Re: ADSL problem...
I'm not sure if it'll work as I have an ADSL router which does pppoe. This doesn't connect so I don't really see what I'll gain from the deb pkg. Also, the docs (if they can be called that) which come with the modem tell me that you can connect multiple machines to the modem over the lan as long as only one at a time is using a connection to the internet I think the basic problem is that 3com stuff is crap - always has been IMHO. I've never liked playing with it - except the Palm Pilot, but then, they didn't create and code it! ;-) Cheers, Jason. On Friday, February 2, 2001, at 06:34 PM, Robert Waldner wrote: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:21:01 +0100, Jason Quigley writes: > >I understand what you're saying. The software for windoze does use pppoe. > >It's > > a really bizarre utility which creates a pseudo lan device and routes > > between > > that and the physical lan card. I cannot, however, use an adsl router > > configu > >red for pppoe bring up a connection. > > > >All I really need, I guess, is a way to force the modem to start it's pppoa > >co > >nnection and then connect to the modem via pppoe. As I say, this is a guess > >- > >a really big guess! :) > > Just install the PPPoE-package, the modem does (simplified) nothing > else then to deencapsulate the PPP out of the E, then reencapsulates > it in A ;-) > > So, the proper way to get the modem to initiate the PPPoA-connection is > to connect to the modem with PPPoE. > > cheers, > &rw > -- > / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ > \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 / > > > > >
Re: ADSL problem...
I'm not sure if it'll work as I have an ADSL router which does pppoe. This doesn't connect so I don't really see what I'll gain from the deb pkg. Also, the docs (if they can be called that) which come with the modem tell me that you can connect multiple machines to the modem over the lan as long as only one at a time is using a connection to the internet I think the basic problem is that 3com stuff is crap - always has been IMHO. I've never liked playing with it - except the Palm Pilot, but then, they didn't create and code it! ;-) Cheers, Jason. On Friday, February 2, 2001, at 06:34 PM, Robert Waldner wrote: > On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:21:01 +0100, Jason Quigley writes: > >I understand what you're saying. The software for windoze does use pppoe. It's > > a really bizarre utility which creates a pseudo lan device and routes between > > that and the physical lan card. I cannot, however, use an adsl router configu > >red for pppoe bring up a connection. > > > >All I really need, I guess, is a way to force the modem to start it's pppoa co > >nnection and then connect to the modem via pppoe. As I say, this is a guess - > >a really big guess! :) > > Just install the PPPoE-package, the modem does (simplified) nothing > else then to deencapsulate the PPP out of the E, then reencapsulates > it in A ;-) > > So, the proper way to get the modem to initiate the PPPoA-connection is > to connect to the modem with PPPoE. > > cheers, > &rw > -- > / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ > \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 / > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problem...
Hi Robert! I understand what you're saying. The software for windoze does use pppoe. It's a really bizarre utility which creates a pseudo lan device and routes between that and the physical lan card. I cannot, however, use an adsl router configured for pppoe bring up a connection. All I really need, I guess, is a way to force the modem to start it's pppoa connection and then connect to the modem via pppoe. As I say, this is a guess - a really big guess! :) Thanks, Jason. On Friday, February 2, 2001, at 07:35 AM, Robert Waldner wrote: > > When it´s connected to you PC via a LAN card it has to use some > protocol other than PPPoA on the LAN side. PPPoA is fine between modem > and DSLAM but not for the LAN side. > > Are you really sure that it doesn´t use PPPoE[0] on the ethernet side? > > cheers, > &rw > > 0: or something like PPTP, which is just plain sick, but in use here in >.at nonetheless.
Re: ADSL problem...
Hi Robert! I understand what you're saying. The software for windoze does use pppoe. It's a really bizarre utility which creates a pseudo lan device and routes between that and the physical lan card. I cannot, however, use an adsl router configured for pppoe bring up a connection. All I really need, I guess, is a way to force the modem to start it's pppoa connection and then connect to the modem via pppoe. As I say, this is a guess - a really big guess! :) Thanks, Jason. On Friday, February 2, 2001, at 07:35 AM, Robert Waldner wrote: > > When it´s connected to you PC via a LAN card it has to use some > protocol other than PPPoA on the LAN side. PPPoA is fine between modem > and DSLAM but not for the LAN side. > > Are you really sure that it doesn´t use PPPoE[0] on the ethernet side? > > cheers, > &rw > > 0: or something like PPTP, which is just plain sick, but in use here in >.at nonetheless. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problem...
On Thursday, February 1, 2001, at 05:58 PM, Robert Waldner wrote: > > Ah, I guess this 3com-stuff comes in form of a PCI-card which connects > directly to the copper-wire, then? It's actually an external modem which is connected to a peecee either with a lan card or usb. > > (btw: PPPoA stands for PPP over AAL5, not ATM. That´s a rather psychic > difference, but one nonetheless ;-) RFC2364) I guess we'd better let 3com and my ISP know that! :-) > > cheers, > &rw Cheers, Jason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL problem...
The problem is that the ISP is using PPPoA, as in PPP over ATM. Cheers, Jason. On Thursday, February 1, 2001, at 02:48 PM, Bao C. Ha wrote: > > apt-get install pppoe? > > ADSL modem use either pppoe or dhcp. Since your ISP > gives you a software package, I assume it is pppoe. > > My rule of thumb is as follows: > > 1. PPPoE if a username/password pair is required to login. > > 2. DHCP if no software/no login is required to use the > service. > > Good luck. > > Bao > > -- > Bao C. Ha, Presidentvoice: (678) 467-9415 > Hacom, Internet & Web Services http://www.hacom.net > Linux/Unix Consulting/Training http://www.masteringlinux.com > Primary Perpetrator of "Slackware Linux Unleashed" > > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Jason Quigley wrote: > > > This time, I'll try putting a subject!! :-) > > > > Hi! > > > > I have been supplied with a 3com homeconnect dual link adsl modem by my isp. Does >anybody > know of any Debian (or other Linux distros) to control this rotten equipment. I only > received software for winblows and I really, really don't want to have to install >that > rotten OS on any of my machines as I'm afraid that it's festering leprosy may affect >the rest > of the network. > > > > I know some of you may suggest getting the isp to replace it, but that's not an >option as here > in Spain the telcos are only one step ahead of the most underdeveloped third world >nation > and they don't grok anything other than (said in best zombie voice) windows - and >not even > w2k at that!! With an *average* turnaround time of 6 months to get an adsl line >installed, > I'm afraid technology might have moved on by the time they start to figure out that >other > OS's exist! > > > > Anyway, all help would be greatly appreciated to keep the evil empire out of our >office. > > > > Many thanks, > > Jason. > > > > P.S. I hate Timofonica, I haaaete Timofonica. > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ADSL problem...
This time, I'll try putting a subject!! :-) Hi! I have been supplied with a 3com homeconnect dual link adsl modem by my isp. Does anybody know of any Debian (or other Linux distros) to control this rotten equipment. I only received software for winblows and I really, really don't want to have to install that rotten OS on any of my machines as I'm afraid that it's festering leprosy may affect the rest of the network. I know some of you may suggest getting the isp to replace it, but that's not an option as here in Spain the telcos are only one step ahead of the most underdeveloped third world nation and they don't grok anything other than (said in best zombie voice) windows - and not even w2k at that!! With an *average* turnaround time of 6 months to get an adsl line installed, I'm afraid technology might have moved on by the time they start to figure out that other OS's exist! Anyway, all help would be greatly appreciated to keep the evil empire out of our office. Many thanks, Jason. P.S. I hate Timofonica, I haaaete Timofonica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi! I have been supplied with a 3com homeconnect dual link adsl modem by my isp. Does anybody know of any Debian (or other Linux distros) to control this rotten equipment. I only received software for winblows and I really, really don't want to have to install that rotten OS on any of my machines as I'm afraid that it's festering leprosy may affect the rest of the network. I know some of you may suggest getting the isp to replace it, but that's not an option as here in Spain the telcos are only one step ahead of the most underdeveloped third world nation and they don't grok anything other than (said in best zombie voice) windows - and not even w2k at that!! With an *average* turnaround time of 6 months to get an adsl line installed, I'm afraid technology might have moved on by the time they start to figure out that other OS's exist! Anyway, all help would be greatly appreciated to keep the evil empire out of our office. Many thanks, Jason. P.S. I hate Timofonica, I haaaete Timofonica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unusal fetchmail error
I get similar problems with fetchmail. It times out while waiting for a server response. Even if the timeout parameter is supplied it does the same. IIRC, this is listed on the bugs page for fetchmail. I threw together a couple of scripts to fix the problem. This goes in my /etc/cron.d directory: # /etc/cron.d/fetchmail_check: crontab fragment to check for fetchmail timeout hang. # Check if fetchmail is hanging - every 15 minutes 0,15,30,45 * * * * root if [ ! "`tail -1 /var/log/fetchmail | grep timeout`" = "" ]; then /etc/init.d/fetchmail restart; fi This goes in my /etc/init.d directory and is linked using /usr/sbin/update-rc.d: #!/bin/sh # # /etc/init.d/fetchmail: start and stop fetchmail bg process. # FETCHINTERVAL=180 FETCHPROG=/usr/bin/fetchmail FETCHMAILRC=/etc/fetchmailrc FETCHLOG=/var/log/fetchmail test -x $FETCHPROG || exit 1 case $1 in start) echo -n "Starting fetchmail background process..." $FETCHPROG -v -t 120 -d $FETCHINTERVAL -f $FETCHMAILRC -L $FETCHLOG echo "done." ;; stop) echo -n "Stopping fetchmail background process..." $FETCHPROG -q ;; restart) /etc/init.d/fetchmail stop /etc/init.d/fetchmail start ;; esac I have also added the usual log rotation and cleanup stuff. HTH, Jason. On Wednesday, January 24, 2001, at 01:04 PM, Kozman Balint wrote: > > Hi to everyone, > > I'm running a local mailserver behind a Sonic pro firewall. Outgoing > messages are sent via exim to the smarthost outside with address revision. > I use fetchmail to get messages from the mailserver outside via pop3. > The problem is with fetchmail: sometimes when it gets defunct after > downloading messages, it becomes a Zombie, and some minutes later when the > new instance of fetchmail comes up, it stops working 'cos "another > fetchmail is running in background" and this way users don't get their > mails. > Is this a kernel problem, or a bug of fetchmail, or what? > (fetchmail gets started via cron) > > Thanks in advance, regards: > > Balint > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c982-TXM
On Monday, January 22, 2001, at 06:15 PM, brian moore wrote: > > Or are you forgetting your post in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? > > > Actually, the most xenophobe's I have come across in my life are > > English! You just have to look at all the ambassadors, otherwise > > known as football hooligans. Look at Prince Phillip! Look at > > virtually every English sitcom from the 70's and 80's! > > "Look at all those lazy black people! Heck, just watch 'The Jeffersons' > and you'll know all black people are lazy! But watch them dance -- they > sho' got great natural rhythm." > > How is your statement any different? > > Hint: it's not. > Well smart arse, I never actually said that all English are xenophobes, I just said "Another English xenophobe" which I'm sure you'll have to agree is not the same. I merely implied that there was another one to add to the list of many. > > "I was justifying in making bigoted commments because he is English! > I'd only be wrong if I'd guessed the wrong nationality." > See above. > > "I've met many lazy black people, so therefore, I have a right to call > any black man 'another lazy black'" > Now, you're moving from bigotry, to downright racism! > Oh, and learn what the 'Mail-Followup-To:' header is for. I really > don't need two copies of your crap. Do I care? BTW - This message got through just before I put you in my kill file. So, you're still there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c982-TXM
Wow, I must have struck a raw nerve! On Saturday, January 20, 2001, at 09:51 PM, brian moore wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 02:01:56AM +0100, Jason Quigley wrote: > > Indeed, and I venture that was what Martin's point was as well. Yet you > flamed him. Oh, so to make the point, he decided to flame with a sarcastic assessment of somebody else's use of the language. Good way to make the point. > > No, the 'original poster', Christian, said to post in 'proper english'. > Martin's point was that Christian's own post wasn't 'proper', and > therefore hypocritical yet you flamed -Martin- and even classified > him based on his nationality? > Again, as I said in another post, you've got to allow leeway for somebody who is not using his mother tongue. I know who I was sending the message to. What you are saying here is that you can interpret what the original poster said, but I can't? Try not to be so supercilious! > > At least not many of what you call "English xenophobes". eh? Actually, the most xenophobe's I have come across in my life are English! You just have to look at all the ambassadors, otherwise known as football hooligans. Look at Prince Phillip! Look at virtually every English sitcom from the 70's and 80's! > > Why is the nationality of a poster important -YOU-, Jason, are the > one calling people names based on their nationality. Is that just a > quantification of your feelings toward those "bloody foreigners"? > I actually looked at his email address, signature and surname to make a pretty good guess at his nationality!! I was not calling him names based on his nationality, just what he posted. > > Perhaps you should listen to your own rants instead of flaming people > based on your own ethnic biases. > I flamed one poster who to me is a xenophobe, is English and fits into the largest group of xenophobes that I know. My nationality if you want it, is Irish. I've lived in England, so I have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about. Cheers, Jason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c982-TXM
On Friday, January 19, 2001, at 04:16 PM, David Bishop wrote: > > Since when is ausruesten an an English word. > > Correction: Since when is ausruesten *an* English word *?* Correcting one > mistake with two of your own is actually pretty funny. :-) > Ha ha!! No worries though - I've chopped off the two fingers that typed the extra bit and stabbed my left eye as punishment for not seeing the lack of a question mark! ;-) Anyway, my point was that anybody can make mistakes (as I very aptly demonstrated) and I think it takes a real arse to criticise somebody for making en error with what is obviously not their first language. The original poster was obviously trying to put across the idea that the list is an English speaking one and that German words wouldn't generally be understood by the majority of lurkers and posters here. I am now living in Spain and if everybody here was as short-sighted as that, it would make life here very tough going. So, wake up little islanders, there's a world full of other people out there (otherwise known to some as "bloody foreigners")! Cheers, Jason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c982-TXM
Another English xenophobe. How charming. But as you want to be an arse about it, read on... On Friday, January 19, 2001, at 11:51 PM, Martin WHEELER wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Christian Kurz (rudely) wrote: > > > ausruesten ist since which day a english word? Please use proper english > > OK. Correction 1. > > "ausruesten ist since when an english word?" > ^^ ^ Since when is ausruesten an an English word. > > > to two different debian mailinglist, > > Correction 2. > > "to two different debian mailing lists," > ^^ to two different Debian mailing lists, > > > more appropriate lists for sending your questions too? > > Correction 3. > > "more appropriate lists for sending your questions to?" > ^ > > > Ciao > > Correction 4. > > "Cheers" May a thousand camels fart in your general direction. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
