Re: manual update of apt database (was Best way to update perl on Woody Stable?)

2003-10-10 Thread charlie derr
Rod Rodolico wrote:

or

3. (if you have a lot of time on your hands)

  download the debianised source for perl 5.8 from unstable and
  recompile it on your woody system. do the same for any module
  packages that you need. i.e. backport the new perl to the old debian.
  a lot of people recommend this method. personally, i find it to be
  far too time consuming, for very little benefit. far easier (and much
  better tested) to just run unstable.
   

Back to my original question. At this point, how do you tell apt that the package is
installed. 

If i'm understanding the question correctly, you would simply do:

# echo perl hold | dpkg --set-selections

(and repeat the command for all the specific packages (deb files) you've 
built/installed)

   good luck,
  ~c
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Re: manual update of apt database (was Best way to update perl on Woody Stable?)

2003-10-10 Thread Lance Levsen
 other 10%, I download source and install. So, is there a way to manually update the 
 apt
 database to tell it a package is installed. The reason I use Debian is because, for 
 most of my

 Back to my original question. At this point, how do you tell apt that the package is
 installed. I assume I can find out by RTFM'ing, but since you suggested it, maybe 
 you know.

 Rod

The equivs deb. Nice little piece. I use it for telling Deb that my Sun
1.4 JDK Provides: java-compiler, java-virtual-machine, java2-runtime,
java2-compiler. This makes all the java stuff that is required by the
various debs go away.

You can also use it to setup dependancy info. So if you know all the
debs you need for x installation. Set it up, install and walk away. Come
back and your server is installed.

Course, for that I tend to prefer:
$: dpkg --set-selections  deb.txt  dpkg --pending -i
 
The only drag is that I don't run a local repository, so the package, in
my case, lancejvm is listed as obsolete/local so you have to remember
not to uninstall it.

HTH.

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Re: two ethernet ports on one PCI NIC?

2003-10-10 Thread Nicolas Bougues
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 09:29:54AM +1300, Jones, Steven wrote:
 Think you will have to go to a 4 port NIC, Im not aware of a 2 port one, 
 
 I know of 2 made but I have not tried either, one is a dlink unit
 (the other

We have been using the quad port DLINK in various setups for several
years. They are based on the Tulip chipset, and work very well. And
not too expensive.

Beware : there are network boards with and integrated switch,
too. They will look almost the same, with 4 ports. But they are really
a single port + a switch, not four ports.

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Re: specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 10, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The method in question has never taken off because of lack of application 
 support.  If we make all mail servers in Debian support it then that could be 
 what is needed to make it a success.  I would be happy to devote some coding 
 time to this if it can result in a net reduction of SPAM.
Sadly it's more complex than this.
Protocols like SPF (http://spf.pobox.com/, which I believe is the best
of them) did not take off because of multiple reasons. If you are
seriously interested in this then I suggest you look at the past
threads on SPAM-L and the other appropriate forums.

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Re: Best way to update perl on Woody Stable ?

2003-10-10 Thread Dale E Martin
 3. (if you have a lot of time on your hands)
 
download the debianised source for perl 5.8 from unstable and
recompile it on your woody system. do the same for any module
packages that you need. i.e. backport the new perl to the old debian.
 
a lot of people recommend this method. personally, i find it to be
far too time consuming, for very little benefit. far easier (and much
better tested) to just run unstable.

FWIW, this is the method I generally use and don't find it to be that hard.
On the other hand, I recently tried this with perl 5.8.x from unstable
(probably about two weeks ago) and it would not build under woody - it kept
failing one of its test cases and bombing out.

I'd say about 50-75% of packages backport easily.  The rest can be more
involved.  In the case of perl two weeks ago, I didn't absolutely need it
so I ended up sticking with the woody version.  I did look at the backports
collections and did not see a backport around anywhere.

Take care,
 Dale
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a new network and a newbie admin

2003-10-10 Thread Petrisor Marian


Hello, I have just been nominated in charge for the network inside the student block I 
live in. My problem is the server that I will have to order, as the network is not 
made yet.

The network will have about 130 computers (will not function all at the same time) 
that will be connected as in the following figure:


  
   _____S___ISP
___|__
  __||  
__|__ 
| | | | | | |   
p p p p p p p

each p is a pc, the S is the server

Because of the price we had to use only 8 port switches... =(

My questions are : what should I do to ensure that each computer in the lan will 
communicate at a very good transfer rate with other lan PCs and have a good transfer 
rate for browsing the internet?

What would you recommend as proxy software?
I want to give access only to PCs that are registered in a way. How should I do that? 
DHCP + arp for IPs and permit only registered addresses (IP -MAC pair is registered) ?

Would you recommend anything else?

I would like to limit the transfers on certain types of files (.avi, .mpg, .mp3 ...) 
in order to ensure browsing not downloading... Is squid the solution?


Is there a software that would permit some kind of download registering list? 
Picture this, one user _really_ wants a song to be downloaded. He registers himself in 
the list and when the traffic is low the server starts the download and stores the 
file on the hdd. The place where is put is accessible through ftp and the user can 
copy it at a later time.

Thank you!

Petrisor Eddy Marian


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Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

2003-10-10 Thread Jody Grafals
Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

Is it possible to somehow use my Debian Linux server as a tool to 
download pop mail from a remote server then forward it to my  local mail 
server (Exchange), I was thinking Sendmail might be able to do something 
like this but I could not find any documentation.

Thanks
jody


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Re: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

2003-10-10 Thread Teun Vink

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From: Jody Grafals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail


 Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail
 
 Is it possible to somehow use my Debian Linux server as a tool to 
 download pop mail from a remote server then forward it to my  local mail 
 server (Exchange), I was thinking Sendmail might be able to do something 
 like this but I could not find any documentation.
 


Never used it, but fetchmail should be able to do this, I think.

Regards,


Teun


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Re: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

2003-10-10 Thread Jody Grafals
Yreka - So I could use fetchmail to get the mail form the pop account 
then use sendmail to the exchange server - Can this be automated out of 
the box  or will it invlove scripting and is it a piratical solution for 
auto relaying 50 mailboxes Or am I making this to complicated. Is there 
some sort of mail relaying tool for just moving lot of mail around?

thank
Jody
Teun Vink wrote:

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From: Jody Grafals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

 

Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

Is it possible to somehow use my Debian Linux server as a tool to 
download pop mail from a remote server then forward it to my  local mail 
server (Exchange), I was thinking Sendmail might be able to do something 
like this but I could not find any documentation.

   



Never used it, but fetchmail should be able to do this, I think.

Regards,

Teun



 





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Re: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

2003-10-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:49:21 -0400, 
Jody Grafals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 Yreka - So I could use fetchmail to get the mail form the pop account 
 then use sendmail to the exchange server - Can this be automated out
 of the box  or will it invlove scripting and is it a piratical
 solution for auto relaying 50 mailboxes Or am I making this to
 complicated. Is there some sort of mail relaying tool for just moving
 lot of mail around?

..yep, yep, yep, procmail.  ;-)

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Re: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail

2003-10-10 Thread Pulu 'Anau
Fetchmail will do pretty much everything you're saying out of the box,
although you'll need to make a .fetchmailrc for it which in a config file that
looks alot like a script language sometimes.

The docs/examples are pretty straightforward.  I just used it for a customer
transitioning from webmail/pop configured on their webspace to their own debian
server.  30 mailboxes, which although we only ran it for a week (to double check
DNS transition) should have ran forever mostly fine.  Piece of cake.

You can even set it to retrieve muliple recipients from a single pop box, which
I've also done, and much as the docs say, really don't like too much.

Fetchmail can either run sendmail (ie, the sendmail command that is used for
most on the server mtas) or forward direct via smtp to wherever you want
(including straight into an exchange smtp service).

Pulu
 

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Quoting Jody Grafals [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Yreka - So I could use fetchmail to get the mail form the pop account 
 then use sendmail to the exchange server - Can this be automated out of 
 the box  or will it invlove scripting and is it a piratical solution for 
 auto relaying 50 mailboxes Or am I making this to complicated. Is there 
 some sort of mail relaying tool for just moving lot of mail around?
 
 thank
 Jody
 
 Teun Vink wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jody Grafals [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:52 PM
 Subject: Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail
 
 
   
 
 Spoon feeding Exchange with Sendmail
 
 Is it possible to somehow use my Debian Linux server as a tool to 
 download pop mail from a remote server then forward it to my  local mail 
 server (Exchange), I was thinking Sendmail might be able to do something 
 like this but I could not find any documentation.
 
 
 
 
 
 Never used it, but fetchmail should be able to do this, I think.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Teun
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
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