Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:33:46PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny > > Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why? > > > > > > Why does the implementation language matter? > > Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits) > > http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits (about 128,000 hits) ahh, but http://www.google.com/search?q=mygol+exploits (1 hit) So use mygol instead! This mostly just shows the popularity of the language, which is a good thing. To be slightly more scientific about it, you need to divide the total +exploits hits by the hits. This gives; Perl: 40,000 / 13,500,000 = 0.29 % PHP : 129,000 / 183,000,000 = 0.07% Python : 12,300 / 5,080,000 = 0.24% These figures probably show more about how bad this method of assessing something is than anything else. There are so many factors that could bias these results, they are hardly worth looking at. The Python hits at first glance seem to be badly biased by the "Exploits of Monty Python" all over the web (2,840 sub-hits on "Monty", which brings it down to 0.18%). The PHP and Perl results are probably slightly more indicative, and show PHP as significantly less "exploited" than Perl. It also shows PHP as significantly more popular than Perl. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:33:46PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny > > Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why? > > > > > > Why does the implementation language matter? > > Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits) > > http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits (about 128,000 hits) Windows == 63M Linux == 57M Debian== 16M Microsoft == 40M You can try to prove anything with numbers. :-) -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yahoo! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/
RE: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
> -Original Message- > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny > Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why? > > > Why does the implementation language matter? Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this: http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits) http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits (about 128,000 hits) -Jim P.
TCP/IP DSL Configuration Problem
Dear ISP Group: I am trying to configure my Debian machine to communicate with my ISP via a Netopia DSL router and a static IP address. The relevant documentation I have seen applies to Redhat systems which have a much different configuration file structure. Does anybody know of documentation or examples that are Debian specific for this sort of thing. The significant details are as follows. My hardware components are a Debian LINUX machine with OS release 2.2--potato, a Netopia R45413 DSL router, and a functional Ethernet NIC card. The router does not require PPPOE or any PPP at all on the machine to which it is connected--just TCP and an Ethernet card. I have a static IP address--a public one--but a private IP address must be used to talk to the router. (i.e. The private IP address is configurable.) Communicating with my ISP requires the following additional address components. * IP Gateway Address--this is actually used to talk to the router. * DNS IP addresses--Primary and secondary, Note: There is also a public gateway address but it is not needed. Some more information about what I am doing is as follows. NEEDS _ 1) Run TCP applications--web browser etc.--between my machine and the ISP. (i.e. Fundamental.) 2) Run a standard FTP server on my machine. (i.e. I have my own domaine.) Note: In these cases the Ethernet NIC is directly connected to the router. WISHES __ 1) Run TCP applications with my local machines via a HUB. Note that this works already. I would like to simply be able move the Ethernet cable from the router to the HUB without the necessity of editing configuration files every time I do it. (i.e. Very desirable.) 2) (i.e. Not Critical.) The ability to run applications as in 1 above without the necessity to move the Ethernet cable around. In other words, the HUB is plugged into the router instead of the router. However, only the machine with the FTP server communicates with the outside world via the router. Best Regards, Paul Romero -- Paul Romero, Data Communications Engineer RCOM Communications Software 8 Eastwood Court Oakland, CA 94611 Phone/Fax: (510)339-2628 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, 2003-05-06 at 20:13, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: > > SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks. > > > > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. > > Why does the implementation language matter? Do you care if your > system binaries are written in C vs C++? > > I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like > that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it > matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to > work? > I like it when I can go and have a look in the code and understand what is being said. I don't speak X, I do speak Y. So I would prefer(!) my app. of choice to be written in Y. tinus.
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
PHP has some problems, at least in the SquirrelMail arena. First I want to say I use it, like it, and my clients like it. But I've had to create some work-arounds. The one that is most striking is that it will not easily download attachments of any great size. Some of my clients have sent me attachments of up to 6M, and SquirrelMail will not handle that. It seems the memory for a PHP app must be set aside before it is loaded into Apache. I assume there is a reason such as not allowing it to break as easily, but SquirrelMail out of the package won't handle attachments much larger than 1.5M. Since it is easier to just mime decode the stupid things than to talk someone through FTP (some of my clients are, shall we say, less than technically apt), I either go to the server and manually decode it, or use Netscrape mail to fetch it off the server (then ask the client not to do that again). Increasing the amount of memory in the PHP config file did not help (I set aside 64M and still couldn't download it). Also, I have had SquirrelMail break on upgrades due to differences in the configuration format. This happened in testing, so is probably not a big problem (I run testing on my production server, yes, I know). It has (appearantly permenantly) lost the themes. I'd suggest installing SquirrelMail, but be prepared to get your hands dirty a little. Great little program and there are tons of add-on modules you can, but don't have to, install. I especially like the fortune module. :) Perl vs PHP? I'm a Perl programmer, and have a bias. But, it seems PHP is more prone to breaking. However, whether it is a problem with the language or a problem with the type of programmers using it, I don't know. VisualBasic is actually a pretty good language, but the programmers who use it are generally not professionals or experienced, so you get lower quality software as a result. SquirrelMail is, as far as I've seen, done by some programmers who know what they are doing, and it is pretty stable. Rod > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: >> >> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like >> that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it >> matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to >> work? >> > > I just think that's because he like perl and is more confortable with > perl than php so he prefer to have perl softwares... of course, it's not > really interesting to have bash written in perl, but a webmail is often > modified for own purpose so a known (and easy for you) language could be > one think to consider in such a choice. > > That's my analyze, and I agree with me ;-) > > -- > Emmanuel Lacour Easter-eggs > 44-46 rue de l'Ouest - 75014 Paris - France - Métro Gaité > Phone: +33 (0) 1 43 35 00 37- Fax: +33 (0) 1 41 35 00 76 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -http://www.easter-eggs.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Ameobit, noun- Ameoba/Rabbit cross. It can multiply and divide simultaneously.
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > > I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like > that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it > matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to > work? > I just think that's because he like perl and is more confortable with perl than php so he prefer to have perl softwares... of course, it's not really interesting to have bash written in perl, but a webmail is often modified for own purpose so a known (and easy for you) language could be one think to consider in such a choice. That's my analyze, and I agree with me ;-) -- Emmanuel Lacour Easter-eggs 44-46 rue de l'Ouest - 75014 Paris - France - Métro Gaité Phone: +33 (0) 1 43 35 00 37- Fax: +33 (0) 1 41 35 00 76 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -http://www.easter-eggs.com
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: > > SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks. > > > > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. > > Why does the implementation language matter? Do you care if your > system binaries are written in C vs C++? > > I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like > that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it > matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to > work? I'm not the OP, but I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that it's far more likely that you're going to tweak a web-app than some "system binary". Therefore, implementation does matter. Also, many people are already running mod_perl; it's nicer to leverage that than to configure additional modules. In my expereince, mod_perl + apache interaction is more stable than PHP + apache, especially across upgrades. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] prepBut nI vrbLike adjHungarian! qWhat's artThe adjBig nProblem? -- alec flett @netscape
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: >> SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks. >> >> It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. > > Why does the implementation language matter? Do you care if your > system binaries are written in C vs C++? Yes. Certainly, I care whether they're written in a systems programming language (C, C++), a good stable interpreted language (Python, Perl), or somebody's favorite toy language with semantics resembling a language best left on the dustheap of the eighties (Copy on read? What were they thinking?). I'd rather have an SSH server written in a garbage-collected language with mandatory bounds checking, for example: on those machines which aren't terminal servers, OpenSSH's has about ten times as much code as I'd like. > I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like > that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it > matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to > work? Yes. PHP's not Ultimate Evil, it's just kind of chintzy: * It's a special-purpose language, but used to write large applications. General purpose languages tend to pick up more mindshare, attract better programmers, and pick up more eyeballs skimming for bugs. Their code's more maintainable, too. * The language was never planned. PHP is still at the stage Perl was with Perl 4: a bunch of Neat Features without any idea of what happens when you use them all at once. * Because of its niche, it picks up an unusually high proportion of poor programmers. This doesn't affect any *particular* program -- I use SquirrelMail myself, and love it -- it's just that "PHP" is as much of a warning sign to me when looking at a programmer's resume as seeing one published piece of software, an IRC client. * It's very easy to use PHP insecurely. This is compounded by the PHP engine's security record. So what does this mean for you, as an ISP considering two web-interface applications, one written in PHP, and the other in Perl (say, with Mason)? You have reason to be more nervous about the machine the PHP app is on, and you'll have to search more widely and examine candidates more closely when finding maintenance programmers. -Brian -- Brian T. Sniffen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.evenmere.org/~bts/
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
It's emphasised bigotry. On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, The voices made Jeremy Zawodny say: > On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: > > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. > > Why does the implementation language matter? Basically because I don't like PHP and I like (and more importantly - know) Perl. > Do you care if your system binaries are written in C vs C++? No, but 1) they're compiled languages and 2) they're not that dissimilar (and I know them both :-) > I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like > that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it > matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to > work? Though yes, I am trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to work. I don't know why, and it could quite easily just be me, but I've had a lot of issues with getting PHP sites to work (eg. imp and phpGW) At the end of the day, though, PHP vs Perl (vs Python), VI vs Emacs, C vs C++, BSD vs Linux, etc., etc., etc. They're all the same - boring. As a geek I have a million and one better things to do than argue why one tool is better than another. I have my opinions, but they're mine and not anyone elses. I do, however, find it rather amusing to see how easily my fellow geeks can be reduced to squabbling children. Not in this forum, though. Nosir. :-) Matthew -- GIT/CM d+(-) s++:- a-->? C UL$ P+++> L++> E>++ W--$ N o? K++ w--- O-- M V? PS+>+++ PE-- Y+>++ PGP++@ t+ 5- X- R tv b+++> DI++ D++ G e(*) h!>- r--- y->+++
Re: SquirrelMail, Postfix, Mailutils-imap4d, and permissions problems in Stable.
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:20:46PM -0700, The voices made Splash Tekalal say: > ERROR : Could not complete request. > Query:COPY 1:1 "INBOX.Trash" > Reason Given: [TRYCREATE] failed This could well be a simple configuration option. By default squirrel mail moves mail to the Trash folder rather than deleting it outright, and it looks like your mail server is denying permission to create such a folder (of course it could be that it just can't write to it). Go through squirrel's conf.pl and ensure that you have all the server options set correctly (eg. root folder). Also I think the move/delete thing is optional anyway, in which case you can probably get away with just changing that. Matthew -- GIT/CM d+(-) s++:- a-->? C UL$ P+++> L++> E>++ W--$ N o? K++ w--- O-- M V? PS+>+++ PE-- Y+>++ PGP++@ t+ 5- X- R tv b+++> DI++ D++ G e(*) h!>- r--- y->+++
udp v4 hw csum failure
Have any of you seen this error before( kernel: udp v4 hw csum failure)? I can't seem to figure out what is causing this error but it occurs about every hour or so. This is on kernel 2.4.20 with an e100 intel driver compiled in on a debian woody system. Thanks
Re: SquirrelMail, Postfix, Mailutils-imap4d, and permissions problems in Stable.
I run Postfix MTA with Courier IMAP, Squirrel Mail. Do you have Trash mailbox for that user ? It looks like Squirrel mail is doing a copy move. Copy to Trash. Delete mail message. >On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 01:20:46PM -0700, Splash Tekalal wrote: >I'm currently running Debian Stable using postfix for my MTA, >mailutils-imap4d as my IMAP server, and SquirrelMail for my webmail >client.. Everything on the server works fine untill a user tries to delete >mail in SquirrelMail.. They can delete it fine in Pine.. But the following >error pops up.. >ERROR : Could not complete request. >Query:COPY 1:1 "INBOX.Trash" >Reason Given: [TRYCREATE] failed >Any suggestions? If it helps, I'm also running Apache as a non-standard >user.. It's running as dchaosnet.www-data instead of www-data.www-data
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote: > SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks. > > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. Why does the implementation language matter? Do you care if your system binaries are written in C vs C++? I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like that--especially in this sort of context. Can you clarify why it matters? Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to work? Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Perl, Web, MySQL, Linux Magazine, Yahoo! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://jeremy.zawodny.com/
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
On Tue, 6 May 2003, Dominik Schulz wrote: >I need an Webmail that works with Maildir or if this isn't possible with >IMAP. IMP is a bit to overloaded in my opinion. have you tried sqwebmail? .. i'm very happy with it!.. it accesses the maildirs directly, so you don't need any pop or imap server. (i use it with qmail & vpopmail) greets Martin -- Martin Kos Handy +41-76-384-93-33 http://kos.li/ICQ# 13556143Fax +49-89-244-323-681 Say NO to HTML in mail Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux. See http://www.debian.org/
SquirrelMail, Postfix, Mailutils-imap4d, and permissions problems in Stable.
I'm currently running Debian Stable using postfix for my MTA, mailutils-imap4d as my IMAP server, and SquirrelMail for my webmail client.. Everything on the server works fine untill a user tries to delete mail in SquirrelMail.. They can delete it fine in Pine.. But the following error pops up.. ERROR : Could not complete request. Query:COPY 1:1 "INBOX.Trash" Reason Given: [TRYCREATE] failed Any suggestions? If it helps, I'm also running Apache as a non-standard user.. It's running as dchaosnet.www-data instead of www-data.www-data Thanks! -Splash
Re: daily apache-ssl reload is causing probs (FIXED)
Howdy folks, Well, I did some digging and found some answers. I'm posting my solution here in the event that others might find it useful. first of all, there's a bug in woody's logrotate package. Logrotate will (might?) issue the postrotate command from any logrotate config (be it daily, weekly or monthly) on a daily basis. So, if you only expect apache-ssl to get restarted (apache-sslctl restart or /etc/init.d/apache-ssl restart) monthly with your monthly logrotate config, think again. it's probably happening every night. Second, I figured out that although the debian apache-ssl script (/etc/init.d/apache-ssl) would cause apache-ssl to choke on a reload, using 'apache-sslctl graceful' which has the same effect of sending a SIGUSR1 to the apache-ssl parent process does not appear to have the same problem. So far I've gone through several weeks of daily apache-sslctl graceful's and one monthly logrotate without a single problem with apache-ssl. so, to be clear, all I did was replace /etc/init.d/apache-ssl reload with /usr/sbin/apache-sslctl graceful in the postrotate command in my logrotate config for apache-ssl. I haven't investigated exactly why this change works, but I know that it does, most likely. I won't really be sure that it's trouble free until it's been up for several months without incident, but after going down every couple days, I feel like a few weeks is a pretty good indication that the problem has been resolved. hope someone finds this useful. Dave On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:56:45AM -0600 or thereabouts, David Wilk wrote: > Hello all, > > I think I have found that an /etc/init.d/apache-ssl restart is the only > way to properly restart apache-ssl after a logrotation. However, I've > had apache-ssl die two days in a row, and the culprit appears to be some > process that is sending apache-ssl a SIGUSR1 (what apache-ssl reload or > httpsdctl graceful issues). > > Here's the log: > > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:18 2003] [notice] SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful > restart > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:18 2003] /usr/lib/apache-ssl/gcache started > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:19 2003] [error] (2)No such file or directory: > mod_mime_magic: ca > n't read magic file /etc/apache-ssl/share/magic > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:19 2003] [notice] Apache/1.3.26 Ben-SSL/1.48 (Unix) > Debian GNU/Li > nux PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 configured -- resuming normal operations > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:19 2003] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: > /usr/lib/apa > che-ssl/suexec) > [Mon Apr 14 03:00:19 2003] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: > sysvsem) > > the problem is I don't know what could possibly be issueing this SIGUSR1 > signal to apache-ssl every morning at the exact same time that cron runs > /etc/cron.daily. I've checked all my cron jobs and can't seem to find > the culprit. > > if anyone has any ideas, I'd be grateful. > > thanks, > Dave > -- > *** > David Wilk > System Administrator > Community Internet Access, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- *** David Wilk System Administrator Community Internet Access, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE Hard Drive maintenance
This electronic message is not binding on its sender nor on Cetrel S.C. Any use of information of this mail except the use by the addressee within his or her business relation with Cetrel is strictly forbidden CETREL S.C. L-2956 Luxembourg; Tel: 00352 35566-1; http://www.cetrel.lu === Sorry for replying to such old mails, but I'm cleaning my mailboxes :-) Lauchlin Wilkinson wrote: > I was wondering what most people on the list did when it came to keeping > tabs on the health of IDE hard drives? I have a server in a remote > location that I fear has one HD that is going flaky. Is there a way of > doing a bad block scan on a mounted partition safely or am I asking the > impossible. For monitoring, use SMART as in smartmontools (it's in unstable, but you can recompile easily for stable). It's a more advanced version of smartsuite in stable. Some things to watch out for: - enable SMART on your drives. Some may have it disabled by default. - enable automatic offline tests. These are non-destructive and non-captive, i.e. they can run in the background. On not-too-busy servers, this load on the disk should not be a problem. YMMV. Don't know whether it's the same for all disks, but I have one at home that does tests every 4 hours. - configure smartd to send email on problems. - have a watch on the SMART error log on the drives. If something apears in the logs, you will also see the block address in there, but it might not be obvious to associate that to a filesystem or devic block as you see it 'from the outisde'. You can run badblocks to find that info. Also be carefull when translating block numbers. badblocks will report filesystem blocks (thei size is in the superblock), the kernel log will show device blocks (i.e. 512-byte blocks), and something else I forget will show 1K blocks. Just be sure you get it right A trick to make disks with isolated read errors behave again (although you shouldn't trust them too much important data...) is to _write_ to those blocks. This will make the drive controller remap those bad blocks to good spare blocks. Bingo, errors disappeared. Until the next one appears :-) Cheers Michel -- Michel Lanners | "Being able to break security PRO-SSC | doesn't make you a hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED]| more than being able to hotwire cars Cetrel S.C. | makes you an automotive engineer." 10, Parc d'Activite Syrdall | L-5365 Munsbach | Eric S. Raymond
RE: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
Due to customers like the interface, we run @Mail. See
http://www.webbasedemail.com
It's commercial though.
Dee
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From: Tomàs Núñez Lirola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:25 AM
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
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Thanks for the info.
Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use
it?
However... Is there any better web based mail?
Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
El Domingo, 20 de Abril de 2003 18:41, Ola Lundqvist escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
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> Hello
>
> The imp debian package is depricated. You should really use the
> imp3 packages from sarge. The support for imp2 (imp package) stopped
> upstream over a year ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> // Ola (The imp package maintainer, but not imp3 :)
>
> > Hi
> > I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
> > When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of
> > the full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared
> > something like that:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I looked at the database and I found this "<" in the "Full Name" field.
I
> > looked where this string was added to the database and I found this
> > function ___
> > if (isset($fullname) && ($fullname != $old_fullname)) {
> > // filter for existing quotes
> > if (substr($fullname, 0, 1) == '"' && substr($fullname, -1) == '"')
{
> > $fullname = substr($fullname, 1, -1);
> > }
> > // filter for illegal characters
> > $quoted = imap_rfc822_write_address('', '', $fullname);
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > if (!(imp_set_fullname(addslashes($quoted), $imp->user,
> > $imp->server))) { $errormsg .= $lang->fullname_error; $updated = false;
> > }
> > }
> > ___
> >
> > I don't know a lot about PHP, so I don't fully understand this function,
> > but I changed the 8th line
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > changing the -4 for a -5
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-5);
> >
> > and now it works perfectly (I think).
> >
> > My questions are:
> > Anyone faced this problem before? (In other words, is this a real bug or
> > it's only on my IMP?)
> > Should I inform IMP Debian package mantainer? Or IMP coders?
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Re: Apache: one or more instances
El lun, 05 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:00, Eduard Ballester escribió: > hi > I have an Apache with several VirtualHost and now I have a doubt. > Apache is ready to scale in a multiple virtual host environments without problems. Of course, if you can separate too apache's based on function (ssl vs non-ssl), as the article pointed by Jeremy's post suggests, its better to have two or more instances (or one for each porttake a java application server in port 8081, an ssl server in 443, a soap server in 8082, a normal https server in port 80)... its a more scalable setup all of the apache's would have the same number of virtualhosts (should all the vhosts need all the functionality). Ive seen apache's with 500, normal, mysql enabled, dynamic sites virtual hosts no-problem.no hay problema ke ...:=) Course, this all depends on how well do you know apache and its scalability model to make it scale. Meaning, it depends in how well can you tune apache and how many vhosts we are talking about, what will they run...etc. > I don't know if is better run all vh in a single instance or use two or > more Apaches in different path. I use IP-based and Port-based vhost NO > Name-based (of course). > Where I can find information or server benchmark for measuring the > performance of Apache (mutli-vhost) > > Thanks >
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks. It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works. I never could get imp to work properly, but I tried squirrel and eventually just forgot about imp & horde. The communication with the server is over the IMAP protocol, so it doesn't actually matter which mail store format you use (or which IMAP server, for that matter, you could probably use exchange if it's got around to implementing IMAP properly yet). Try it out. I like it, my customers like it, and it rocks. Matthew King -- GIT/CM d+(-) s++:- a-->? C UL$ P+++> L++> E>++ W--$ N o? K++ w--- O-- M V? PS+>+++ PE-- Y+>++ PGP++@ t+ 5- X- R tv b+++> DI++ D++ G e(*) h!>- r--- y->+++
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
Tomàs Núñez Lirola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 6 May 2003 11:24:55 +0200: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks for the info. > Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use > it? > However... Is there any better web based mail? > Which webmail do you prefer? Why? You don't need no package for IMP. Just download and install it from the Homepage (horde.org). It won't mess up your system because it's only PHP. I'm not really happy with it but it's the only webmail that works with my configuration and complies with my requirements (free, Maildir/IMAP support). If anybody has a suggestion what to use I'd be happy to hear your comments. I need an Webmail that works with Maildir or if this isn't possible with IMAP. IMP is a bit to overloaded in my opinion. Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards Dominik Schulz
Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
Hi, I use Squirrelmail from Woody as my prefered webmail. It's fast, easy to administer, nice, and with a lot of plugins. It handles a lot of imap4 folders (maildirs) with an average of 2000 mails per folder at home, with 5 users, in a P233MMX with 32 megs of RAM, and it's FAST. I have tried others, but with less features or ugly interfaces... Give it a try: http://www.squirrelmail.org Hope this help, Albert Tomàs Núñez Lirola dijo: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks for the info. > Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to > use it? > However... Is there any better web based mail? > Which webmail do you prefer? Why? > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+t39qGOU6HQZ81TcRAqXVAKCsGcUrtlRAk9F/b8Awcbf87HdfiACeNa4b > PGIiLNSdzEsOVBral9M8Vvk=OSyt > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Albert Teixidó Pub PGP key 0x0E16E76 Albert Teixidó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> at pgp.rediris.es
Re: Debain installed exim BIG TROUBLE
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:17AM +0200, I. Forbes wrote: > On 5 May 2003 at 16:11, Emmanuel Lacour wrote: > > > On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 03:27:32PM +0200, Gregory Machin wrote: > > > > where does debian launch exim from cause when i telnet in exim is running > > > but not visable under ps -ef ?? > > > Because by default, exim is running in standalone under debian. Just run > > > > update-inetd --disable smtp > > /etc/init.d/exim start > > Having done this on a few boxes, I noted one slight problem with the > the permissions of files in /var/spool/exim/db/. > > When exim is running as a daemon, these should be owner "mail", > group "mail". When it is running from inetd they seem to be have > owner "root". When you change from inetd to daemon the old files > hang around with root ownership and do not get deleted or updated. I'found this bug too some time ago on a woody box, but I didn't understand why. Now, I know ;-) > Perhaps this should be submitted as a bug. > Maybe, a simple check in the init.d file to cleanup owners.. -- Emmanuel Lacour Easter-eggs 44-46 rue de l'Ouest - 75014 Paris - France - Métro Gaité Phone: +33 (0) 1 43 35 00 37- Fax: +33 (0) 1 41 35 00 76 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -http://www.easter-eggs.com
Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
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Thanks for the info.
Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use
it?
However... Is there any better web based mail?
Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
El Domingo, 20 de Abril de 2003 18:41, Ola Lundqvist escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
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> Hello
>
> The imp debian package is depricated. You should really use the
> imp3 packages from sarge. The support for imp2 (imp package) stopped
> upstream over a year ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> // Ola (The imp package maintainer, but not imp3 :)
>
> > Hi
> > I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
> > When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of
> > the full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared
> > something like that:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I looked at the database and I found this "<" in the "Full Name" field. I
> > looked where this string was added to the database and I found this
> > function ___
> > if (isset($fullname) && ($fullname != $old_fullname)) {
> > // filter for existing quotes
> > if (substr($fullname, 0, 1) == '"' && substr($fullname, -1) == '"') {
> > $fullname = substr($fullname, 1, -1);
> > }
> > // filter for illegal characters
> > $quoted = imap_rfc822_write_address('', '', $fullname);
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > if (!(imp_set_fullname(addslashes($quoted), $imp->user,
> > $imp->server))) { $errormsg .= $lang->fullname_error; $updated = false;
> > }
> > }
> > ___
> >
> > I don't know a lot about PHP, so I don't fully understand this function,
> > but I changed the 8th line
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > changing the -4 for a -5
> > $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-5);
> >
> > and now it works perfectly (I think).
> >
> > My questions are:
> > Anyone faced this problem before? (In other words, is this a real bug or
> > it's only on my IMP?)
> > Should I inform IMP Debian package mantainer? Or IMP coders?
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Re: Debain installed exim BIG TROUBLE
On 5 May 2003 at 16:11, Emmanuel Lacour wrote: > On Mon, May 05, 2003 at 03:27:32PM +0200, Gregory Machin wrote: > > where does debian launch exim from cause when i telnet in exim is running > > but not visable under ps -ef ?? > Because by default, exim is running in standalone under debian. Just run > > update-inetd --disable smtp > /etc/init.d/exim start Having done this on a few boxes, I noted one slight problem with the the permissions of files in /var/spool/exim/db/. When exim is running as a daemon, these should be owner "mail", group "mail". When it is running from inetd they seem to be have owner "root". When you change from inetd to daemon the old files hang around with root ownership and do not get deleted or updated. This does not stop exim from working, but it could in theory slow things down. The db files are "hint" files designed to improve performance. Without them exim reverts to a "fail safe" mode. If they have the wrong permissions, stop exim, delete the contents of /var/spool/exim/db/ and restart exim. The db files will be rebuilt automatically with the correct ownership. Perhaps this should be submitted as a bug. Ian - Ian Forbes ZSD http://www.zsd.co.za Office: +27 21 683-1388 Fax: +27 21 674-1106 Snail Mail: P.O. Box 46827, Glosderry, 7702, South Africa -
