CMS
I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12 teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project web space. There are a lot of products out there but most of them are not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site. This does not have to scale too big. A few thousand user sites max. ( We have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500 users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. ) Criteria: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. We installed quite a few products. Some were quite easy to use but there was little access granularity. Others like typo3 were quite granular but the end users would go into vapor lock if they ever saw the interface. The closest thing we have hit, our of the box, is Plone. Setting it up for personal web space is trivial. The Epos editor is fairly simple to use. The one big advantage with Plone for students would be the ability to configure a teacher as to verify content before it is posted to the Internet. It would almost be a go right out of the box. Minor mods so that folks can't set up their own web space without authorization, our logo etc. The biggest problem that I have with Plone is that we have no experience with Zope based applications. Documentation for Plone is quite lacking. Backup and disaster recovery are complete unknowns to us on this type of system. Any help with suggested/known products or RTFM pointers would be greatly appreciated.
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On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. Look at MamboServer.Com -- David Thurman The Web Presence Group http://www.the-presence.com Web Development/E-Commerce/CMS/Hosting/Dedicated Servers 800-399-6441/309-679-0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David Thurman wrote: On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. Look at MamboServer.Com We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a little daunting. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo. -Original Message- From: Debian ISP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CMS [Scanned] David Thurman wrote: On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. Look at MamboServer.Com We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a little daunting. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11/22/04 9:13 AM, Debian ISP wrote: We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a little daunting. I thought that Robert or Emir had some user documentation done. You may want to contact them, they have a forum going, been a while since we have been there. We used to be one of the project leaders, but have since left. They are very responsive though. -- David Thurman The Web Presence Group http://www.the-presence.com Web Development/E-Commerce/CMS/Hosting/Dedicated Servers 800-399-6441/309-679-0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo. What do you mean by granular? -- David Thurman The Web Presence Group http://www.the-presence.com Web Development/E-Commerce/CMS/Hosting/Dedicated Servers 800-399-6441/309-679-0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My recollection was that the you could set up a user then grant them an access level. At that point, the access level applied to the entire Mambo site. There was not a way to set up an area for each user then grant that user access only to that area. If you were granted the ability to create new items, you could do that anywhere is the site. If you had edit rites, you could edit anywhere in that site (or virtual site). -Original Message- From: David Thurman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CMS [Scanned] On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo. What do you mean by granular? -- David Thurman The Web Presence Group http://www.the-presence.com Web Development/E-Commerce/CMS/Hosting/Dedicated Servers 800-399-6441/309-679-0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ross, Chris wrote: My recollection was that the you could set up a user then grant them an access level. At that point, the access level applied to the entire Mambo site. There was not a way to set up an area for each user then grant that user access only to that area. If you were granted the ability to create new items, you could do that anywhere is the site. If you had edit rites, you could edit anywhere in that site (or virtual site). -Original Message- From: David Thurman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CMS [Scanned] On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo. What do you mean by granular? I recall seeing a module that allowed for such controls. I would send a link from mosforge but it looks like they are experiencing technical difficulties this afternoon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From my experience, if you want an extensive ACLs, try tikiwiki; if you want easy-to-use and powerfull system without ACLs, try mediawiki Dmitry On Monday 22 November 2004 17:17, Ross, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo. -Original Message- From: Debian ISP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CMS [Scanned] David Thurman wrote: On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. Look at MamboServer.Com We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a little daunting. Hal
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:46:47AM -0500, Ross, Chris wrote: I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12 teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project web space. There are a lot of products out there but most of them are not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site. This does not have to scale too big. A few thousand user sites max. ( We have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500 users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. ) Criteria: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. dunno if it's what you want, but there's a kind of clone of yahoo groups called GNU Glubs (GNU Clubbing System). when i last looked at, about a year ago, it was missing a few features compared to yahoo, but it seemed to do the basic job. sourceforge project page is at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/glubs/ doesn't look like it's been changed since Feb 2003. it's in perl, can use postgresql (or mysql too, i think) as the db backend, and the code was relatively easy to understand and modify. works with apache CGI, or apache with mod-perl. not finished, but a pretty good base, i thought. craig -- craig sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] (part time cyborg) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:20:33AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: it's in perl, can use postgresql (or mysql too, i think) as the db backend, oops, wrong. it uses mysql, not postgres. i hacked it to work with postgres on my system because i didn't want to install rubbish like mysql. craig -- craig sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] (part time cyborg) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:20:33AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:46:47AM -0500, Ross, Chris wrote: I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12 teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project web space. There are a lot of products out there but most of them are not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site. This does not have to scale too big. A few thousand user sites max. ( We have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500 users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. ) Criteria: 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they have been allowed to work and no other area. 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor. 3. EASY to use for non technical folks! 4. Little modification needed. Plone. It can be tricky to configure if you want to heavily customise it. It can also be a bit slow for a heavily hammered site (squid frontends recommended for very buisy sites). But it probably matches the above requirements as close as you can get. I believe there have even been K12 bootable CD's created for exactly this application. -- Donovan Baardahttp://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Plone is good. You can easily back it up with rsync: http://www.zope.org/Members/jrush/howto_rsync_zope There are also lots of documentation on the Plone site if you drill down. Ross, Chris wrote: Documentation for Plone is quite lacking. Backup and disaster recovery are complete unknowns to us on this type of system. Any help with suggested/known products or RTFM pointers would be greatly appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:45:00 +1100, Donovan wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I believe there have even been K12 bootable CD's created for exactly this application. ..http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixCustomizations mentions LivePlone which can be fetched off http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9295 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)
On Thu, 16 May 2002 11:49:14 +0200, Grischa Schuering wrote: The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format. What can we do? - Is there a patched GDLib somewhere? http://www.rime.com.au/gd/ man google ;-) Hajo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)
Hi, we are trying to get the open source cms Typo3 running on debian woody. The system requires GDLib/Freetype with GIF support installed. The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format. What can we do? - Is there a patched GDLib somewhere? - If not, how can we compile GDLib as shared object for php? Or is there anyone who has got the some problem or knows a solution Greetings, Grischa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)
Hi Grischa! A long time ago GIF was supported on GDlib, but, ths format was removed because it isn't free. I dont know if there is a manner to recompile GD with GIF support. Why don't you use PNG instead? sorry about my poor english, and greetz from Brasil! []s Auro - Original Message - From: Grischa Schuering [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:49 AM Subject: GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms) Hi, we are trying to get the open source cms Typo3 running on debian woody. The system requires GDLib/Freetype with GIF support installed. The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format. What can we do? - Is there a patched GDLib somewhere? - If not, how can we compile GDLib as shared object for php? Or is there anyone who has got the some problem or knows a solution Greetings, Grischa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]