CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Ross, Chris
I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12
teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project
web space.  There are a lot of products out there but most of them are
not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site.  This
does not have to scale too big.  A few thousand user sites max.  (  We
have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500
users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. )

Criteria:

1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
have been allowed to work and no other area.

2. Web browser accessible.  GUI editor.

3. EASY to use for non technical folks!

4. Little modification needed.



We installed quite a few products.  Some were quite easy to use
but there was little access granularity.  Others like typo3 were quite
granular but the end users would go into vapor lock if they ever saw the
interface.

The closest thing we have hit, our of the box, is Plone.
Setting it up for personal web space is trivial.  The Epos editor is
fairly simple to use.  The one big advantage with Plone for students
would be the ability to configure a teacher as to verify content before
it is posted to the Internet.  It would almost be a go right out of the
box.  Minor mods so that folks can't set up their own web space without
authorization, our logo etc.  The biggest problem that I have with Plone
is that we have no experience with Zope based applications.
Documentation for Plone is quite lacking.  Backup and disaster recovery
are complete unknowns to us on this type of system.

Any help with suggested/known products or RTFM pointers would be
greatly appreciated.







Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread David Thurman
On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:

 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
 have been allowed to work and no other area.
 
 2. Web browser accessible.  GUI editor.
 
 3. EASY to use for non technical folks!
 
 4. Little modification needed.

Look at MamboServer.Com
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Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread Debian ISP
David Thurman wrote:
On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:
 

1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
have been allowed to work and no other area.
2. Web browser accessible.  GUI editor.
3. EASY to use for non technical folks!
4. Little modification needed.
   

Look at MamboServer.Com
 

We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user 
documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good 
but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a 
little daunting.

Hal
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RE: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread Ross, Chris
We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo.

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David Thurman wrote:

On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:

  

1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
have been allowed to work and no other area.

2. Web browser accessible.  GUI editor.

3. EASY to use for non technical folks!

4. Little modification needed.



Look at MamboServer.Com
  

We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user 
documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good 
but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a 
little daunting.

Hal


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Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread David Thurman
On 11/22/04 9:13 AM, Debian ISP wrote:

 We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user
 documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good
 but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a
 little daunting.

I thought that Robert or Emir had some user documentation done. You may want
to contact them, they have a forum going, been a while since we have been
there. We used to be one of the project leaders, but have since left. They
are very responsive though.
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Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread David Thurman
On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:

 We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo.

What do you mean by granular?
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RE: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread Ross, Chris
My recollection was that the you could set up a user then grant
them an access level.  At that point, the access level applied to the
entire Mambo site.  There was not a way to set up an area for each user
then grant that user access only to that area.

If you were granted the ability to create new items, you could
do that anywhere is the site.  If you had edit rites, you could edit
anywhere in that site (or virtual site).

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On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:

 We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo.

What do you mean by granular?
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Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread Debian ISP
Ross, Chris wrote:
My recollection was that the you could set up a user then grant
them an access level.  At that point, the access level applied to the
entire Mambo site.  There was not a way to set up an area for each user
then grant that user access only to that area.
If you were granted the ability to create new items, you could
do that anywhere is the site.  If you had edit rites, you could edit
anywhere in that site (or virtual site).
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On 11/22/04 9:17 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:
 

We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo.
   

What do you mean by granular?
 

I recall seeing a module that allowed for such controls. I would send a 
link from mosforge but it looks like they are experiencing technical 
difficulties this afternoon.


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Re: CMS [Scanned]

2004-11-22 Thread Dmitry Golubev
From my experience, if you want an extensive ACLs, try tikiwiki; if you want 
easy-to-use and powerfull system without ACLs, try mediawiki

Dmitry

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  We did not see a way to get very granular with Mambo.

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 David Thurman wrote:
 On 11/22/04 8:46 AM, Ross, Chris wrote:
 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
 have been allowed to work and no other area.
 
 2. Web browser accessible.  GUI editor.
 
 3. EASY to use for non technical folks!
 
 4. Little modification needed.
 
 Look at MamboServer.Com

 We are using Mambo on a few projects. Have you found any good user
 documentation? The technical/administrative information is pretty good
 but to walk a user through the basic content creation process seems a
 little daunting.

 Hal



Re: CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:46:47AM -0500, Ross, Chris wrote:
  I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12
 teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project
 web space. There are a lot of products out there but most of them are
 not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site. This
 does not have to scale too big. A few thousand user sites max. ( We
 have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500
 users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. )

 Criteria:

 1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
 have been allowed to work and no other area.

 2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor.

 3. EASY to use for non technical folks!

 4. Little modification needed.

dunno if it's what you want, but there's a kind of clone of yahoo groups
called GNU Glubs (GNU Clubbing System).

when i last looked at, about a year ago, it was missing a few features compared
to yahoo, but it seemed to do the basic job.

sourceforge project page is at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/glubs/


doesn't look like it's been changed since Feb 2003.

it's in perl, can use postgresql (or mysql too, i think) as the db backend, and
the code was relatively easy to understand and modify.  works with apache 
CGI, or apache with mod-perl.

not finished, but a pretty good base, i thought.


craig

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Re: CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:20:33AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
 it's in perl, can use postgresql (or mysql too, i think) as the db backend,

oops, wrong.  it uses mysql, not postgres.  i hacked it to work with postgres
on my system because i didn't want to install rubbish like mysql.

craig

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Re: CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:20:33AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 09:46:47AM -0500, Ross, Chris wrote:
   I am looking for a web content management system to allow K12
  teachers and possibly students to easily maintain personal or project
  web space. There are a lot of products out there but most of them are
  not set up to allow access to one area and not the entire site. This
  does not have to scale too big. A few thousand user sites max. ( We
  have no idea what the user load will be since we only have 400 to 500
  users now and most don't keep their sites up to date. )
 
  Criteria:
 
  1. Access control that would allow someone access to areas that they
  have been allowed to work and no other area.
 
  2. Web browser accessible. GUI editor.
 
  3. EASY to use for non technical folks!
 
  4. Little modification needed.

Plone.

It can be tricky to configure if you want to heavily customise it. It
can also be a bit slow for a heavily hammered site (squid frontends
recommended for very buisy sites). But it probably matches the above
requirements as close as you can get.

I believe there have even been K12 bootable CD's created for exactly
this application.

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Re: CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Gerhard Venter
Plone is good.  You can easily back it up with rsync:
http://www.zope.org/Members/jrush/howto_rsync_zope
There are also lots of documentation on the Plone site if you drill down. 

Ross, Chris wrote:
Documentation for Plone is quite lacking.  Backup and disaster recovery
are complete unknowns to us on this type of system.
Any help with suggested/known products or RTFM pointers would be
greatly appreciated.


 


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Re: CMS

2004-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:45:00 +1100, Donovan wrote in message 
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 I believe there have even been K12 bootable CD's created for exactly
 this application.

..http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixCustomizations 
mentions LivePlone which can be fetched off
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9295

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Re: GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)

2002-05-25 Thread Hajo Noerenberg
On Thu, 16 May 2002 11:49:14 +0200, Grischa Schuering wrote:

The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format.

What can we do?

- Is there a patched GDLib somewhere?

http://www.rime.com.au/gd/

man google ;-)

Hajo




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GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)

2002-05-16 Thread Grischa Schuering

Hi,

we are trying to get the open source cms Typo3 running on debian
woody.
The system requires GDLib/Freetype with GIF support installed.

The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format.

What can we do?

- Is there a patched GDLib somewhere?
- If not, how can we compile GDLib as shared object for php?

Or is there anyone who has got the some problem or knows a solution


Greetings,
Grischa


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Re: GDLib for PHP with GIF support (used by Typo3 cms)

2002-05-16 Thread Auro Florentino

Hi Grischa!
A long time ago GIF was supported on GDlib, but, ths format was removed
because it isn't free.
I dont know if there is a manner to recompile GD with GIF support.
Why don't you use PNG instead?

sorry about my poor english,
and greetz from Brasil!

[]s

Auro
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Hi,

we are trying to get the open source cms Typo3 running on debian
woody.
The system requires GDLib/Freetype with GIF support installed.

The Gdlib for php on woody supports just the png format.

What can we do?

- Is there a patched GDLib somewhere?
- If not, how can we compile GDLib as shared object for php?

Or is there anyone who has got the some problem or knows a solution


Greetings,
Grischa


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