Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 06:16:14AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> Any other ideas? That one looked pretty good. I wish they had one that
> translated the stuff directly to asci data that could be pumped over
> an ethernet connection ;-)

connect the serial ports of two servers to each other with null-modem
cables. compile serial console support into the kernel and configure
lilo for serial console.

if you have more than two machines, it may be worthwhile setting up a
terminal server boxan old cisco or annex or whatever or a linux box
with a cheap multi-port serial carde.g. a 1RU celeron with an 8-port
MOXA card.

this gives you remote console access from the time that the LILO prompt
appears.

if you need remote access to the BIOS then it is possible to buy
machines with a serial console BIOS, and it's also possible to upgrade
the BIOS on some motherboards.



linux boxes are cheaper than brand-name terminal servers, and can also
run ssh rather than telnet (recent versions of ciscos can also run ssh,
but i've heard that it's not terribly reliable and it requires you to
upgrade IOS to unreliable beta versions).

if a machine goes down, ssh to the terminal server machine and run
minicom to communicate with it.




btw, a linux-based terminal server can also be configured to log the
boot messages from the serial console. 


craig

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Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Craig Sanders

On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 06:16:14AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> Any other ideas? That one looked pretty good. I wish they had one that
> translated the stuff directly to asci data that could be pumped over
> an ethernet connection ;-)

connect the serial ports of two servers to each other with null-modem
cables. compile serial console support into the kernel and configure
lilo for serial console.

if you have more than two machines, it may be worthwhile setting up a
terminal server boxan old cisco or annex or whatever or a linux box
with a cheap multi-port serial carde.g. a 1RU celeron with an 8-port
MOXA card.

this gives you remote console access from the time that the LILO prompt
appears.

if you need remote access to the BIOS then it is possible to buy
machines with a serial console BIOS, and it's also possible to upgrade
the BIOS on some motherboards.



linux boxes are cheaper than brand-name terminal servers, and can also
run ssh rather than telnet (recent versions of ciscos can also run ssh,
but i've heard that it's not terribly reliable and it requires you to
upgrade IOS to unreliable beta versions).

if a machine goes down, ssh to the terminal server machine and run
minicom to communicate with it.




btw, a linux-based terminal server can also be configured to log the
boot messages from the serial console. 


craig

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Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Jason Lim
Hi,

Looks good but unfortunately is ISA only :-/

Since many of our servers don't have legacy ISA support, it won't work :-/

Any other ideas? That one looked pretty good. I wish they had one that
translated the stuff directly to asci data that could be pumped over an
ethernet connection ;-)

Sincerely,
Jason

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To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: KVM via Internet?


> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 03:41:26AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
> > access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?
>
> I think you are looking for a RealWeasel 2000
>
> I think it's www.realweasel.com
>
> Try it is should do what you like (convert video to text and put it
on
> the serial/network... and put input from serial to keyboard in...
>
> It converts to serial... but you can connect the serial to another
server or
> whatever to make it networked...
>
> They even have a telnettable demo system so you can try for yerself...
>
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Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Mark Janssen
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 03:41:26AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
> access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?

I think you are looking for a RealWeasel 2000

I think it's www.realweasel.com

Try it is should do what you like (convert video to text and put it on
the serial/network... and put input from serial to keyboard in...

It converts to serial... but you can connect the serial to another server or
whatever to make it networked...

They even have a telnettable demo system so you can try for yerself...

-- 
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E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178
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KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Jason Lim
Hi,

I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?

Everyone knows about the cheapo products that you have to press a button
to switch between computers and stuff, but how about being able to
accessed these over the net (especially useful if you live far away from
the datacenter)?

Just in case you're not sure of what I'm talking about, I mean something
like the Rose Ultralink (http://www.rosel.com/htm/ultralink.htm). It is
nearly exactly what I need, BUT... the cost... is almost astronomical. I
don't need those 64 port things... this is just for about 4-5 servers.

I'm not sure if there is some way to hook up those cheap "push button
KVMs" to a server, and have the server pass the video feed over the net
somehow. Perhaps some video capture card in a server could be hooked up to
those cheap KVMs to pass the video feed that way? There seem to be lots of
POSSIBLE ways to do it, but I'm not exactly sure how.

The main reason for all this is to be able to see what I would normally
see sitting in front of the server during bootup, so, for example, if I
see e2fsck fail during bootup (requiring root password and a manual e2fsck
run), I would be able to do something about it rather than go all the way
to the datacenter just to press the Y key a few times and reboot. (if you
guys know a good way to get around that, that would be great too,
especially if I can't find any solution for the above).

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,
Jason





Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Jason Lim

Hi,

Looks good but unfortunately is ISA only :-/

Since many of our servers don't have legacy ISA support, it won't work :-/

Any other ideas? That one looked pretty good. I wish they had one that
translated the stuff directly to asci data that could be pumped over an
ethernet connection ;-)

Sincerely,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: KVM via Internet?


> On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 03:41:26AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
> > access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?
>
> I think you are looking for a RealWeasel 2000
>
> I think it's www.realweasel.com
>
> Try it is should do what you like (convert video to text and put it
on
> the serial/network... and put input from serial to keyboard in...
>
> It converts to serial... but you can connect the serial to another
server or
> whatever to make it networked...
>
> They even have a telnettable demo system so you can try for yerself...
>
> --
> Mark Janssen Unix Consultant @ SyConOS IT
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178
> http: maniac.nl, unix-god.[net|org], markjanssen.[com|net|org|nl]
> Fax/VoiceMail: +31 84 8757555 Finger for GPG and GeekCode
>
>
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Re: KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Mark Janssen

On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 03:41:26AM +0800, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
> access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?

I think you are looking for a RealWeasel 2000

I think it's www.realweasel.com

Try it is should do what you like (convert video to text and put it on
the serial/network... and put input from serial to keyboard in...

It converts to serial... but you can connect the serial to another server or
whatever to make it networked...

They even have a telnettable demo system so you can try for yerself...

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E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178
http: maniac.nl, unix-god.[net|org], markjanssen.[com|net|org|nl]
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KVM via Internet?

2001-06-24 Thread Jason Lim

Hi,

I was wondering if you guys know of any cost-effective KVM (remote
access/control) solution that can be accessed over the internet?

Everyone knows about the cheapo products that you have to press a button
to switch between computers and stuff, but how about being able to
accessed these over the net (especially useful if you live far away from
the datacenter)?

Just in case you're not sure of what I'm talking about, I mean something
like the Rose Ultralink (http://www.rosel.com/htm/ultralink.htm). It is
nearly exactly what I need, BUT... the cost... is almost astronomical. I
don't need those 64 port things... this is just for about 4-5 servers.

I'm not sure if there is some way to hook up those cheap "push button
KVMs" to a server, and have the server pass the video feed over the net
somehow. Perhaps some video capture card in a server could be hooked up to
those cheap KVMs to pass the video feed that way? There seem to be lots of
POSSIBLE ways to do it, but I'm not exactly sure how.

The main reason for all this is to be able to see what I would normally
see sitting in front of the server during bootup, so, for example, if I
see e2fsck fail during bootup (requiring root password and a manual e2fsck
run), I would be able to do something about it rather than go all the way
to the datacenter just to press the Y key a few times and reboot. (if you
guys know a good way to get around that, that would be great too,
especially if I can't find any solution for the above).

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,
Jason



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