Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-27 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi all,
ok I am starting to get a bit further -
If I log in on the console, I get a max processes of 7168
If I log in via telnet (installed for the test) I get 7168
If I have a cronjob that 'ulimit -a  /tmp/ulimit' I get 7168
If I edit /etc/init.d/rc and add a 'ulimit -a  /ulimit.txt' I get 7168
If I log in via ssh I get 256.
The defualt PAM config uses /etc/security/limits.conf,
and the default limits.conf is empty. I have changed
the setting in limits.conf to 4000, AND rebooted, but no
change in the 256. Does sshd do something stupid?
Thanks
Andrew
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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-27 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi all,
ok I am starting to get a bit further -
If I log in on the console, I get a max processes of 7168
If I log in via telnet (installed for the test) I get 7168
If I have a cronjob that 'ulimit -a  /tmp/ulimit' I get 7168
If I edit /etc/init.d/rc and add a 'ulimit -a  /ulimit.txt' I get 7168
If I log in via ssh I get 256.
The defualt PAM config uses /etc/security/limits.conf,
and the default limits.conf is empty. I have changed
the setting in limits.conf to 4000, AND rebooted, but no
change in the 256. Does sshd do something stupid?
Thanks
Andrew



Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-19 Thread Andrew Miehs
The box with 7168 is installed from a NetInstall Debian CD.

The box with 256 is installed via PXE Boot using a copied filesystem from
a box installed with the SAME NetInstall Debian CD.
Both boxes are initially installed with WOODY, using the bf24 kernel.

Regards

Andrew

 Andrew: Did you upgrade the 256er-boxen from 2.2? Did you use make
 oldconfig or took you parts (patches) from the kernel before?




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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-19 Thread Andrew Miehs
The box with 7168 is installed from a NetInstall Debian CD.

The box with 256 is installed via PXE Boot using a copied filesystem from
a box installed with the SAME NetInstall Debian CD.
Both boxes are initially installed with WOODY, using the bf24 kernel.

Regards

Andrew

 Andrew: Did you upgrade the 256er-boxen from 2.2? Did you use make
 oldconfig or took you parts (patches) from the kernel before?






Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Andreas John wrote:
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes
/etc/sysctl.conf are empty
www01:~# diff login.defs.develop /etc/login.defs
www01:~#
www01:~# diff limits.conf.develop /etc/security/limits.conf
www01:~#
Any other ideas where the problem could be?
bastille change the ulimit
ciao
cate
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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Hector Gonzalez
are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168 
limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.

Andrew Miehs wrote:
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes

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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andrew Miehs
I have installed the SAME packages with dpkg --set-selections on two boxes
with a self compiled kernel 2.4.25-p4smp.

One has 256, one has 7168

WHERE is the 256 coming from - I have looked everywhere - even compared
etc, lib dirs etc... I just dont understand!!!
Thanks

Andrew


 are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168
 limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.


 Andrew Miehs wrote:
 Hi Philipp,

 I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the
 point

 develop:~$ ulimit -u
 7168
 develop:~$

 www01:~# ulimit -u
 256
 www01:~#


 On both boxes


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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas John
Hector Gonzalez wrote:
are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168 
limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.
Together with andrews information (--get-selections say: same pachages 
installed) I would assume that on of the boxes had a 2.2.x before an for 
some weired reason there is d #define in the kernel source of 2.2.series 
that made it into Andrew's special 2.4.x.

Andrew: Did you upgrade the 256er-boxen from 2.2? Did you use make 
oldconfig or took you parts (patches) from the kernel before?

rgds,
Andreas
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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andrew Miehs
/etc/sysctl.conf is empty on both boxes...
Both are running woody.
Very confused...
Andrew
On 18.05.2004, at 10:40, Philipp Steinkrüger wrote:
use sysctl. i think there is also a config file
/etc/sysctl.conf.
regards,
philipp
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Subject: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

Dear list,
I am confused... I am running two debian boxes with woody,
but one has a ulimit -u (max user proc) of 7168, and the other of 256.
(both as root) the difference does not appear to be in login.defs 
or
/etc/security/limits.
Does anyone have any ideas where I should look...
diff -r /etc /etcother didnt seem to show any important diffeneces..

Thanks for your help,
Andrew

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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andrew Miehs
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes
/etc/sysctl.conf are empty
www01:~# diff login.defs.develop /etc/login.defs
www01:~#
www01:~# diff limits.conf.develop /etc/security/limits.conf
www01:~#
Any other ideas where the problem could be?
Thanks
Andrew
On 18.05.2004, at 10:51, Philipp Steinkrüger wrote:
thats not strange. i have a woody box here with an
empty file, but i have some very loaded servers which
needed to be tuned, so sysctl.conf isnt emtpy anymore :)



Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas John
Hi!
Do you have some security-enhancement packages installed on www01?
I could imagine (i.e. don't know :-)) that stuff like selinux decreases 
umlimits on kernel compile time. Or maybe some uml or virtual 
hosts/machine package installed for hosting customers?

rgds,
j.
Andrew Miehs wrote:
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes
/etc/sysctl.conf are empty
www01:~# diff login.defs.develop /etc/login.defs
www01:~#
www01:~# diff limits.conf.develop /etc/security/limits.conf
www01:~#
Any other ideas where the problem could be?
Thanks
Andrew
On 18.05.2004, at 10:51, Philipp Steinkrüger wrote:

thats not strange. i have a woody box here with an
empty file, but i have some very loaded servers which
needed to be tuned, so sysctl.conf isnt emtpy anymore :)



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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Andreas John wrote:
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes
/etc/sysctl.conf are empty
www01:~# diff login.defs.develop /etc/login.defs
www01:~#
www01:~# diff limits.conf.develop /etc/security/limits.conf
www01:~#
Any other ideas where the problem could be?
bastille change the ulimit
ciao
cate



Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Mathieu Meylan
Hi,

I checked on 7 debian (woody) server compaq , all with kernel 2.4.24
(same build).
- in 2 servers I find 4095  (no the same hardware)
- in one 3075
- in other one 1024

!!???!!! sorry not answer of this question !

Mat

 Giacomo A. Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 2:05 PM 
Andreas John wrote:

 Hi Philipp,

 I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
 point

 develop:~$ ulimit -u
 7168
 develop:~$

 www01:~# ulimit -u
 256
 www01:~#


 On both boxes

 /etc/sysctl.conf are empty

 www01:~# diff login.defs.develop /etc/login.defs
 www01:~#

 www01:~# diff limits.conf.develop /etc/security/limits.conf
 www01:~#

 Any other ideas where the problem could be?

bastille change the ulimit

ciao
cate


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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Hector Gonzalez
are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168 
limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.

Andrew Miehs wrote:
Hi Philipp,
I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the 
point

develop:~$ ulimit -u
7168
develop:~$
www01:~# ulimit -u
256
www01:~#
On both boxes



Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andrew Miehs
I have installed the SAME packages with dpkg --set-selections on two boxes
with a self compiled kernel 2.4.25-p4smp.

One has 256, one has 7168

WHERE is the 256 coming from - I have looked everywhere - even compared
etc, lib dirs etc... I just dont understand!!!
Thanks

Andrew


 are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168
 limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.


 Andrew Miehs wrote:
 Hi Philipp,

 I agree with you that the boxes may need tuning, but thats not the
 point

 develop:~$ ulimit -u
 7168
 develop:~$

 www01:~# ulimit -u
 256
 www01:~#


 On both boxes


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Re: [mailinglists] Ulimit and max processes

2004-05-18 Thread Andreas John
Hector Gonzalez wrote:
are you using the same kernel on both boxes?  2.4.x gives the 7168 
limit, 2.6.x gives unlimited and 2.2.x gives 256 by default.
Together with andrews information (--get-selections say: same pachages 
installed) I would assume that on of the boxes had a 2.2.x before an for 
some weired reason there is d #define in the kernel source of 2.2.series 
that made it into Andrew's special 2.4.x.

Andrew: Did you upgrade the 256er-boxen from 2.2? Did you use make 
oldconfig or took you parts (patches) from the kernel before?

rgds,
Andreas
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Tel: +49 69 85700331
http://www.net-lab.net