Re: Sugesstions building a rather big mail system.

2003-10-06 Thread Guus Houtzager
On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 16:03, Fredrik wrote:
> Hello fellow sysadmins, 
> 
> I have been aproached about building a rather big mail system handling
> 500. existing accounts (running today on a windows based product (ick))
> with a growth about 50.000 new accounts per year.
> The services needed is: smtp, pop3, imap4. 
> 
> I have used LVS for about 3y with good results for 30.000 acounts. 
> But this is certainly a bigger project. Should I go for alteon or any other
> closed product or stick with LVS?
> 
> Is there anyone on the list running such a system or have some comments about 
> building such a system? (I do prefer to use OS/FS Software)
> 
> My main concern is the storage. SAN? 
> Anyone used supersparrow for source based load balancing?
> 
> What do you think? 

Check out
http://asg.web.cmu.edu/twiki/bin/view/Cyrus/CarnegieMellonCyrusInstallation

Not quite as large as your setup though.

> Thanks for you time.
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Hope this helps,

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Re: Dovecot

2003-09-11 Thread Guus Houtzager
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 19:30, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 September 2003 19:32, Mark Devin wrote:
> 


> Check the "Postfix+Courier-IMAP+MySQL for multiple domains HOWTO" at 
> http://kirb.insanegenius.net/postfix.html ... everything you need to 
> accomplish such a system is packaged up in Debian stable.  I've been using 
> systems such as this for 6 months and haven't had any glitches yet, the 
> systems are not high volume but they're steadily used.  With user accounts 
> stored in a database whipping up an administrative interface for domains is 
> quite trivial, I just don't see the advantages of going the extra step of 
> putting the emails themselves into a database.

Well, using a database backend for the storage of the mails themselves
gives you the possibility of implementing clustering and so create a
redundant mailstore, possibly distributed over several locations.

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Re: Dovecot

2003-09-09 Thread Guus Houtzager
Hi,

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 01:31, Jernej Horvat wrote:
> Tuesday 09 of September 2003 08:55, Adrian von Bidder >
> 



> > (And - sorry, can't help you with an imap server with the mails in a
> > relational db, I don't know of any solution that does this.)
> 
> I know one.  MS Exchange. :]
> 
> And you know how well that works in case the db goes bananas.

A while back I came across another one, dbmail. Check www.dbmail.org
I wanted to give it a go, but unfortunately haven't had time to play
with it yet. Does anybody on this list have experience with dbmail?

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Re: SMP on Debian server with Hyperthreading

2003-09-06 Thread Guus Houtzager
Hi,

On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 09:31, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi Guus,
> 
> Yes, BIOS setting is enabled. The ONLY thing that I haven't done is edit
> lilo to include the acpismp=force setting. Did you set that to make it
> work? Does it work without it (ie. SMP enabled WITHOUT modifying lilo)?

Haven't modified lilo for this to work.
I looked again at your dmesg output and compared it to mine. With me
it's ACPI doing the detection of the cpu's. Did you enable ACPI?

Part of my dmesg:
Linux version 2.4.22 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20030831 (Debian
prerelease)) #1 SMP Tue Sep 2 11:37:18 CEST 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 2fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 2fff - 2fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 2fff3000 - 3000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: fec0 - 0001 (reserved)
767MB LOWMEM available.
ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0002000
found SMP MP-table at 000f51c0
hm, page 000f5000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f6000 reserved twice.
hm, page 000f reserved twice.
hm, page 000f1000 reserved twice.
On node 0 totalpages: 196592
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 192496 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 IntelR) @
0x000f6c50
ACPI: RSDT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x) @
0x2fff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x) @
0x2fff3040
ACPI: MADT (v001 IntelR AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x) @
0x2fff6700
ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTELR AWRDACPI 0x1000 MSFT 0x010d) @
0x
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 Pentium 4(tm) XEON(tm) APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
Processor #1 Pentium 4(tm) XEON(tm) APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] polarity[0x1] trigger[0x1] lint[0x1])
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] polarity[0x1] trigger[0x1] lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] global_irq_base[0x0])
IOAPIC[0]: Assigned apic_id 2
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 32, address 0xfec0, IRQ 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus[0] irq[0x0] global_irq[0x2] polarity[0x0]
trigger[0x0])
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus[0] irq[0x9] global_irq[0x9] polarity[0x1]
trigger[0x3])
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=303 hdc=scsi

and so on...

ACPI part of my config:

#
# ACPI Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_HT_ONLY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set


> Thanks.

I hope this helps.

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Re: SMP on Debian server with Hyperthreading

2003-09-06 Thread Guus Houtzager
Hi,

On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 17:06, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering... I've got a 2.4Ghz Hyperthreading (100% it is the
> hyperthreading model), and the BIOS sees it.

I have a 3.06 GHz P4 on an I845G chipset and in the BIOS I had to switch
the HT option from disabled to enabled. So is it actually on in your
BIOS-settings?

> I then compiled the kernel... the usual, except added the SMP support
> setting "Symmetric multi-processing support". Nothing else was changed.
> 
> Compiled it, liloed it... it's running it:
> 
> # uname -a
> Linux megalith 2.4.22 #8 SMP Thu Aug 28 14:44:13 HKT 2003 i686 unknown
> 
> However,

That's correct.

> # mpstat -P
> Not an SMP machine...
> 
> And in top i don't see the multiple CPU usage

This does work on my setup. I'm running 2.4.22 now, but it worked with
2.4.20 aswell.

> this is all strange. For Linux, aren't Hyperthreading CPUs suppose to act
> like completely separate independent CPUs (this was suppose to change in
> 2.6... but for 2.4, they can't tell the difference, right?).
> 
> Hope you can advise... as hyperthreading is there but not being used,
> which is a waste and could add performance.

My machine is a workstation, so I don't know what would happen with
typical server software (ie apache, database) but for instance compiling
a kernel with 3 simultaneous threads is about 20% faster than using only
1 thread.

> Thanks in advance!

Hope this helps!

> Jas

Regards,

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Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..

2003-09-05 Thread Guus Houtzager
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:18, Tinus Nijmeijers wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 16:08, Eric Sproul wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I know we could set a larger minimum interval for POP, but the
> > political implications of generating tech support calls about "why can't
> > I POP my mail?" prevent it.  Don't get me started on THAT.  8^o
> 
> sorry to butt in, but HOW could you set such a minimum interval?
> I have searched and found nothing that could do this for me.

It's not a configoption of your MTA, it's a pop/imap server specific
setting. We're running cyrus and there it's controlled using

# Minimum time between POP mail fetches in minutes
popminpoll: 1

in /etc/imapd.conf

> thanks 
> 
> tinus.

Regards,

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