RE: Apache clustering w/ load balancing and failover

2003-09-20 Thread Thomas Lamy
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> Am 2003-09-17 01:49:31, schrieb Shri Shrikumar:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am looking to implement an Apache cluster with Load Balancing and
> >failover and after going through several options, the only 
> one that is
> >not too complex and does everything that I need seems to be pen
> 
> Why not using 'roundrobin' ???
> 
> Install a couple of Web-Servers, give each Server an IP and 
> then setup for each Server a A-Record on your DNS-Server 
> pointing to the same hostname.
> 
Because this is only "poor man's load balancing". You maybe get (more or
less) equal load on rr'ed servers, but you can't fix your DNS servers (and
every other one caching your results) to not give out the A record of a
failed server.

It really comes donw to using LVS/keepalived or pen (I didn't even know it
exists before this discussion), or an expensive black-box solution (From F5,
Cisco, ).

Thomas


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Re: Apache clustering w/ load balancing and failover

2003-09-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2003-09-17 01:49:31, schrieb Shri Shrikumar:
>Hi,
>
>I am looking to implement an Apache cluster with Load Balancing and
>failover and after going through several options, the only one that is
>not too complex and does everything that I need seems to be pen

Why not using 'roundrobin' ???

Install a couple of Web-Servers, give each Server an IP and 
then setup for each Server a A-Record on your DNS-Server 
pointing to the same hostname.

Have a nice evening
Michelle

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Re: Of SANS and IOS

2003-09-20 Thread Andrew Miehs
Normally when you buy expensive hardware the saleman should come to 
you. :-)

Had a quick look in google for IOs and it seems that it is also refered 
to as IOPs
Input Output Per second... And seems to refer to the controller, and 
not the disks.

And after my quick look, the where talking about cached 20,000 - 
150,000 per second.
(Very Very small emc from dell)...

Regards

Andrew

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 08:37AM, Russell Coker wrote:

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:08, Alex Borges wrote:
Anyone knows What The FARKS is that IOs unit the HP SAN folk keep
talking about? Like in, yeah, this thing can take 2000 IOS per second.
How many bytes is an IOs supposed to be? An IO==Device blocksize or 
WTF?
When buying serious hardware the vendor is usually happy to allow you 
to test
it out before you buy.  They should have some sort of demo-room in the
nearest major city where you can plug in your own server and test it 
out.


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Re: Of SANS and IOS

2003-09-20 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:08, Alex Borges wrote:
> Anyone knows What The FARKS is that IOs unit the HP SAN folk keep
> talking about? Like in, yeah, this thing can take 2000 IOS per second.
> How many bytes is an IOs supposed to be? An IO==Device blocksize or WTF?

For serious disk storage the bottleneck is usually seeks not amount of data 
transfer.  So a device that can do 2000 seeks per second is reasonably fast.

> Treacherous salesmen everywhere!

Why not just plug one in and see how it goes?

When buying serious hardware the vendor is usually happy to allow you to test 
it out before you buy.  They should have some sort of demo-room in the 
nearest major city where you can plug in your own server and test it out.

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