spamassassin memory leak bug with bayes

2004-07-22 Thread Dmitry Golubev
Hello,

Running latest testing Debian on a Xeon box with exim4 and MailScanner - that 
was OK until I tried to put that all in a chroot. Now having all the needed 
packages unpacked in a chroot (I followed the dependencies and checked 
library reqs for every single executable with a script that does an 'ldd'), I 
have the following:

1. Running exim4 with MailScanner without Spamassassin - OK
2. Running exim4 + MailScanner + Spamassassin... hmm... well that kind of 
behavior... In this case MailScanner eats up all my 1GB of RAM and my 2GB on 
swap, and also all my CPU (Xeon 2.4GHz with HyperThreading enabled). Nothing 
is logged, nothing shows something is wrong
3. Fighting with it for a 4 or 5 hours found that version 2.60 (note that I 
have version 2.63) had a bug that could lead to this when bayes is enabled... 
Disabled bayes, and that it...

It seams it is really a bug, but please suggest any workaround...

Dmitry


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Re: spamassassin memory leak bug with bayes

2004-07-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Dmitry, 

Am 2004-07-23 00:50:51, schrieb Dmitry Golubev:
Hello,

1. Running exim4 with MailScanner without Spamassassin - OK
2. Running exim4 + MailScanner + Spamassassin... hmm... well that kind of 
behavior... In this case MailScanner eats up all my 1GB of RAM and my 2GB on 
swap, and also all my CPU (Xeon 2.4GHz with HyperThreading enabled). Nothing 
is logged, nothing shows something is wrong

Hmmm, I have a Duron 1600 with 128 MByte of Memory and 200 MByte of 
SWAP. 

Has 4 Domains, and around 30-40 $USER. 
In plus there are 36 local $USER which use 176 E-Mails fetched from 
differnt ISP's 

I am using courier-{mta,imap,pop3,mlm,authpostgresql,webadmin} and 
have tried to fuck my Server wit 2 Worms and Viruses and around 
1.000.000 Spams... Using f-prot and spamassassin 2.63 via spamc. 

The Virus and Mail-Sending Testserver was a Athlon 2000. All two 
Servers are connected to a 3Com SuperStack III with GigaBit Ports. 

LoadAverage was around 5.3 on the Server. Exactly, it is my local 
FileServer where the /home is stored and exported via NFS.

3. Fighting with it for a 4 or 5 hours found that version 2.60 (note that I 
have version 2.63) had a bug that could lead to this when bayes is enabled... 
Disabled bayes, and that it...

It seams it is really a bug, but please suggest any workaround...

In 2.60 or 2.63 ?
There is nothing which eat up memory in 2.63...

But it seems, there is a bug in 2.99

Dmitry

Greetings
Michelle

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anyone tried ThePlanet.com hosting?

2004-07-22 Thread Chad Adlawan
Good Day Everyone!


Has anybody here tried hosting or getting a hosting solution from
ThePlanet.com? I've been surfing their site, trying live chat with
their sales reps, and was pretty much satisfied with the way they
handled my queries. They also offer good packages PLUS the fact that
they offer Debian hosting.

So before I sign-up, can anyone here who has any experience with them
offer me/us a review of what their service is like? Uptime, tech
support, competence in general?


Many thanks!

Chad


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Any Experience With DSPAM?

2004-07-22 Thread ITC-Hosting



Hello 
all,

With the current 
discussion of greylisting and SPAM, wondering if anyone here has implemented or 
tested DSPAM?


Regards,

 


Hal 
Kurz

Innovative 
Technology Consultants and Company, Inc.
11767 
South Dixie Highway #307
Miami, 
FL 33156

Office: 
(305) 238-6587
Fax: 
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www.itccinc.com



Re: [mailinglists] Re: Trusting Backports and unofficial Repositories

2004-07-22 Thread Dale E Martin
FWIW, I run woody + bunk-{1,2} backports plus a very selective few
backports.org backports.  And then I have a fair number of backports I've
done myself.  And download.kde.org :-)

 that's fine and it may work well for you, but telling yourself that it is
 still 'stable' (or even that it is any more stable or reliable than
 'unstable') is pure self-delusion. 

While what you say is true, there is a decent chance that if you break
something you'll only break whatever app(s) you upgraded.  So if I run
spamassassin from backports.org (or from Adrian Bunk's backports or
wherever), hopefully you can back that change out and still have a
functioning system.  I've run unstable in the past and managed to get to a
state where I can't bootup after an upgrade and now I get to reinstall from
scratch.  And once I've done that, what next?  Try running unstable again?
I've probably had this happen 2-3 times since 1997 or so, so maybe that's
not too bad.  But downtime is very costly for me and I'm sure many others.

 what you have is an untested and unique hybrid, that is quite different
 (possibly in subtle bug-inducing ways) from ANYONE else's system.  you're
 the sole guinea-pig for your combination of packages and versions, so
 your ability to benefit from other people's experiences and reports is
 reduced.

True...  If you limit the backports you run, hopefully you have the option
of backing all of the way out to stable.  Not really possible without a
reinstall if you're running unstable.

[snip]

 ps: another point about unstable - nothing is ever forcing you to
 upgrade when you don't want to.  if your latest unstable upgrade has all
 your packages working exactly as you want and there are no bugs or
 security holes discovered that bother you and there's no new features
 that you need or want, then don't upgrade until you need to.  in short,
 if it's working, don't fix it.
 
Right, but then you do want some new version of some package - say KDE
3.2.x, and you do an apt-get upgrade to get it, and suddenly you're
upgrading every package on your system.  Running a backport from
download.kde.org does not have this effect - an apt-get upgrade will
upgrade only kde + dependencies.  The depndencies are surprisingly few most
of the time, although recently xfree 4.3 got added to that mix.

 also, you don't have to do a full upgrade to unstable.  you can upgrade
 just what you need and only the packages you specify plus any required
 versions of dependancies will be upgraded (usually the exact same
 dependancies that would be required by any backports upgrade, except that
 they're official debian packages rather than unofficial and unsupported).
 the rest will stay as they were.
 
Honestly, most of the backports packages are compiled against stable
libraries where possible so you end up not upgrading nearly as much.

 so, who needs backports when debian's package management tools and ftp
 archive already caters for that need, and has done so nearly from the
 start?

The fact that they exist and that anyone is participating in this
discussion means that there is some need for them in my mind.  (Or some
need for something other than stable, testing, and unstable.)  I don't mind
running unstable in general, but the couple of times that things have
broken badly on me it's been really really bad.  Maybe apt-get needs a
capability like cvs where you can say apt-get upgrade -D last Tuesday so
you can hit what was a stable version of unstable when you do upgrades ;-)

Take care,
 Dale
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graylisting with exim4 experimental packages

2004-07-22 Thread Dale E Martin
I'm running exim4 on a stable + some backports box.  I've configured exim
to do SA scanning before accepting email for delivery (using exim ACLs) and
I'm rejecting about 89% of incoming connections now which is nice.  (RBLs
are also generating a lot of the rejects.)

The discussion on graylisting is interesting to me.  Right now if an email
is scored below 12 it gets accepted.  It would be interesting to me to take
mails scored between 2-12 by SA and greylist them.  Has anyone written up a
howto on how to achieve this with the Debian exim4 packages?

Thanks!
Dale
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Re: Outlook and Qmail

2004-07-22 Thread Brian Franco



I have the same problem with redhat sendmail and 
qpopper did you ever find a solution?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

I am having a problem with one of my customers who is using Outlook 
2000SP-3 to connect to our Qmail server. When downloading messages 
from his POPaccount, Outlook will hang. It is most likely a 
corrupted message, since hecan delete the messages using a webmail 
interface, and then continue todownload messages. He has been 
using McAfee's SpamKiller, but now, evenwhen he turns it off he has the 
same problem. He has even deleted hisaccount and recreated it 
(this is a virtual domain, so he can login asPostmaster and do 
that).Has anyone run into this problem? I know at least one 
other ISP having thesame problem with some of his customers, but we have 
not found a solutionyet. Any pointers will be 
appreciated.Thanx,Anil Gupte


Re: anyone tried ThePlanet.com hosting?

2004-07-22 Thread Steve
Hello,

I've had experience with both theplanet and servermatrix.com (which is a 
lower-cost subsidiary of theplanet).  I've had a great experience 
with both companies.  I currently have a debian server at servermatrix 
and couldn't be happier with it.  

I had some pretty specific (and probably unusual) requests for setup of
the server and filesystem layout and they handled them perfectly.  As 
far as uptime goes, it's good enough that I don't even bother to worry 
about it.  They seem to have enough redundancy and, more importantly, 
seem to have more than enough knowledge on how to run things that this 
isn't a concern of mine.

I've had a couple occasions to use their tech support, like when I hosed 
the first kernel recompile as I figured out the right drivers for the 
hardware.  In general they appeared knowledgeable.  I have pretty good 
confidence that if something goes wrong and I need eyes and hands on the 
console that they would be able to help out.  Just as important, they're 
*willing* to help out.  The people I've dealt with have been 
professional and courteous.

Naturally, all of this is based solely on my experience with both
companies over the last ~14 months, so your experience may vary.  Also,
fyi, I manage my own server so I have no experience with their control
panel software or any of their managed or partically-managed plans.

Steve

On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 01:37:03AM +0800, Chad Adlawan wrote:
 Good Day Everyone!
 
 
 Has anybody here tried hosting or getting a hosting solution from
 ThePlanet.com? I've been surfing their site, trying live chat with
 their sales reps, and was pretty much satisfied with the way they
 handled my queries. They also offer good packages PLUS the fact that
 they offer Debian hosting.
 
 So before I sign-up, can anyone here who has any experience with them
 offer me/us a review of what their service is like? Uptime, tech
 support, competence in general?
 
 
 Many thanks!
 
 Chad
 
 
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Re: Any Experience With DSPAM?

2004-07-22 Thread Yves Junqueira
I have and with great sucess, even using a single user for learning/filtering.

I let both DSPAM and SA filtering messages. Each one inserted it's own
header tag.

DSPAM beated SA's checks (excluding bayes, which I dont use) by far.




- Original Message -
From: ITC-Hosting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:02:22 -0400
Subject: Any Experience With DSPAM?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Hello 
all,

 

With the current 
discussion of greylisting and SPAM, wondering if anyone here has implemented or 
tested DSPAM?

 

 

Regards,




 



 


Hal 
Kurz


 


Innovative 
Technology Consultants and Company, Inc.


11767 
South Dixie Highway #307


Miami, 
FL 33156


 


Office:
(305) 238-6587


Fax:
(305) 256-1562


 


www.itccinc.com



 




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Re: Outlook and Qmail

2004-07-22 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin
Do me a quick favor and when it happens, grep the message for three +++ 
signs together... if he's on a dialup modem, I have seen 3 plusses cause 
the modem to go into the 'guard' and 'hang' the email program.

A long shot, but something worth looking into.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:26:22PM -0400, Brian Franco wrote:
 I have the same problem with redhat sendmail and qpopper did you ever find a 
 solution?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
 I am having a problem with one of my customers who is using Outlook 2000
 SP-3 to connect to our Qmail server.  When downloading messages from his POP
 account, Outlook will hang.  It is most likely a corrupted message, since he
 can delete the messages using a webmail interface, and then continue to
 download messages.  He has been using McAfee's SpamKiller, but now, even
 when he turns it off he has the same problem.  He has even deleted his
 account and recreated it (this is a virtual domain, so he can login as
 Postmaster and do that).
 
 Has anyone run into this problem?  I know at least one other ISP having the
 same problem with some of his customers, but we have not found a solution
 yet.  Any pointers will be appreciated.
 
 Thanx,
 Anil Gupte
 
 

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