Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
And a few more details - My working setup
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
3ware Storage Controller device driver for Linux v1.02.00.036.
3w-: PCI Parity Error: clearing.
scsi0 : Found a 3ware Storage Controller at 0xe400, IRQ: 16, P-chip: 1.3
scsi0 : 3ware Storage Controller
blk: queue f7e36c18, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
  Vendor: 3ware Model: Logical Disk 0Rev: 1.0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
blk: queue f7e36a18, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
  Vendor: 3ware Model: Logical Disk 1Rev: 1.0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
blk: queue f7e36818, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 490234752 512-byte hdwr sectors (251000 MB)
 sda: sda1
SCSI device sdb: 490234752 512-byte hdwr sectors (251000 MB)
 sdb: sdb1



Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 00:54, Andrew Miehs wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2003, at 00:27, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> >
> > so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
> > strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
> > not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe 
> > that
> > is important.
> 
> I decided on the 3ware controller because it was a highly recommended 
> SATA controller.
> Just checked my machine again. Sorry, in the debian box, its only a 
> 8506-4. and am running 2.4.22.
> 
> Strange, normally I would have just used bf24... I think I must have 
> had a problem with 2.4.18 and thats why
> the upgrade. (The 3ware controller is the only non standard hardware in 
> this box).
> 
> My other box (8506-8) had Suse installed on it by my supplier for 
> testing purposes.
> I have since upgraded to debian and have 2.4.23 (I net Install my 
> machines), and it also works here.
> 
> So in other words, you are probably correct thinking its a driver issue.
> 
> Sorry bout the confusion,
> 
> Andrew
> 

no,no. thanks for giving me back some hope it's a driver issue.
:-)

tinus




Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
On Dec 13, 2003, at 00:27, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe 
that
is important.
I decided on the 3ware controller because it was a highly recommended 
SATA controller.
Just checked my machine again. Sorry, in the debian box, its only a 
8506-4. and am running 2.4.22.

Strange, normally I would have just used bf24... I think I must have 
had a problem with 2.4.18 and thats why
the upgrade. (The 3ware controller is the only non standard hardware in 
this box).

My other box (8506-8) had Suse installed on it by my supplier for 
testing purposes.
I have since upgraded to debian and have 2.4.23 (I net Install my 
machines), and it also works here.

So in other words, you are probably correct thinking its a driver issue.
Sorry bout the confusion,
Andrew



Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> > Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> > kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> > be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
> redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> and for woody I used bf24.
> 
> filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> 
> 
> tinus
> 

ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.

latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.

Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?

How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?

thanks, tinus





Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem (repost: wrong sender)

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Loftis
There are also a number of firmware updates availableKnown issues also 
exist with Western Digital HDDs

--On Saturday, December 13, 2003 00:28 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series
> kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9
> would  be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.
filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
tinus
ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.
latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.
Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?
How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?
thanks, tinus

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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem (repost: wrong sender)

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> > Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> > kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> > be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
> redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> and for woody I used bf24.
> 
> filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> 
> 
> tinus
> 

ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.

latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.

Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?

How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?

thanks, tinus





Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 00:18, Jason Lim wrote:
> I would suggest you have a look at the 3dm log file in /var/log as this
> sounds like an issue in the communication between the linux disk io
> buffering subsystem and the 3ware card. However, since you're just
> performing the installation, i doubt you can load up 3dmd during that time
> (can you?).
> 

no, I don't think I can.

the post from Andrew Miehs would suggest I have a hardware problem,
maybe the card itself or ram or the mainboard.
right now I'm formatting a 470G NTFS partition to install win2k (still
downloading redhat-8) on and the format is at 34% (woody would stop
after maybe 30 seconds).
so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe that
is important.

tinus





Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Lim
I would suggest you have a look at the 3dm log file in /var/log as this
sounds like an issue in the communication between the linux disk io
buffering subsystem and the 3ware card. However, since you're just
performing the installation, i doubt you can load up 3dmd during that time
(can you?).

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Miehs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2003 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem


> I have an 8 port 8506-8 (no raid) and 3 250GB Disks running fine on a
> debian bf24 box.
> Have formated each disk with ext3 and 1 partition.
>
> Have a RAID 5 setup running on SUSE 9 with 600GB Space, and also no
> problems.
>
> Andrew
>
> >>> I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB
> >>> SATA,
> >>> 3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while
> >>> formatting
> >>> a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
> >>> absolutely nothing to me).
> >>> kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
> >>> invalid operand: 
> >>> CPU: 0
> >>> Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
> >>> thanks, tinus
> >
> > redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> > and for woody I used bf24.
> >
> > filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> >
>
>
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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
And a few more details - My working setup

SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
3ware Storage Controller device driver for Linux v1.02.00.036.
3w-: PCI Parity Error: clearing.
scsi0 : Found a 3ware Storage Controller at 0xe400, IRQ: 16, P-chip: 1.3
scsi0 : 3ware Storage Controller
blk: queue f7e36c18, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
  Vendor: 3ware Model: Logical Disk 0Rev: 1.0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
blk: queue f7e36a18, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
  Vendor: 3ware Model: Logical Disk 1Rev: 1.0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
blk: queue f7e36818, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
SCSI device sda: 490234752 512-byte hdwr sectors (251000 MB)
 sda: sda1
SCSI device sdb: 490234752 512-byte hdwr sectors (251000 MB)
 sdb: sdb1
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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 00:54, Andrew Miehs wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2003, at 00:27, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> >
> > so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
> > strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
> > not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe 
> > that
> > is important.
> 
> I decided on the 3ware controller because it was a highly recommended 
> SATA controller.
> Just checked my machine again. Sorry, in the debian box, its only a 
> 8506-4. and am running 2.4.22.
> 
> Strange, normally I would have just used bf24... I think I must have 
> had a problem with 2.4.18 and thats why
> the upgrade. (The 3ware controller is the only non standard hardware in 
> this box).
> 
> My other box (8506-8) had Suse installed on it by my supplier for 
> testing purposes.
> I have since upgraded to debian and have 2.4.23 (I net Install my 
> machines), and it also works here.
> 
> So in other words, you are probably correct thinking its a driver issue.
> 
> Sorry bout the confusion,
> 
> Andrew
> 

no,no. thanks for giving me back some hope it's a driver issue.
:-)

tinus


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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
On Dec 13, 2003, at 00:27, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe 
that
is important.
I decided on the 3ware controller because it was a highly recommended 
SATA controller.
Just checked my machine again. Sorry, in the debian box, its only a 
8506-4. and am running 2.4.22.

Strange, normally I would have just used bf24... I think I must have 
had a problem with 2.4.18 and thats why
the upgrade. (The 3ware controller is the only non standard hardware in 
this box).

My other box (8506-8) had Suse installed on it by my supplier for 
testing purposes.
I have since upgraded to debian and have 2.4.23 (I net Install my 
machines), and it also works here.

So in other words, you are probably correct thinking its a driver issue.

Sorry bout the confusion,

Andrew

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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
I have an 8 port 8506-8 (no raid) and 3 250GB Disks running fine on a 
debian bf24 box.
Have formated each disk with ext3 and 1 partition.

Have a RAID 5 setup running on SUSE 9 with 600GB Space, and also no 
problems.

Andrew
I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB 
SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while 
formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0
Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
thanks, tinus
redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.
filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.



Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> > Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> > kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> > be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
> redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> and for woody I used bf24.
> 
> filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> 
> 
> tinus
> 

ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.

latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.

Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?

How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?

thanks, tinus



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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem (repost: wrong sender)

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Loftis
There are also a number of firmware updates availableKnown issues also 
exist with Western Digital HDDs

--On Saturday, December 13, 2003 00:28 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series
> kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9
> would  be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.
filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.

tinus

ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.
latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.
Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?
How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?
thanks, tinus



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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem (repost: wrong sender)

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:35, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> > Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> > kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> > be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
---SNIP---
> redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> and for woody I used bf24.
> 
> filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> 
> 
> tinus
> 

ok, redhat 9 uses version 1.02.00.031 of 3w-.c
I'm guessing bf24 does not use anything newer.

latest version of the driver is 1.02.00.036. I'm going to try that one
on a redhat 8 installation.

Assuming that is going to work, how would I be able to install woody
with a kernel that has this version of the 3ware drivers?

How to roll my own kernel (on an existing woody system) and somehow load
it while installing woody?

thanks, tinus



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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 00:18, Jason Lim wrote:
> I would suggest you have a look at the 3dm log file in /var/log as this
> sounds like an issue in the communication between the linux disk io
> buffering subsystem and the 3ware card. However, since you're just
> performing the installation, i doubt you can load up 3dmd during that time
> (can you?).
> 

no, I don't think I can.

the post from Andrew Miehs would suggest I have a hardware problem,
maybe the card itself or ram or the mainboard.
right now I'm formatting a 470G NTFS partition to install win2k (still
downloading redhat-8) on and the format is at 34% (woody would stop
after maybe 30 seconds).
so I'm still hoping it's a driver-version issue, but that would be
strange considering Andrew Miehs's post, although he mentions he does
not use a raid-setup (why use an 8506-8(!) and not do raid?), maybe that
is important.

tinus



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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Jason Lim
I would suggest you have a look at the 3dm log file in /var/log as this
sounds like an issue in the communication between the linux disk io
buffering subsystem and the 3ware card. However, since you're just
performing the installation, i doubt you can load up 3dmd during that time
(can you?).

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Miehs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2003 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem


> I have an 8 port 8506-8 (no raid) and 3 250GB Disks running fine on a
> debian bf24 box.
> Have formated each disk with ext3 and 1 partition.
>
> Have a RAID 5 setup running on SUSE 9 with 600GB Space, and also no
> problems.
>
> Andrew
>
> >>> I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB
> >>> SATA,
> >>> 3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while
> >>> formatting
> >>> a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
> >>> absolutely nothing to me).
> >>> kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
> >>> invalid operand: 
> >>> CPU: 0
> >>> Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
> >>> thanks, tinus
> >
> > redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
> > and for woody I used bf24.
> >
> > filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.
> >
>
>
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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Andrew Miehs
I have an 8 port 8506-8 (no raid) and 3 250GB Disks running fine on a 
debian bf24 box.
Have formated each disk with ext3 and 1 partition.

Have a RAID 5 setup running on SUSE 9 with 600GB Space, and also no 
problems.

Andrew

I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB 
SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while 
formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0
Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
thanks, tinus
redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.
filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.



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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
> 
> --On Friday, December 12, 2003 22:21 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:
> >
> > I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
> > 3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
> > a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
> > absolutely nothing to me).
> > I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
> > Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
> > alerts on my screen:
> >
> > kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
> > invalid operand: 
> > CPU: 0
> > Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
> > thanks, tinus

redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.

filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.


tinus




Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Loftis
Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.

--On Friday, December 12, 2003 22:21 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:
I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
alerts on my screen:
kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0
Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
thanks, tinus

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3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:

I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
alerts on my screen:

kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0

Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?


thanks, tinus






Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 22:26, Michael Loftis wrote:
> Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
> kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
> be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.
> 
> --On Friday, December 12, 2003 22:21 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:
> >
> > I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
> > 3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
> > a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
> > absolutely nothing to me).
> > I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
> > Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
> > alerts on my screen:
> >
> > kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
> > invalid operand: 
> > CPU: 0
> > Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?
> > thanks, tinus

redhat uses a 2.4.20 kernel (uname gives 2.4.20-8BOOT)
and for woody I used bf24.

filesystem does not seem to matter, I tried both ext2 and ext3.


tinus


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Re: 3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Loftis
Kernel version specifically, and filesystem?  Old 2.4 and 2.2 series 
kernels experience this issue..But I find it hard to believe RH9 would 
be seeing it, though stranger things have happened.

--On Friday, December 12, 2003 22:21 +0100 Tinus Nijmeijers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:

I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
alerts on my screen:
kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0
Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?

thanks, tinus



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3ware 8506-4 hangs while making filesystem

2003-12-12 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
I'm guessing someone here would know about this, so here goes:

I'm installing a new system (P4C, intel mainboard, 1G RAM, 4x160GB SATA,
3ware 8506-4, raid 5) and the system freezes completely while formatting
a big partition ("unable to handle kernel paging request..." means
absolutely nothing to me).
I installed without the 3ware card on a single 160GB disk: no problem.
Right now I'm installing Redhat-9, it seemed ok but now I see big RED
alerts on my screen:

kernel BUG at buffer.c 559!
invalid operand: 
CPU: 0

Anyone experienced this with a 3ware card?


thanks, tinus




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Re: Sendmail & Queuing

2003-12-12 Thread Rich Puhek

Jason McMullen wrote:
Good Day All,
I'm running into an odd issue.  We have 2 servers that act as
"front-end" MX hosts running Sendmail.  These servers then smarthost all
mail back to a main server.  This works well at keeping the main server
unloaded due to dictionary attacks and whatnot.  The problem we're
seeing is the MX hosts bogging down when trying to deliver mail to the
main host.  

Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting Sendmail to be a
little "nicer" about its queuing strategy?  Or is the best option qmail
or another MTA?
TIA!
-Jason

You might want to experiment with connection caching, so that the MX 
servers don't open a new connection to the mail_hub. Something like:
define(`confMCI_CACHE_SIZE',`2')dnl
define(`confMCI_CACHE_TIMEOUT',`120s')dnl

Also may want to sort your queue by host, so that all internal mail gets 
delivered in order.

How many messages do you have in the queue on your MX hosts? If you're 
pushing over 1000, I'd suggest splitting into multiple queue directories.

Do you have host status enabled? If so, your state directory may be the 
problem (.com and .net directories may have thousands of entries, which 
was not good on my ext2 filesystem). I have had good luck with making a 
small ReiserFS parition for /var/local/state/sendmail.

How are you handling dictionary attacks? just letting the MX'es handle 
trying to DNS notifies, or do your MX hosts know about valid usernames?

If you have lots of bounces sitting in your queue on your MX hosts due 
to spammer dictionary attacks, you can move the DSN messages into a 
"slow running" queue. Debian's sendmail installation has a method to do 
this, or you can do something like:

a) Create a new queue directory (/var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry in my case).
b) Create the following /etc/cron.d/sendmail_slowqueue entry (may need 
to correct line breaks):

#!/bin/sh
#
# sendmail_slowqueue -- move hanging messages into a slower queue...
#
# 11/12/2003 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Every 8 min, move to slower queue...
# (every 8, so that we stagger away from regular queue run... trying
# to prevent getting blocked by queue run.
*/8 *  * * *  root /usr/share/sendmail/qtool.pl -e 
'$msg{num_delivery_attempts} >= 3 && ($msg{sender} =~ "\<\>" or 
$msg{sender} =~ "MAILER-DAEMON")' /var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry 
/var/spool/mqueue/Q*

#Process the slow queue every 3 hours, instead of default 20 minutes.
# 11/17/03: Changed to run as root (permission problem as smmsp),
# also added QueueSortOrder=host, since most will be undeliverable
# bounce messages anyway. --RAP
5  */3 * * *  root /usr/sbin/sendmail -q -L sendmail-slowqueue -O 
QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry -O QueueSortOrder=host

--Rich



Re: Sendmail & Queuing

2003-12-12 Thread Rich Puhek


Jason McMullen wrote:
Good Day All,

I'm running into an odd issue.  We have 2 servers that act as
"front-end" MX hosts running Sendmail.  These servers then smarthost all
mail back to a main server.  This works well at keeping the main server
unloaded due to dictionary attacks and whatnot.  The problem we're
seeing is the MX hosts bogging down when trying to deliver mail to the
main host.  

Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting Sendmail to be a
little "nicer" about its queuing strategy?  Or is the best option qmail
or another MTA?
TIA!

-Jason


You might want to experiment with connection caching, so that the MX 
servers don't open a new connection to the mail_hub. Something like:
define(`confMCI_CACHE_SIZE',`2')dnl
define(`confMCI_CACHE_TIMEOUT',`120s')dnl

Also may want to sort your queue by host, so that all internal mail gets 
delivered in order.

How many messages do you have in the queue on your MX hosts? If you're 
pushing over 1000, I'd suggest splitting into multiple queue directories.

Do you have host status enabled? If so, your state directory may be the 
problem (.com and .net directories may have thousands of entries, which 
was not good on my ext2 filesystem). I have had good luck with making a 
small ReiserFS parition for /var/local/state/sendmail.

How are you handling dictionary attacks? just letting the MX'es handle 
trying to DNS notifies, or do your MX hosts know about valid usernames?

If you have lots of bounces sitting in your queue on your MX hosts due 
to spammer dictionary attacks, you can move the DSN messages into a 
"slow running" queue. Debian's sendmail installation has a method to do 
this, or you can do something like:

a) Create a new queue directory (/var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry in my case).

b) Create the following /etc/cron.d/sendmail_slowqueue entry (may need 
to correct line breaks):

#!/bin/sh
#
# sendmail_slowqueue -- move hanging messages into a slower queue...
#
# 11/12/2003 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Every 8 min, move to slower queue...
# (every 8, so that we stagger away from regular queue run... trying
# to prevent getting blocked by queue run.
*/8 *  * * *  root /usr/share/sendmail/qtool.pl -e 
'$msg{num_delivery_attempts} >= 3 && ($msg{sender} =~ "\<\>" or 
$msg{sender} =~ "MAILER-DAEMON")' /var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry 
/var/spool/mqueue/Q*

#Process the slow queue every 3 hours, instead of default 20 minutes.
# 11/17/03: Changed to run as root (permission problem as smmsp),
# also added QueueSortOrder=host, since most will be undeliverable
# bounce messages anyway. --RAP
5  */3 * * *  root /usr/sbin/sendmail -q -L sendmail-slowqueue -O 
QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue-slow-retry -O QueueSortOrder=host

--Rich



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Re: Sendmail & Queuing

2003-12-12 Thread Henk . Roose
Jason,

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:19:07AM -0500, Jason McMullen wrote:
> 
> I'm running into an odd issue.  We have 2 servers that act as
> "front-end" MX hosts running Sendmail.  These servers then smarthost all
> mail back to a main server.  This works well at keeping the main server
> unloaded due to dictionary attacks and whatnot.  The problem we're
> seeing is the MX hosts bogging down when trying to deliver mail to the
> main host.  
> 
> Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting Sendmail to be a
> little "nicer" about its queuing strategy?  Or is the best option qmail
> or another MTA?

Make sure that SingleThreadDelivery is turned off on the MX. On the
smarthost however make sure it's not dropping connections too early.
Look at the the REFUSE_LA and QUEUE_LA (sendmail must have the correct
LA_TYPE compiled in). Also look at the CONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE and 
MAX_DAEMON_CHILDREN parameters.
It may also help to pay attention to which host is resolving what.

Hope this helps.
-- 
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CWI - Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica
Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science
Amsterdam (NL)




Re: Sendmail & Queuing

2003-12-12 Thread Henk . Roose
Jason,

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:19:07AM -0500, Jason McMullen wrote:
> 
> I'm running into an odd issue.  We have 2 servers that act as
> "front-end" MX hosts running Sendmail.  These servers then smarthost all
> mail back to a main server.  This works well at keeping the main server
> unloaded due to dictionary attacks and whatnot.  The problem we're
> seeing is the MX hosts bogging down when trying to deliver mail to the
> main host.  
> 
> Does anyone have any tried and true methods for getting Sendmail to be a
> little "nicer" about its queuing strategy?  Or is the best option qmail
> or another MTA?

Make sure that SingleThreadDelivery is turned off on the MX. On the
smarthost however make sure it's not dropping connections too early.
Look at the the REFUSE_LA and QUEUE_LA (sendmail must have the correct
LA_TYPE compiled in). Also look at the CONNECTION_RATE_THROTTLE and 
MAX_DAEMON_CHILDREN parameters.
It may also help to pay attention to which host is resolving what.

Hope this helps.
-- 
Henk Roose - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CWI - Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica
Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science
Amsterdam (NL)


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