Re: splitting a subnet in an odd way

2003-09-27 Thread Leonardo Boselli
You forget one thing: there are 10 other machines (addresses 3 to 13) 
that need not to be firewalled, and must be accessible from ANY pother 
ost either internally and externally, without passing the FW.
The second group really is not a problem, since are just virtual 
addresses for a machine in the first group, that self-firewall !
However user in the third, internal group should access these machines 
direclty.
About proxy-arping 230 machines: what commands would you suggest 
for dcoing that , the way i used for a small group did havoc on some 
network monitoring tools !

Il 26 Sep 2003 alle 9:25 Fraser Campbell immise in rete

 On Wednesday 24 September 2003 10:47, Leonardo Boselli wrote:
 
  I have a /24 subnet.
  .1 is the gateway and almost all IP from 2 to 254 are occupied.
  I would like to split the host in three groups:
  12 that can have full access, 12 thought one firewall and the other 205
  throught a second firewall.
  I cannot chanmge the number of some machines, so the only option is
  that the first 12 and the two firewalls are .2 to .14
  the second group is .18 to .29 and the third vould keep is present
  numbers between .36 and .254.
 
 Why not have a single firewall?  If you want to have two firewalls make an HA 
 cluster out of them.  If you are interested in physically separating the 
 subnets then I would just put extra interfaces on the firewall (basically 
 multiple DMZs).
 
 - assume subnet is 1.1.1.0/24
 - all machines behind firewall get 1.1.1.0/24 subnet 
 - firewall gets 1.1.1.2/24 assigned to it's external interface (side facing
   router)
 - firewall does proxy arp for all IPs in the subnet on it's external interface
 - if you like, firewall does proxy arp for 1.1.1.1 on it's internal interface
   and then machines shouldn't even have to change their gateway
 - firewall rules are written as you require.  Even though the subnet
   1.1.1.0/28 doesn't really exist you can write your firewall rules in that
   way
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Re: splitting a subnet in an odd way

2003-09-27 Thread Peter Billson
Leonardo,
  I may not exactly understand what you are trying to do but if the only
thing you are trying to accomplish is firewalling the machines
differently, couldn't you just:

  1) assign them different gateways. The open machines would use the
real gateway. The other two groups would use the trusted side of the
two firewalls as gateways. The firewalls would use your real gateway
to forward the packets to/from the world.

The two firewalls could be one Linux box with a couple interfaces
and appropriate firewall rules.



  2) just write the firewall rules to do what you want. Why not just
write your firewall rules to do what you want? Pass IPs x to y without
filtering, etc., etc. This seems most straight forward.

Pete
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  On Wednesday 24 September 2003 10:47, Leonardo Boselli wrote:
 
   I have a /24 subnet.
   .1 is the gateway and almost all IP from 2 to 254 are occupied.
   I would like to split the host in three groups:
   12 that can have full access, 12 thought one firewall and the other 205
   throught a second firewall.
   I cannot chanmge the number of some machines, so the only option is
   that the first 12 and the two firewalls are .2 to .14
   the second group is .18 to .29 and the third vould keep is present
   numbers between .36 and .254.


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Re: proftpd exploit

2003-09-27 Thread Fraser Campbell
On Friday 26 September 2003 09:33, mimo wrote:

 I have just discovered this exploit report but couldn't find anything
 about other distros than Slackware
 http://proftpd.linux.co.uk/index.html
 Does any body know if the debian version is affected too?

You should always take a look at bug reports if you're worried about a 
security issue.  Here's the bug report on this for Debian:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=212416

According to the bug report, woody is not vulnerable.  ISS says that versions 
1.2.7 through 1.2.9rc2 (and possibly versions prior to 1.2.7) are vulnerable.  
I suspect that someone somewhere has since tested ealier versions (woody runs 
a patched 1.2.4) and decided that those versions are not vulnerable.  It 
would be nice if the bug report noted on what evidence stable is not 
affected.

 All I could think of for the moment was disabling donwloading via FTP
 globally. Any ideas?

Yes it sounds like denying either uploads or downloads would have saved you.

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