Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints?
Well, you have to commend Mark's honesty. He did say, I really didn't want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales platform. And he answered the question. It's better than being subversive and saying something like, I am a _very_ _happy_ customer of company XYZ. They rule On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 20:16, Jason Lim wrote: Agree... let's try and keep this for a discussion about ISPs running Debian... not Sales Marketing. We're pretty much all offering Debian here as part of our services, otherwise we wouldn't BE here to start with ;-) I don't think anyone minds a line or two mentioning your company, cool... but the whole email with paragraphs worth of promotions? - Original Message - From: Mark Lijftogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Loopshot Operator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 February, 2003 6:46 AM Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints? You forgot about how your company is growing, the amount of job openings, the nice and bright future and stuff.. naah.. nevermind.. On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:27:00PM -0800, Loopshot Operator wrote: Old-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debian friendly unmanaged hosting joints? Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jamie Penner [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loopshot Operator [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really didn't want to use this excellent mailing list as a sales platform, but it seems like there are several interested parties looking for Debian-specific dedicated/managed hosting stateside. Our firm does just that. We are Debian-specific, in that we really don't promote other distros or OSes nearly as much (only if requested). Pricing is $195/mo. for 30 GB of bandwidth. Full data-center amenities, such as 10 day battery backup, diesel generator backup, dual DS-3 capacity, environmental control, etc. With our dedicated server packages, we also give you access to your own power control so you can power-cycle your server as you see fit. We will also do full monitoring of ports/services/intrusion and nightly backup, if you so desire, (although most on this list seem like they're perfectly capable of doing that themselves.) So that aside, feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like more information. Our web site is currently being revamped, so some of the info on there is out of date. Here's the contact info: Eric Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loopshot, Inc. http://www.loopshot.com +1 (775) 856-3455 Once again, my apologies for those who may not be interested, but I thought I'd mention it since several have asked about firms offering Debian servers in the U.S. Thanks- Eric On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Jamie Penner wrote: Wish they were in N. America! (or someone like them!) At 12:46 PM 2/17/2003, you wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Brett Parker wrote: http://www.positiveinternet.co.uk/ isn't that www.positive-internet.co.uk? The address works with or without the hyphen; with or without the www. (That's the sort of attention to little detail you get with them.) one of the maintainers of the debian packages for apache2 works there, he has clue Not only that, but when chatting on #debian-uk one night, I got instant service from one of their employees for a question about their service I had, that just cropped up in the course of conversation. Very, very Debian, all round. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Mark Lijftogt -- http://www.qut.nl -- http://www.lijftogt.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Being new to Debian...
I agree. If you are running in a production environment that is exposed to the Internet definently stick with stable. It's much easier to compile a few latest and greatest programs that fit your needs than it is to keep track of and compile all of the security updates. On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Robin Y. Millette wrote: Sonny Kupka wrote: Being new to Debian distro, I was just wondering what people's thoughts were on running testing in a ISP environment on a main server.. I don't want bleeding edge I just want up to date software on my servers.. Just curious to others thoughts on the matter.. --- Sonny The moment you abandon the security of the stable distribution, you have to handle all security alerts manually. If you can live with the versions offered by the stable applications, but still find there are a few applications where you need a more current version, look into the pinning feature woody offers. -- Robin Y. Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Being new to Debian...
I agree. If you are running in a production environment that is exposed to the Internet definently stick with stable. It's much easier to compile a few latest and greatest programs that fit your needs than it is to keep track of and compile all of the security updates. On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Robin Y. Millette wrote: Sonny Kupka wrote: Being new to Debian distro, I was just wondering what people's thoughts were on running testing in a ISP environment on a main server.. I don't want bleeding edge I just want up to date software on my servers.. Just curious to others thoughts on the matter.. --- Sonny The moment you abandon the security of the stable distribution, you have to handle all security alerts manually. If you can live with the versions offered by the stable applications, but still find there are a few applications where you need a more current version, look into the pinning feature woody offers. -- Robin Y. Millette (aka Lord D. Nattor) http://rym.waglo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Forced DHCP setup
NoCatAuth (nocat.net) does exactly this. Although I think NoCat is designed with wireless in mind. Not sure if it works with normal wired network cards, but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, C. R. Oldham wrote: I don't believe it's possible to have a user log in to get an IP. It is possible, in hotels that have broadband in rooms, and on some university campuses I've been too they have a DHCP server setup to serve addresses from a private block. On that network there is a webserver setup to intercept any http request coming from a client in the private block and redirect the user to a page where he/she has to login. On login a cgi (or some such) makes a change in the DHCP database to allocate the user a real IP. The user gets instructions on the ensuing webpage to do a release/renew and boom they are setup. Sorry, I don't know of any opensource packages to do this, but it shouldn't be too hard. Of course, unless you setup your routers to block packets based on MAC address this won't prevent someone from guessing a valid IP and setting it up static. -- C. R. Oldham Director of Technology NCA CASI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Forced DHCP setup
NoCatAuth (nocat.net) does exactly this. Although I think NoCat is designed with wireless in mind. Not sure if it works with normal wired network cards, but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't. On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, C. R. Oldham wrote: I don't believe it's possible to have a user log in to get an IP. It is possible, in hotels that have broadband in rooms, and on some university campuses I've been too they have a DHCP server setup to serve addresses from a private block. On that network there is a webserver setup to intercept any http request coming from a client in the private block and redirect the user to a page where he/she has to login. On login a cgi (or some such) makes a change in the DHCP database to allocate the user a real IP. The user gets instructions on the ensuing webpage to do a release/renew and boom they are setup. Sorry, I don't know of any opensource packages to do this, but it shouldn't be too hard. Of course, unless you setup your routers to block packets based on MAC address this won't prevent someone from guessing a valid IP and setting it up static. -- C. R. Oldham Director of Technology NCA CASI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unstable is unstable; stable is outdated
kernel, etc... and as we all know, jumping from stable to unstable is problem-prone and doesn't worth flawlessly every time. Why jump all the way to unstable, why not use testing? Testing is usually stable enough for most applications plus the various software packages are pretty up to date. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unstable is unstable; stable is outdated
kernel, etc... and as we all know, jumping from stable to unstable is problem-prone and doesn't worth flawlessly every time. Why jump all the way to unstable, why not use testing? Testing is usually stable enough for most applications plus the various software packages are pretty up to date.
Fwd: scp, no ssh
how about setting the user's shell to /bin/true. this allows ftp, but no login shell. so it may work for scp as well. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: scp, no ssh Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:49:10 +0100 From: Robert Janusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How to allow, for some users' IPs, only scp and no ssh? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] an.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: scp, no ssh
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 21:23, Joel Michael wrote: On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 12:19, Tim Quinlan wrote: how about setting the user's shell to /bin/true. this allows ftp, but no login shell. so it may work for scp as well. This is true, but you can still (probably) use ssh to execute commands, like /bin/sh, and effectively get a shell. you may be right, as i've never tried this with scp but what true does (as a shell) is log you out instantly. so, in theory, you couldn't execute a command from ssh because as soon as you authenticate, true would log you out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: scp, no ssh
how about setting the user's shell to /bin/true. this allows ftp, but no login shell. so it may work for scp as well. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: scp, no ssh Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:49:10 +0100 From: Robert Janusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org How to allow, for some users' IPs, only scp and no ssh? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] an.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Fwd: scp, no ssh
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 21:23, Joel Michael wrote: On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 12:19, Tim Quinlan wrote: how about setting the user's shell to /bin/true. this allows ftp, but no login shell. so it may work for scp as well. This is true, but you can still (probably) use ssh to execute commands, like /bin/sh, and effectively get a shell. you may be right, as i've never tried this with scp but what true does (as a shell) is log you out instantly. so, in theory, you couldn't execute a command from ssh because as soon as you authenticate, true would log you out.
