Re: OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s))

2000-11-19 Thread Robert Davies

 On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 06:30:59PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote:
  On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:18:31 +0100, Dariush Pietrzak writes:
   which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes,
 
  I wouldn't know.
  but isn't that what OpenView is for? and is unbeatable in that field?
 
  I consider BrokenView to be in the field of BigBuckMoneyBurn-ware ...

 Indeed.  I've yet to meet anyone that has used it and -liked- it.

 The most common reason to run OV is "we installed some vendor hardware
 and they only let us manage it with OV".

This now explains to me why the networking team at my old company, having
had the UNIX, TCP/IP admin side install openview for them at vast expense.
Then still relied on us to troubleshoot whenever there were problems

We used e ping, traceroute, tcpdump etc


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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-19 Thread Robert Davies

 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:47:54 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
 On Friday 17 November 2000, at 9 h 25, the keyboard of Debian Ghost
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  I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with
Cisco
  routers and/or other Cisco gear.
 
 Everything is in Debian packages:
 
 m4 (to create configuration files)
 mrtg (to get stats from the boxes)
 mon (to monitor the boxes)
 telnet (just in case)

 and, of course, there´s rtrmon http://www.vix.com/vix/rtrmon/, though
 afaik not yet debian´ized, it does a great job if you have to cope with
 large numbers of routers (especially criscos).

And add expect(1) to that list!!


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OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s))

2000-11-18 Thread Robert Waldner

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 15:08:02 +0100, Dariush Pietrzak writes:
 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco

there is wonderfull perl module for configuring Cisco routers.
besides that you've got all default tools like telnet;),snmp utils like
mrtg etc..

which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes, 
 maintaining (+backuping!) their configuration, both locally and in 
 general, upgrading them with the latest security fixes etc pp. a bunch 
 of fleas can´t be _that_ much more work ;-) ...

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Re: OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s))

2000-11-18 Thread Dariush Pietrzak


 which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes, 
I wouldn't know.
but isn't that what OpenView is for? and is unbeatable in that field?


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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-18 Thread Dariush Pietrzak


 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
there is wonderfull perl module for configuring Cisco routers.
besides that you've got all default tools like telnet;),snmp utils like
mrtg etc..



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Re: OT: working with cisco gear (Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s))

2000-11-18 Thread Robert Waldner

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 17:18:31 +0100, Dariush Pietrzak writes:
 which are useful unless you have to manage lots of those boxes, 

I wouldn't know.
but isn't that what OpenView is for? and is unbeatable in that field?

I consider BrokenView to be in the field of BigBuckMoneyBurn-ware ...

If you´re (for whatever reason) already forced to use expensive (and 
much too often crappy) cisco-gear, I´d guess you don´t want to strangle 
yourself further with moremore not-open-source-software.

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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Robert Waldner

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:47:54 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
On Friday 17 November 2000, at 9 h 25, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
 routers and/or other Cisco gear. 

Everything is in Debian packages:

m4 (to create configuration files)
mrtg (to get stats from the boxes)
mon (to monitor the boxes)
telnet (just in case)

and, of course, there´s rtrmon http://www.vix.com/vix/rtrmon/, though 
afaik not yet debian´ized, it does a great job if you have to cope with 
large numbers of routers (especially criscos).

hth,
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CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Debian Ghost

Hey Guys,   
I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
anything that is happening now and/or being developed.

Any info much appriciated!

D. Ghost



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Re: CISCO -- debian tool(s)

2000-11-17 Thread Youri Albinovanus

Debian Ghost wrote:

 Hey Guys,
 I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
 routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
 analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
 anything that is happening now and/or being developed.

 Any info much appriciated!

 D. Ghost

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Hi,

I know that cisco has a product that work on solaris and NT, not yet on linux
but they are working on it.
Actually i use minicom to configure debug and monitor what's happening on my
ciscos and i'm really glad about it. ;o)
To monitor cisco routers and/or NAS, you can use rrdtool and mrtg to get info
about bandwith, and snmp to reconfigure the cisco on the fly (for example in
combination with lids).

youri

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