RE: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs
Hi I had the same problem I solved when I used the snmp v2 counter --snmp-options=:2 this is also necessary if traffic is more than ~100Mbit/s Tomas -Original Message- From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs Hello, I'm having a strange problem using mrtg (woody, kept uptodate with security) to monitor STM-16 interfaces on Cisco hardware. On some interfaces only (which I could not correlate to a different hardware or IOS version) I see the data in the log file, I can see the min/avg/max lines below all the images, but the graph is a flat line at 4b/s. I can see this effect on both sides of a link, on 2 different routers, using 2 different model of line card. This link is the only one having this effect at the moment, and it's actually the only one that has a constant rate above 1.5 Gb/s, with peaks up to 2.3. I've obviously tried to clear counter on the interface, to delete the logs and start from scratch nothing, after a while it's the same flat graph. Which is actually quite annoying when you have to point out a link that needs upgrade ;-) Anyone else ever seen this ? These are the first lines of the .log file: 1066233010 551948614209927 596551269291258 1066233010 257490042 280391210 257490042 280391210 1066232410 255561340 280607526 255561340 280607526 1066232400 255561340 280607526 255561340 280607526 1066232100 255505806 280665083 255561340 281935775 1066231800 254279798 281935775 254279798 281935775 1066231500 254288034 281922509 254526898 281935775 1066231200 254526898 281537817 254526898 281537817 1066230900 254477756 281493130 254526898 281537817 1066230600 253052643 280197210 253052643 280197210 1066230300 252860122 280324175 253052643 282101687 106623 250164831 282101687 250164831 282101687 1066229700 250042329 282176616 250164831 283830834 1066229400 247337883 283830834 247337883 283830834 1066229100 247179875 283606358 247337883 283830834 1066228800 243387702 278218950 243387702 278218950 1066228500 243025153 277536789 243387702 278218950 I have the doubt that rateup can't cope with numbers bigger than somevalue but I'm not sure. Ideas? Ciao Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.21-ac1 #1 Sat Jun 14 22:51:10 CEST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cat 3 cabling
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:27:32AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote: So in essense, since they are both 4-pairs, just looking at it won't let you know which it is (without actually testing it)? Right. And furthermore, even testing with 100 Mbps Ethernet equipment is not the right thing to do. Any way to turn Cat 5 into Cat 3, and vice versa? Cat 3 is ok for 10 MHz signal, Cat 5 for 100 MHz. There are of course other paramters in the spec, like signal attenuation, isolation, etc. There are devices to certify cables, such as Fluke Networks tools. They are not cheap, though ($5000 +). Simply put, don't use Cat3 for Ethernet. Use Cat 5. Or, since Cat 5 is deprecated, Cat 5e, which is 100 MHz too, but with enhancements. Or Cat 6 (250 MHz), or Cat 7 (500 MHz, I think). But then you need to be rich :) -- Nicolas Bougues Axialys Interactive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs
:- Novotny, == Novotny, Tomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I had the same problem I solved when I used the snmp v2 counter --snmp-options=:2 this is also necessary if traffic is more than ~100Mbit/s This is an entirely different problem. The 32 bit counters of snmp v1 are not enough and they roll over at 104 Mb/s more or less. The effect I was talking about is above 2 Gb/s, and using sid's mrtg recompiled for woody neatly solves it (just be careful as some cfgmaker options are different and also indexmaker is more picky about what's in the config file). In fact, the data files were ok, just rateup was not able to make the graph for it. Thanks to Eric for providing me the recompiled version. Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.21-ac1 #1 Sat Jun 14 22:51:10 CEST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISP shopping cart
I totally agree. This is a great product. That's two votes. :-) - Original Message - From: Mark A. Rappoport [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Garry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: ISP shopping cart Have you tried osCommerce (http://www.oscommerce.com)? We've done some customization (I18N primarily, alongside with some product grouping improvements) but it's a great product out of the box. Garry said: Can anyone recommend a good Shopping Cart for use in an ISP situation for use by numerous clients (numerous indivdual shops) so they can customize the look of there own shop, support SSL PayPal or similar? OpenSource or reasonably priced other? I have downloaded and tried a few with no luck so far and was hoping to get some good advice/suggestions from list members that had been there and done that? Thanks Garry Highway Internet Services -- +-+ +- Mark Rappoport +-+ Software Engineer -+ +- NSA Internet and Security Ltd.-+ +- +972-85-523-103 +-+ +972-66-20-50-36 -+ +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Hi, you could give a try to m23, a easy to use software distribution system. You can find all needed at http://m23.sf.net. It is easier to use and install than fai. Now m23 is in beta testing and may be good enough for needs. Try it. Regards, Hauke -- Stoppt TCPA, das Zensursystem von Microsoft! http://www.againsttcpa.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISP shopping cart
Thanks Mark, Sam Mario, I will give OScommerce a try. Cheers Garry At 07:31 AM 24/10/2003 +0200, Mark A. Rappoport wrote: Have you tried osCommerce (http://www.oscommerce.com)? We've done some customization (I18N primarily, alongside with some product grouping improvements) but it's a great product out of the box. Garry said: Can anyone recommend a good Shopping Cart for use in an ISP situation for use by numerous clients (numerous indivdual shops) so they can customize the look of there own shop, support SSL PayPal or similar? OpenSource or reasonably priced other? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISP shopping cart
Can anyone recommend a good Shopping Cart for use in an ISP situation for use by numerous clients (numerous indivdual shops) so they can customize the look of there own shop, support SSL PayPal or similar? OpenSource or reasonably priced other? I have downloaded and tried a few with no luck so far and was hoping to get some good advice/suggestions from list members that had been there and done that? Thanks Garry Highway Internet Services
Re: ISP shopping cart
Have you tried osCommerce (http://www.oscommerce.com)? We've done some customization (I18N primarily, alongside with some product grouping improvements) but it's a great product out of the box. Garry said: Can anyone recommend a good Shopping Cart for use in an ISP situation for use by numerous clients (numerous indivdual shops) so they can customize the look of there own shop, support SSL PayPal or similar? OpenSource or reasonably priced other? I have downloaded and tried a few with no luck so far and was hoping to get some good advice/suggestions from list members that had been there and done that? Thanks Garry Highway Internet Services -- +-+ +- Mark Rappoport +-+ Software Engineer -+ +- NSA Internet and Security Ltd.-+ +- +972-85-523-103 +-+ +972-66-20-50-36 -+ +-+
RE: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs
Hi I had the same problem I solved when I used the snmp v2 counter --snmp-options=:2 this is also necessary if traffic is more than ~100Mbit/s Tomas -Original Message- From: Pierfrancesco Caci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:58 PM To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs Hello, I'm having a strange problem using mrtg (woody, kept uptodate with security) to monitor STM-16 interfaces on Cisco hardware. On some interfaces only (which I could not correlate to a different hardware or IOS version) I see the data in the log file, I can see the min/avg/max lines below all the images, but the graph is a flat line at 4b/s. I can see this effect on both sides of a link, on 2 different routers, using 2 different model of line card. This link is the only one having this effect at the moment, and it's actually the only one that has a constant rate above 1.5 Gb/s, with peaks up to 2.3. I've obviously tried to clear counter on the interface, to delete the logs and start from scratch nothing, after a while it's the same flat graph. Which is actually quite annoying when you have to point out a link that needs upgrade ;-) Anyone else ever seen this ? These are the first lines of the .log file: 1066233010 551948614209927 596551269291258 1066233010 257490042 280391210 257490042 280391210 1066232410 255561340 280607526 255561340 280607526 1066232400 255561340 280607526 255561340 280607526 1066232100 255505806 280665083 255561340 281935775 1066231800 254279798 281935775 254279798 281935775 1066231500 254288034 281922509 254526898 281935775 1066231200 254526898 281537817 254526898 281537817 1066230900 254477756 281493130 254526898 281537817 1066230600 253052643 280197210 253052643 280197210 1066230300 252860122 280324175 253052643 282101687 106623 250164831 282101687 250164831 282101687 1066229700 250042329 282176616 250164831 283830834 1066229400 247337883 283830834 247337883 283830834 1066229100 247179875 283606358 247337883 283830834 1066228800 243387702 278218950 243387702 278218950 1066228500 243025153 277536789 243387702 278218950 I have the doubt that rateup can't cope with numbers bigger than somevalue but I'm not sure. Ideas? Ciao Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.21-ac1 #1 Sat Jun 14 22:51:10 CEST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cat 3 cabling
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:27:32AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote: So in essense, since they are both 4-pairs, just looking at it won't let you know which it is (without actually testing it)? Right. And furthermore, even testing with 100 Mbps Ethernet equipment is not the right thing to do. Any way to turn Cat 5 into Cat 3, and vice versa? Cat 3 is ok for 10 MHz signal, Cat 5 for 100 MHz. There are of course other paramters in the spec, like signal attenuation, isolation, etc. There are devices to certify cables, such as Fluke Networks tools. They are not cheap, though ($5000 +). Simply put, don't use Cat3 for Ethernet. Use Cat 5. Or, since Cat 5 is deprecated, Cat 5e, which is 100 MHz too, but with enhancements. Or Cat 6 (250 MHz), or Cat 7 (500 MHz, I think). But then you need to be rich :) -- Nicolas Bougues Axialys Interactive
Re: mrtg on STM-16 makes strange graphs
:- Novotny, == Novotny, Tomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi I had the same problem I solved when I used the snmp v2 counter --snmp-options=:2 this is also necessary if traffic is more than ~100Mbit/s This is an entirely different problem. The 32 bit counters of snmp v1 are not enough and they roll over at 104 Mb/s more or less. The effect I was talking about is above 2 Gb/s, and using sid's mrtg recompiled for woody neatly solves it (just be careful as some cfgmaker options are different and also indexmaker is more picky about what's in the config file). In fact, the data files were ok, just rateup was not able to make the graph for it. Thanks to Eric for providing me the recompiled version. Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | ik5pvx | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.dyndns.org Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.4.21-ac1 #1 Sat Jun 14 22:51:10 CEST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
Re: ISP shopping cart
I totally agree. This is a great product. That's two votes. :-) - Original Message - From: Mark A. Rappoport [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Cc: Garry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: ISP shopping cart Have you tried osCommerce (http://www.oscommerce.com)? We've done some customization (I18N primarily, alongside with some product grouping improvements) but it's a great product out of the box. Garry said: Can anyone recommend a good Shopping Cart for use in an ISP situation for use by numerous clients (numerous indivdual shops) so they can customize the look of there own shop, support SSL PayPal or similar? OpenSource or reasonably priced other? I have downloaded and tried a few with no luck so far and was hoping to get some good advice/suggestions from list members that had been there and done that? Thanks Garry Highway Internet Services -- +-+ +- Mark Rappoport +-+ Software Engineer -+ +- NSA Internet and Security Ltd.-+ +- +972-85-523-103 +-+ +972-66-20-50-36 -+ +-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
