multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.

2004-05-21 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan
My Debian box has two IP's running BIND 9. 209.113.151.5  and 209.113.151.7.
BIND is setup to listen on 209.113.151.7 and act as a slave server. However,
it makes the zone transfer from 209.113.151.5. The master server blocks
these request. Is there a way to make the request come from 209.113.151.7.


May 21 10:56:50 cp named[966]: client 209.113.151.5#4590: zone transfer
'hotsyboston.com/IN' deni


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Re: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.

2004-05-21 Thread Andreas John
Are you looking for somethings like that?
/etc/bind/named.conf.options [included via include 
/etc/bind/named.conf.options; in /etc/bind/named.conf]

[snip]
version Windows 3.11;
notify yes;
query-source address 209.113.151.7;
notify-source 209.113.151.7;
transfer-source 209.113.151.7;
allow-query { any; };
allow-transfer { any; };
[snap]
rgds,
Andreas
Andrew P. Kaplan wrote:
My Debian box has two IP's running BIND 9. 209.113.151.5  and 209.113.151.7.
BIND is setup to listen on 209.113.151.7 and act as a slave server. However,
it makes the zone transfer from 209.113.151.5. The master server blocks
these request. Is there a way to make the request come from 209.113.151.7.
May 21 10:56:50 cp named[966]: client 209.113.151.5#4590: zone transfer
'hotsyboston.com/IN' deni
Andrew P. Kaplan
www.cshore.com
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pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half-hour, Larry Page, one
of Google's co-founders


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Re: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.

2004-05-21 Thread Christian Storch
Perhaps

options {
...
query-source address 209.113.151.7 port 53;
...
};

would help.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: Andrew P. Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-Isp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.


 My Debian box has two IP's running BIND 9. 209.113.151.5  and 209.113.151.7.
 BIND is setup to listen on 209.113.151.7 and act as a slave server. However,
 it makes the zone transfer from 209.113.151.5. The master server blocks
 these request. Is there a way to make the request come from 209.113.151.7.
 
 
 May 21 10:56:50 cp named[966]: client 209.113.151.5#4590: zone transfer
 'hotsyboston.com/IN' deni
 
 
 Andrew P. Kaplan
 www.cshore.com
 
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 pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half-hour, Larry Page, one
 of Google's co-founders
 
 
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Re: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.

2004-05-21 Thread Andreas John
Are you looking for somethings like that?
/etc/bind/named.conf.options [included via include 
/etc/bind/named.conf.options; in /etc/bind/named.conf]

[snip]
version Windows 3.11;
notify yes;
query-source address 209.113.151.7;
notify-source 209.113.151.7;
transfer-source 209.113.151.7;
allow-query { any; };
allow-transfer { any; };
[snap]
rgds,
Andreas
Andrew P. Kaplan wrote:
My Debian box has two IP's running BIND 9. 209.113.151.5  and 209.113.151.7.
BIND is setup to listen on 209.113.151.7 and act as a slave server. However,
it makes the zone transfer from 209.113.151.5. The master server blocks
these request. Is there a way to make the request come from 209.113.151.7.
May 21 10:56:50 cp named[966]: client 209.113.151.5#4590: zone transfer
'hotsyboston.com/IN' deni
Andrew P. Kaplan
www.cshore.com
A management team distracted by a series of short-term targets is as
pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half-hour, Larry Page, one
of Google's co-founders


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Re: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.

2004-05-21 Thread Christian Storch
Perhaps

options {
...
query-source address 209.113.151.7 port 53;
...
};

would help.

Christian

- Original Message - 
From: Andrew P. Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-Isp debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: multiple IP addresses cause ZONE TRANSFER to fail.


 My Debian box has two IP's running BIND 9. 209.113.151.5  and 209.113.151.7.
 BIND is setup to listen on 209.113.151.7 and act as a slave server. However,
 it makes the zone transfer from 209.113.151.5. The master server blocks
 these request. Is there a way to make the request come from 209.113.151.7.
 
 
 May 21 10:56:50 cp named[966]: client 209.113.151.5#4590: zone transfer
 'hotsyboston.com/IN' deni
 
 
 Andrew P. Kaplan
 www.cshore.com
 
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 pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half-hour, Larry Page, one
 of Google's co-founders
 
 
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Re: specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-11 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 03:09:54PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
 Joel, can you please provide information on the experimental method for 
 specifying which IP addresses may be used to send mail from a particular 
 domain?

The one I personally like best, at the moment, is Paul Vixie's proposal
(draft-vixie-repudiating-mail-from); however, as has been pointed out,
most of the active, or remotely reasonable, proposals have come under the
aegis of the IETF ASRG working group, and probably belong there. None of
them currently have (nor are they likely to have in the immediate future)
enough weight to be terribly useful; the main benefit of the ASRG process
is that we will (almost certainly) end up with one protocol blessed with
full RFC status, which is a fairly major advantage in terms of convincing
mail software writers and DNS maintainers to actually implement it in a
widespread enough fashion that it will have noticeable impact.

I favor Vixie's proposal primarily because it's simple, elegant, and it
requires neither new DNS RR types, nor excessive handling of things which
are documented as poor DNS practice, such as widecards. Anything requiring
DNS upgrades will take at least five years, if not longer, before it is
deployed in sufficient density to be meaningful - many folks still run BIND
4 based resolvers. And the merits of avoiding the use of poor DNS practices
should be, well, obvious. Using one special hostname that is unlikely to be
used for anything else on an operational network isn't such a high price,
by comparison, and it can be implemented entirely at the application level
using well-established query pathways (even resolvers that break things
like wildcards are unlikely to break MX+priority information).

However, as I said, I'm betting that none of them will gain much steam
until the ASRG renders a decision. So we'll just have to see what comes out
of it.
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Re: specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 10, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The method in question has never taken off because of lack of application 
 support.  If we make all mail servers in Debian support it then that could be 
 what is needed to make it a success.  I would be happy to devote some coding 
 time to this if it can result in a net reduction of SPAM.
Sadly it's more complex than this.
Protocols like SPF (http://spf.pobox.com/, which I believe is the best
of them) did not take off because of multiple reasons. If you are
seriously interested in this then I suggest you look at the past
threads on SPAM-L and the other appropriate forums.

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specifying which IP addresses can send mail for a domain

2003-10-09 Thread Russell Coker
Joel, can you please provide information on the experimental method for 
specifying which IP addresses may be used to send mail from a particular 
domain?

The method of using DNS to specify that only certain IP address ranges may 
send mail purporting to be From: your domain has the potential to offer 
significant benefits for spam blocking as well as allowing us to reduce our 
reliance on other methods (eg the contentious services such as 
dynablock.easynet.nl which get debated on these lists).

I would be happy to configure my servers to avoid checking the dial-up lists 
if such a method could be used instead, and I think that this would make a 
lot of people happy.

The method in question has never taken off because of lack of application 
support.  If we make all mail servers in Debian support it then that could be 
what is needed to make it a success.  I would be happy to devote some coding 
time to this if it can result in a net reduction of SPAM.

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IP addresses

2000-08-19 Thread Andrius Kasparavicius


 hello, maybe somewhere is information about how many IP addresses is used
as network and broadcast address today? How many addresses is unused yet?
When has been created IPv4?

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IP addresses

2000-08-19 Thread Andrius Kasparavicius

 hello, maybe somewhere is information about how many IP addresses is used
as network and broadcast address today? How many addresses is unused yet?
When has been created IPv4?

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Re: IP addresses

2000-08-19 Thread Gerard MacNeil
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Andrius Kasparavicius wrote:

 
  hello, maybe somewhere is information about how many IP addresses is used
 as network and broadcast address today? How many addresses is unused yet?
 When has been created IPv4?

http://www.nua.ie/surveys/ would be a good place to start looking.

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RE: ip addresses

2000-08-09 Thread Jamie Bumsted
Have you ever had a problem with people spoofing MAC addresses
to get IP's?
We haven't run into that yet.
Seems like if they're going to the trouble to give you the MAC address you
might as
well give them fixed ip's.
This is a good point, as it is a direct connection the customer is 
always
online  with us.  We have to have one IP for each customer, at least.  I am
not sure why
the decision was made to go this route (I wasn't with the company at the
time,
and the guy who made the decision is the one I replaced.)  I think they
were
having problems keeping track of who had what ip address.  From what I 
hear
my
predecessor fealt DHCP was safer for our customers, he thought if we 
used
DHCP that it would be more difficult to crack one of our customers
computers.
Have you ever had anybody try to scram your network?
Not yet...knock on wood.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Wagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:22 PM
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: ip addresses


Interesting.  Have you ever had a problem with people spoofing MAC addresses
to get IP's?  How does your system react if more than one host presents a
request for an IP if that MAC has already been assigned an IP?  Seems like
if they're going to the trouble to give you the MAC address you might as
well give them fixed ip's.  Do you have more customers than IP's?  Have you
ever had anybody try to scram your network? :)


At 11:17 AM 8/8/00 -0500, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
then have a linux box running DHCPD right before the customer hits the
router.  They must give us their mac address and we place that in the
DHCPD.CONF file and allow only known hosts.

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Re: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Russell Coker

On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
Hi all!
Just wondering what most people do for customer IP addresses.  I am new to
the ISP business and the system that I have taken over assigns routable ip's
to customers via DHCP.  I was just wondering if anyone used private IP's and
applied NAT to their customers or if that can even be done.

Sure, NAT is easy to apply to customers.  But it is a lower quality of
service (they can't run servers, and custom programs may not work through
NAT).  If they have an implied contract which involves real IP addresses then
applying NAT to them would be a breach of contract.

I have worked for ISPs that offer various types of service, some of which had
NAT.  At one ISP they paid more because it was part of a service to protect
users from accessing pr0n sites.  ;)

How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?

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RE: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Jamie Bumsted


How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?
We provide wireless high speed internet. The customers have a cable modem
in their home that connects to an antenna on their roof.  It is a microwave
signal to our tower, that gets translated into ethernet in our tower hut, we
then have a linux box running DHCPD right before the customer hits the
router.  They must give us their mac address and we place that in the
DHCPD.CONF file and allow only known hosts.


-Original Message-
From: Russell Coker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:52 AM
To: Jamie Bumsted; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ip addresses


On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
Hi all!
Just wondering what most people do for customer IP addresses.  I am new to
the ISP business and the system that I have taken over assigns routable
ip's
to customers via DHCP.  I was just wondering if anyone used private IP's
and
applied NAT to their customers or if that can even be done.

Sure, NAT is easy to apply to customers.  But it is a lower quality of
service (they can't run servers, and custom programs may not work through
NAT).  If they have an implied contract which involves real IP addresses
then
applying NAT to them would be a breach of contract.

I have worked for ISPs that offer various types of service, some of which
had
NAT.  At one ISP they paid more because it was part of a service to protect
users from accessing pr0n sites.  ;)

How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?

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RE: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Chris Wagner

Interesting.  Have you ever had a problem with people spoofing MAC addresses
to get IP's?  How does your system react if more than one host presents a
request for an IP if that MAC has already been assigned an IP?  Seems like
if they're going to the trouble to give you the MAC address you might as
well give them fixed ip's.  Do you have more customers than IP's?  Have you
ever had anybody try to scram your network? :)


At 11:17 AM 8/8/00 -0500, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
then have a linux box running DHCPD right before the customer hits the
router.  They must give us their mac address and we place that in the
DHCPD.CONF file and allow only known hosts.

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| George W. Bush Alan Keyes Hey, Atleast They're Not Robots |
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Re: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
Hi all!
Just wondering what most people do for customer IP addresses.  I am new to
the ISP business and the system that I have taken over assigns routable ip's
to customers via DHCP.  I was just wondering if anyone used private IP's and
applied NAT to their customers or if that can even be done.

Sure, NAT is easy to apply to customers.  But it is a lower quality of
service (they can't run servers, and custom programs may not work through
NAT).  If they have an implied contract which involves real IP addresses then
applying NAT to them would be a breach of contract.

I have worked for ISPs that offer various types of service, some of which had
NAT.  At one ISP they paid more because it was part of a service to protect
users from accessing pr0n sites.  ;)

How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?

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X
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RE: ip addresses

2000-08-08 Thread Jamie Bumsted

How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?
We provide wireless high speed internet. The customers have a cable 
modem
in their home that connects to an antenna on their roof.  It is a microwave
signal to our tower, that gets translated into ethernet in our tower hut, we
then have a linux box running DHCPD right before the customer hits the
router.  They must give us their mac address and we place that in the
DHCPD.CONF file and allow only known hosts.


-Original Message-
From: Russell Coker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:52 AM
To: Jamie Bumsted; debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ip addresses


On Mon, 07 Aug 2000, Jamie Bumsted wrote:
Hi all!
Just wondering what most people do for customer IP addresses.  I am new to
the ISP business and the system that I have taken over assigns routable
ip's
to customers via DHCP.  I was just wondering if anyone used private IP's
and
applied NAT to their customers or if that can even be done.

Sure, NAT is easy to apply to customers.  But it is a lower quality of
service (they can't run servers, and custom programs may not work through
NAT).  If they have an implied contract which involves real IP addresses
then
applying NAT to them would be a breach of contract.

I have worked for ISPs that offer various types of service, some of which
had
NAT.  At one ISP they paid more because it was part of a service to protect
users from accessing pr0n sites.  ;)

How do you apply IPs via DHCP anyway?

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ip addresses

2000-08-07 Thread Jamie Bumsted
Hi all!
Just wondering what most people do for customer IP addresses.  I am new to
the ISP business and the system that I have taken over assigns routable ip's
to customers via DHCP.  I was just wondering if anyone used private IP's and
applied NAT to their customers or if that can even be done.

TIA
Jamie Bumsted
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