at courier-imap/pop3 suite. it is easy and good. so far markus * Tim Uckun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-12-07 08:30]: > > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. > > THX. > -- > Tim Uckun > Mobile Intelligence Unit. > -- >"There are some who call me TIM?" > -- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Markus Garschaemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hartmannstr. 129fon: 09131/626715 91058 Erlangen fax: +49 89 244356966 pgp-keyid: 0xEE18AF3B --- msg04386/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pop or Imap?
claiming to be Tim Uckun, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap > encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. APOP. I dunno how you get it or whatever, but I know it exists and passwords are encrypted (IIRC). Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange apache behaviour?
Hi all, Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache generates? -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 1372461 Dec 7 13:04 apache-access.log -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 740269 Dec 2 06:21 apache-access.log.0 -rw-r-1 www-data www-data44414 Nov 25 05:52 apache-access.log.1.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data 167114 Sep 23 06:10 apache-access.log.10.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data13069 Sep 16 06:06 apache-access.log.11.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data14357 Sep 9 06:04 apache-access.log.12.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data21209 Sep 2 06:24 apache-access.log.13.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data 5979 Nov 19 2000 apache-access.log.14.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data36771 Nov 18 06:23 apache-access.log.2.gz It USED to be readable by all, now the persmissions have changed (which in my case screws up the webalizer processes run by users). Having a look at the changelog... apache (1.3.22-1) unstable; urgency=low * Default ownership of logfiles is root/adm, perms 640 (closes: #112675). Thats all nice a good... but how to I get it 644? I looked and can't appear to find it. Closest thing I could find was in /etc/apache/cron.conf, but that only sets the uid/gid, not the file permissions of the logfiles. Any ideas? TIA. Sincerely, Jason
Pop or Imap?
I am concerned about pop passwords being transmitted plaintext. Does imap encrypt passwords? if not does any protocol exists which does. THX. -- Tim Uckun Mobile Intelligence Unit. -- "There are some who call me TIM?" -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange apache behaviour?
Hi all, Do you know how to change the permissions of the log files apache generates? -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 1372461 Dec 7 13:04 apache-access.log -rw-r-1 www-data www-data 740269 Dec 2 06:21 apache-access.log.0 -rw-r-1 www-data www-data44414 Nov 25 05:52 apache-access.log.1.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data 167114 Sep 23 06:10 apache-access.log.10.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data13069 Sep 16 06:06 apache-access.log.11.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data14357 Sep 9 06:04 apache-access.log.12.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data21209 Sep 2 06:24 apache-access.log.13.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data 5979 Nov 19 2000 apache-access.log.14.gz -rw-rw-r--1 www-data www-data36771 Nov 18 06:23 apache-access.log.2.gz It USED to be readable by all, now the persmissions have changed (which in my case screws up the webalizer processes run by users). Having a look at the changelog... apache (1.3.22-1) unstable; urgency=low * Default ownership of logfiles is root/adm, perms 640 (closes: #112675). Thats all nice a good... but how to I get it 644? I looked and can't appear to find it. Closest thing I could find was in /etc/apache/cron.conf, but that only sets the uid/gid, not the file permissions of the logfiles. Any ideas? TIA. Sincerely, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
Philipp Steinkrüger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball > at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). > Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big > freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even > Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail > as outgoing mailserver. Don't bother with qmail. It has a terrible license: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html It may be good software, but exim and postfix are fine as well. -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
Quoting Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is [...] My 2c and others on Debian MTA's can be found here; http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=333 > I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you > have a very good valid reason to use these. [...] > Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody "mailserver" task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? There is also an imapd package which is even smaller. Then there's the courier imap and pop stuff, along with a host of others. When you throw in the ssl variants, you get even more, though the non-US versions seem to be lagging behind. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information.
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
Philipp Steinkrüger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball > at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). > Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big > freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even > Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail > as outgoing mailserver. Don't bother with qmail. It has a terrible license: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html It may be good software, but exim and postfix are fine as well. -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
Quoting Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is [...] My 2c and others on Debian MTA's can be found here; http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=333 > I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you > have a very good valid reason to use these. [...] > Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. As a matter of interest, what is the story with all the imap and pop implementations? The debian woody "mailserver" task includes qpopper and uw- imapd. What's wrong with the much smaller ipopd, which is uw-imapd's pop counterpart? There is also an imapd package which is even smaller. Then there's the courier imap and pop stuff, along with a host of others. When you throw in the ssl variants, you get even more, though the non-US versions seem to be lagging behind. What are peoples experiences/comments? Are the ssl variants worth using? -- ABO: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: trouble ticket system
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:40:08PM -0600, Matt Fair wrote: > Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? > I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > one in the stable release). > Thanks, > Matt PerlDesk, http://perldesk.org looks pretty cool. Haven't had the opportunity to incorporate it into existing systems yet though. > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Nick Jennings
Re: isp
Uh... this is interesting... As far as I know, bulk friendly hosting and such go for around 300-400 per month at a minimum... with many a lot more. So not only are you trying to scam people with pyramid schemes and such, you're cheap too. Oh well. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:18 AM Subject: isp > i need a bulk friendli isp for about $30.00 a month > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: trouble ticket system
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:40:08PM -0600, Matt Fair wrote: > Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? > I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > one in the stable release). > Thanks, > Matt PerlDesk, http://perldesk.org looks pretty cool. Haven't had the opportunity to incorporate it into existing systems yet though. > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Nick Jennings -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: isp
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:18:28AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i need a bulk friendli isp for about $30.00 a month Let us know if you find any... so we can blackhole them. :) Mark
Re: isp
Uh... this is interesting... As far as I know, bulk friendly hosting and such go for around 300-400 per month at a minimum... with many a lot more. So not only are you trying to scam people with pyramid schemes and such, you're cheap too. Oh well. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 3:18 AM Subject: isp > i need a bulk friendli isp for about $30.00 a month > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:06:02AM -0500, Chuck Peters wrote: > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? If you plan to monitor your devices with SNMP, USR Total Control devices are known to fall over after attempts to SNMP poll them using large PDUs. PDU sizes < 512 bytes seem to be safe. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpwhaJhsmf50.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: isp
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:18:28AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i need a bulk friendli isp for about $30.00 a month Let us know if you find any... so we can blackhole them. :) Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTTP put
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:29:24 +0100, Markus Garscha writes: >I'm interested in the technology behind this. how does it work? do these >providers use redirectors - but how to configure when every dialup user >gets a dyn. ip??? On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:26:27 +0100, "Frank Thesen (serve-it)" writes: >I can't tell the technique, but I can tell you examples: > >I you go to www.freenet.de or to www.arcor.de to get them as acess >providers. > >If you tell me, what I should do, to figure out the technique, I will do it. Every one of the big access-concentrators can do that. Technically it's a simple filter that is put out of service as soon as it's hit the first time. Redback, Cisco, ... they're all able to do that since, oh, ages.. cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Security Engineer | CoreTec IT-Security \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | T +43 1 503 72 73 | F +43 1 503 72 73 x99 / pgp2pAcoNZaIS.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: HTTP put
I can't tell the technique, but I can tell you examples: I you go to www.freenet.de or to www.arcor.de to get them as acess providers. If you tell me, what I should do, to figure out the technique, I will do it. Frank serve-it Frank Thesen Eichenstrasse 72 a D-54516 Wittlich-Neuerburg Voice: +49 6571 14 79 38 Mobile: +49 1 73 6 75 23 48 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.serve-it.net - Original Message - From: "Markus Garscha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Eyrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Frank Thesen (serve-it)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: HTTP put
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Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:06:02AM -0500, Chuck Peters wrote: > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? If you plan to monitor your devices with SNMP, USR Total Control devices are known to fall over after attempts to SNMP poll them using large PDUs. PDU sizes < 512 bytes seem to be safe. -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton msg04375/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:06, Teun Vink wrote: > > [...] > > Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained > > problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we > > could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes > > every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or > > if our TC is just buggy. > > Sounds like a cooling problem (or maybe a low quality component that can't > deal with heat properly). That could very well be the problem. But it doesn't matter anymore, since we replaced it now. > > > Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced > > features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't > > been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying > > new firmware releases, etc. > > What advanced features are you having problems with? Is it with the RAS2000 > (the Cyclades version of Portslave)? > > We have several problems, all of which have been reported to Cyclades Tech Support. They include: random reboots and dangling MLPPP and MCPPP sessions, and some minor issues, e.g. a part of the SNMP tree is missing. Teun -- Teun Vink - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq: 15001247 - http://teun.moonblade.net
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:06, Teun Vink wrote: > > I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that > > has it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the > > terminal server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > > At the ISP I work at, we used to work with a Total Control for our dial up > customers, and we bought a couple of Cyclades PR4000's to replace the > Total Control. > > Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained > problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we > could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes > every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or > if our TC is just buggy. Sounds like a cooling problem (or maybe a low quality component that can't deal with heat properly). > Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced > features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't > been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying > new firmware releases, etc. What advanced features are you having problems with? Is it with the RAS2000 (the Cyclades version of Portslave)? -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: HTTP put
Hi! I'm interested in the technology behind this. how does it work? do these providers use redirectors - but how to configure when every dialup user gets a dyn. ip??? regards markus * Michael Eyrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-12-06 13:50]: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Frank Thesen (serve-it) wrote: > |Hello, > | > |here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put > |to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there > any > |way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing > automatically, > |and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. > > You can use wget to request a arbitrary page after connection setup > (put the command in a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d) > > Regards, > > M. > > > -- > Michael Eyrich Technische Universität Berlin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Markus Garschaemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hartmannstr. 129fon: 09131/626715 91058 Erlangen fax: +49 89 244356966 pgp-keyid: 0xEE18AF3B --- pgplLIwmAyYml.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HTTP put
On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:29:24 +0100, Markus Garscha writes: >I'm interested in the technology behind this. how does it work? do these >providers use redirectors - but how to configure when every dialup user >gets a dyn. ip??? On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:26:27 +0100, "Frank Thesen (serve-it)" writes: >I can't tell the technique, but I can tell you examples: > >I you go to www.freenet.de or to www.arcor.de to get them as acess >providers. > >If you tell me, what I should do, to figure out the technique, I will do it. Every one of the big access-concentrators can do that. Technically it's a simple filter that is put out of service as soon as it's hit the first time. Redback, Cisco, ... they're all able to do that since, oh, ages.. cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Security Engineer | CoreTec IT-Security \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | T +43 1 503 72 73 | F +43 1 503 72 73 x99 / msg04374/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:06, Chuck Peters wrote: > > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? > > A google search on "USR Total Control" turns up two security issues in the > first page of results... > > > We also offer text/shell dialup access because a few people still use slow > > old machines and a number of seniors just use PINE for email. We can keep > > a few of the old analog lines going for them, but it would be prefable to > > offer both ppp and shell on the same dialup pool like we are now. > > I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that has > it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the terminal > server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > > > We will be using OpenLDAP for authenication. It is a must that we be able > > to control users online time and vary it for a few, volunteers and other > > specified people get extra time while most of the users get a couple of > > hours per day and we limit it during heavy usage. Does anyone have > > comments on that issue? > > There are a number of RADIUS servers that talk LDAP. FreeRADIUS seems pretty > good, I expect it can do what you want. Portslave supports limiting connect > time based on the RADIUS data. > > > CCIL is expecting to spend 5-7K on this so that kind of limits our > > equipment options. Maybe something besides the USR Total Control would be > > a better choice. Any recommendations? > > Cyclades products cost considerably less. See http://www.cyclades.com/ . > > At the ISP I work at, we used to work with a Total Control for our dial up customers, and we bought a couple of Cyclades PR4000's to replace the Total Control. Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or if our TC is just buggy. Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying new firmware releases, etc. Maybe this info helps, Teun -- Teun Vink - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq: 15001247 - http://teun.moonblade.net
Re: HTTP put
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Frank Thesen (serve-it) wrote: |Hello, | |here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put |to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there any |way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing automatically, |and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. You can use wget to request a arbitrary page after connection setup (put the command in a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d) Regards, M. -- Michael Eyrich Technische Universität Berlin
Re: HTTP put
I can't tell the technique, but I can tell you examples: I you go to www.freenet.de or to www.arcor.de to get them as acess providers. If you tell me, what I should do, to figure out the technique, I will do it. Frank serve-it Frank Thesen Eichenstrasse 72 a D-54516 Wittlich-Neuerburg Voice: +49 6571 14 79 38 Mobile: +49 1 73 6 75 23 48 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.serve-it.net - Original Message - From: "Markus Garscha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Eyrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Frank Thesen (serve-it)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: HTTP put -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:06, Chuck Peters wrote: > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? A google search on "USR Total Control" turns up two security issues in the first page of results... > We also offer text/shell dialup access because a few people still use slow > old machines and a number of seniors just use PINE for email. We can keep > a few of the old analog lines going for them, but it would be prefable to > offer both ppp and shell on the same dialup pool like we are now. I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that has it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the terminal server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > We will be using OpenLDAP for authenication. It is a must that we be able > to control users online time and vary it for a few, volunteers and other > specified people get extra time while most of the users get a couple of > hours per day and we limit it during heavy usage. Does anyone have > comments on that issue? There are a number of RADIUS servers that talk LDAP. FreeRADIUS seems pretty good, I expect it can do what you want. Portslave supports limiting connect time based on the RADIUS data. > CCIL is expecting to spend 5-7K on this so that kind of limits our > equipment options. Maybe something besides the USR Total Control would be > a better choice. Any recommendations? Cyclades products cost considerably less. See http://www.cyclades.com/ . -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:06, Teun Vink wrote: > > [...] > > Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained > > problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we > > could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes > > every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or > > if our TC is just buggy. > > Sounds like a cooling problem (or maybe a low quality component that can't > deal with heat properly). That could very well be the problem. But it doesn't matter anymore, since we replaced it now. > > > Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced > > features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't > > been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying > > new firmware releases, etc. > > What advanced features are you having problems with? Is it with the RAS2000 > (the Cyclades version of Portslave)? > > We have several problems, all of which have been reported to Cyclades Tech Support. They include: random reboots and dangling MLPPP and MCPPP sessions, and some minor issues, e.g. a part of the SNMP tree is missing. Teun -- Teun Vink - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq: 15001247 - http://teun.moonblade.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:06, Teun Vink wrote: > > I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that > > has it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the > > terminal server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > > At the ISP I work at, we used to work with a Total Control for our dial up > customers, and we bought a couple of Cyclades PR4000's to replace the > Total Control. > > Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained > problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we > could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes > every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or > if our TC is just buggy. Sounds like a cooling problem (or maybe a low quality component that can't deal with heat properly). > Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced > features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't > been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying > new firmware releases, etc. What advanced features are you having problems with? Is it with the RAS2000 (the Cyclades version of Portslave)? -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTTP put
Hi! I'm interested in the technology behind this. how does it work? do these providers use redirectors - but how to configure when every dialup user gets a dyn. ip??? regards markus * Michael Eyrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001-12-06 13:50]: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Frank Thesen (serve-it) wrote: > |Hello, > | > |here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put > |to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there any > |way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing automatically, > |and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. > > You can use wget to request a arbitrary page after connection setup > (put the command in a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d) > > Regards, > > M. > > > -- > Michael Eyrich Technische Universität Berlin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Markus Garschaemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hartmannstr. 129fon: 09131/626715 91058 Erlangen fax: +49 89 244356966 pgp-keyid: 0xEE18AF3B --- msg04370/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:06, Chuck Peters wrote: > > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? > > A google search on "USR Total Control" turns up two security issues in the > first page of results... > > > We also offer text/shell dialup access because a few people still use slow > > old machines and a number of seniors just use PINE for email. We can keep > > a few of the old analog lines going for them, but it would be prefable to > > offer both ppp and shell on the same dialup pool like we are now. > > I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that has > it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the terminal > server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > > > We will be using OpenLDAP for authenication. It is a must that we be able > > to control users online time and vary it for a few, volunteers and other > > specified people get extra time while most of the users get a couple of > > hours per day and we limit it during heavy usage. Does anyone have > > comments on that issue? > > There are a number of RADIUS servers that talk LDAP. FreeRADIUS seems pretty > good, I expect it can do what you want. Portslave supports limiting connect > time based on the RADIUS data. > > > CCIL is expecting to spend 5-7K on this so that kind of limits our > > equipment options. Maybe something besides the USR Total Control would be > > a better choice. Any recommendations? > > Cyclades products cost considerably less. See http://www.cyclades.com/ . > > At the ISP I work at, we used to work with a Total Control for our dial up customers, and we bought a couple of Cyclades PR4000's to replace the Total Control. Frankly, I'm not too happy about both. The TC still has some unexplained problems, which couldn't be solved by their tech support. The only way we could keep the machine running, was by shutting it down of 30 minutes every night. Of course, I don't know if this is a general TC problem, or if our TC is just buggy. Now, we also have some difficulties with some of the more advanced features of the PR4000. Cyclades Tech Support is quite helpful, but hasn't been able to solve these problems yet, after 4 months of debugging, trying new firmware releases, etc. Maybe this info helps, Teun -- Teun Vink - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - icq: 15001247 - http://teun.moonblade.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP put
Hello, here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there any way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing automatically, and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. Frank serve-itFrank ThesenEichenstrasse 72 aD-54516 Wittlich-Neuerburg Voice: +49 6571 14 79 38Mobile: +49 1 73 6 75 23 48Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]WWW: http://www.serve-it.net
Re: HTTP put
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 11:55:07AM +0100, Frank Thesen (serve-it) wrote: |Hello, | |here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put |to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there any |way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing automatically, |and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. You can use wget to request a arbitrary page after connection setup (put the command in a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d) Regards, M. -- Michael Eyrich Technische Universität Berlin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 56K dialup for CCIL
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:06, Chuck Peters wrote: > One of our Network Admins Eric likes the USR Total Control and says we can > pick up a used one for a good price. Does anyone have experience with > them or comments on the performance and reliablity? A google search on "USR Total Control" turns up two security issues in the first page of results... > We also offer text/shell dialup access because a few people still use slow > old machines and a number of seniors just use PINE for email. We can keep > a few of the old analog lines going for them, but it would be prefable to > offer both ppp and shell on the same dialup pool like we are now. I suggest getting a Cyclades card and running Portslave the machine that has it. It allows PPP, SLIP, telnet, rsh, and ssh connections from the terminal server to a specified machine (controlled by RADIUS). > We will be using OpenLDAP for authenication. It is a must that we be able > to control users online time and vary it for a few, volunteers and other > specified people get extra time while most of the users get a couple of > hours per day and we limit it during heavy usage. Does anyone have > comments on that issue? There are a number of RADIUS servers that talk LDAP. FreeRADIUS seems pretty good, I expect it can do what you want. Portslave supports limiting connect time based on the RADIUS data. > CCIL is expecting to spend 5-7K on this so that kind of limits our > equipment options. Maybe something besides the USR Total Control would be > a better choice. Any recommendations? Cyclades products cost considerably less. See http://www.cyclades.com/ . -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble ticket system
On 06/12/01, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:27:32 +0100, Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >On 03/12/01, Matt Fair wrote: > >> Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? > >> I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > >What do you mean exactly with "doesn't look"? Which featuers are you > >missing? Which features does a trouble ticket system need to have to > >fulfill your requirements? > webrt is - for example - completely missing a decently controllable > e-mail interface. Basically every interaction needs to be done via the Even in the new version webrt2, which is currently packaged (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=114116&repeatmerged=yes)? And I think Jesse, the author would be interested, to hear about such feature request if they are really still missing and not only just undocumented. > web interface, which IMO sucks. I'd prefer using Outlook to that piece > of crap. I positively hate it. Hehe, I know. ;-) > It is also dangerous. A request comes in. Some supporter writes a > snappy comment, Cc:'s sales with the comment. Sales replies back > (probably fully quoting the snappy message), and webrt happily sends > out that e-mail to the original requestor. As far as I know this issue was addressed in webrt2 and the handling of comments and replies was changed. Since I'm not working in an IT department anymore, I'm not able to check webrt2. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 pgp1kEn0QGH1J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail as outgoing mailserver. Regards, Philipp Zitiere Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is > >duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, > xinetd > >(pop3) & bind. I thought to use: > > > >Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): > >sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... > >xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) > >bind 8.2.3 > > I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you > have a very good valid reason to use these. > > Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. > > Greetings > Marc > > -- > -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! > - > Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im > Header > Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 > 32 15 > Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 > 31 29 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Philipp Steinkrüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technik Oberberg Online Tel.: 02261 814240 Fax : 02261 814919 http://www.oberberg.net
Re: trouble ticket system
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:27:32 +0100, Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 03/12/01, Matt Fair wrote: >> Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? >> I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > >What do you mean exactly with "doesn't look"? Which featuers are you >missing? Which features does a trouble ticket system need to have to >fulfill your requirements? webrt is - for example - completely missing a decently controllable e-mail interface. Basically every interaction needs to be done via the web interface, which IMO sucks. I'd prefer using Outlook to that piece of crap. I positively hate it. It is also dangerous. A request comes in. Some supporter writes a snappy comment, Cc:'s sales with the comment. Sales replies back (probably fully quoting the snappy message), and webrt happily sends out that e-mail to the original requestor. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is >duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd >(pop3) & bind. I thought to use: > >Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): >sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... >xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) >bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
HTTP put
Hello, here in germany, almost any provider for internet access sends a http put to get as a first web page his portal. I use Debian 2.2.r4. Is there any way to get this filtered on my machine, since it is dialing automatically, and after each dial, I get the homepage of the provider. Frank serve-itFrank ThesenEichenstrasse 72 aD-54516 Wittlich-Neuerburg Voice: +49 6571 14 79 38Mobile: +49 1 73 6 75 23 48Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]WWW: http://www.serve-it.net
Re: trouble ticket system
On 06/12/01, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:27:32 +0100, Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >On 03/12/01, Matt Fair wrote: > >> Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? > >> I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > >What do you mean exactly with "doesn't look"? Which featuers are you > >missing? Which features does a trouble ticket system need to have to > >fulfill your requirements? > webrt is - for example - completely missing a decently controllable > e-mail interface. Basically every interaction needs to be done via the Even in the new version webrt2, which is currently packaged (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=114116&repeatmerged=yes)? And I think Jesse, the author would be interested, to hear about such feature request if they are really still missing and not only just undocumented. > web interface, which IMO sucks. I'd prefer using Outlook to that piece > of crap. I positively hate it. Hehe, I know. ;-) > It is also dangerous. A request comes in. Some supporter writes a > snappy comment, Cc:'s sales with the comment. Sales replies back > (probably fully quoting the snappy message), and webrt happily sends > out that e-mail to the original requestor. As far as I know this issue was addressed in webrt2 and the handling of comments and replies was changed. Since I'm not working in an IT department anymore, I'm not able to check webrt2. Christian -- Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) 1024/26CC7853 31E6 A8CA 68FC 284F 7D16 63EC A9E6 67FF 26CC 7853 msg04365/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [mailinglists] Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
I suggest DJB's qmail. You can get the Source Tarball at http://cr.yp.to (official) or http://www.qmail.org (unoff). Qmail is the most powerful MTA i ever saw. Various big freemail provider use qmail, like GMX for example and even Microsofts Hotmail Service uses (or is still using) qmail as outgoing mailserver. Regards, Philipp Zitiere Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is > >duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, > xinetd > >(pop3) & bind. I thought to use: > > > >Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): > >sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... > >xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) > >bind 8.2.3 > > I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you > have a very good valid reason to use these. > > Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. > > Greetings > Marc > > -- > -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! > - > Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im > Header > Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 > 32 15 > Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 > 31 29 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Philipp Steinkrüger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technik Oberberg Online Tel.: 02261 814240 Fax : 02261 814919 http://www.oberberg.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble ticket system
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:27:32 +0100, Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 03/12/01, Matt Fair wrote: >> Would would be the best trouble ticket system to use? >> I took a rt, but it doesn't look as good people say it is (at least the > >What do you mean exactly with "doesn't look"? Which featuers are you >missing? Which features does a trouble ticket system need to have to >fulfill your requirements? webrt is - for example - completely missing a decently controllable e-mail interface. Basically every interaction needs to be done via the web interface, which IMO sucks. I'd prefer using Outlook to that piece of crap. I positively hate it. It is also dangerous. A request comes in. Some supporter writes a snappy comment, Cc:'s sales with the comment. Sales replies back (probably fully quoting the snappy message), and webrt happily sends out that e-mail to the original requestor. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux as email & DNS server
On Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:13:27 +0100, "Davi Leal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We are going to use a debian box as email and DNS server. The goal is >duplicate the functionality of a host which is using sendmail 8.8, xinetd >(pop3) & bind. I thought to use: > >Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r3 (potato): >sendmail 8.9.3, postfix, or ... >xinetd (pop3: qpopper 2.53 instead of ipopd 4.7c) >bind 8.2.3 I would like to recommend not using sendmail and qpopper unless you have a very good valid reason to use these. Try using exim, which is Debian's default MTA, and courier POP/IMAP. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
