Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-19 Thread Bertrand PERRINE
Le mer 19/02/2003 à 08:38, Alexander Reelsen a écrit :
> Hi
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:00:06PM -0500, Theodore Knab wrote:
> > I also heard that Oracle uses its own filesystem on top of 
> > whatever filesystem you use.
> Yes, that's true.
It's not a really filesystem, it's just an independant filesystem block
oriented data in files.
> You often just use a raw file system to install oracle, so oracle wont
> suffer from I/O problems of a second involved file system, as oracle
> comes with its own buffermechanism for files. This is more efficient.
It's false on linux actually, ext2, ext3 and JFS are more efficients
because of really good I/O buffers.
> 
> > Additionally, the RedHat people compile special kernels for
> > running Oracle. You might want to see why.
> Really? I had mind increasing shared memory size was sufficient. Might be
> some special tweaking kernel stuff.
I confirm about shared memory.
Specials kernels of Red Hat are for clusters.
> 
> Someone knows more?
> 
> > This howto might be helpful even though it is for RedHat.
> > http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml
> Nice one, bookmarked
> 
> 
> MfG/Regards, Alexander
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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-19 Thread Bertrand PERRINE
At my work, i'd installed for tests purposes :

Oracle 8i on Debian Potato
Oracle 9i on Debian Woody
Oracle 9ir2 on Debian Woody

all works fine.

Some good pages are : 
http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~owend/free/oracle-linux.html
and 
http://otn.oracle.com/tech/linux/content.html

Don't forget the kernel parameters about semaphores, it's the most
important to have an Oracle stable database.
My kernels are standards (2.2.20 & 2.4.18/20) without patches. (for now)

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RE: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-19 Thread C. R. Oldham
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:00:06PM -0500, Theodore Knab wrote:
> > I also heard that Oracle uses its own filesystem on top of
> > whatever filesystem you use.

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> Yes, that's true.

Not generally on Linux, and unless Alexander has more recent information
than I do, Oracle (the company) doesn't really like you to use raw
partitions and it doesn't offer that much of a performance increase.
Theodore might be thinking of Oracle's IFS ("Internet File System")
which lets you store content in the database and expose it as a network
filesystem.

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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Reelsen
Hi

On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 08:00:06PM -0500, Theodore Knab wrote:
> I also heard that Oracle uses its own filesystem on top of 
> whatever filesystem you use.
Yes, that's true.
You often just use a raw file system to install oracle, so oracle wont
suffer from I/O problems of a second involved file system, as oracle
comes with its own buffermechanism for files. This is more efficient.

> Additionally, the RedHat people compile special kernels for
> running Oracle. You might want to see why.
Really? I had mind increasing shared memory size was sufficient. Might be
some special tweaking kernel stuff.

Someone knows more?

> This howto might be helpful even though it is for RedHat.
> http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml
Nice one, bookmarked


MfG/Regards, Alexander

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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-18 Thread Theodore Knab
I also heard that Oracle uses its own filesystem on top of 
whatever filesystem you use.

Additionally, the RedHat people compile special kernels for
running Oracle. You might want to see why.

This howto might be helpful even though it is for RedHat.
http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml

>On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:
>Does anyone know much about Oracle on Linux?  If so can you please give me 
>some quick advice on how difficult it is to install, whether it runs well on 
>Debian, etc.

>Also I am particularly interested in an overview of how the different Oracle 
>processes interact.


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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-18 Thread Erik Wenzel
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:39:59AM +, Rajeev Sharma wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> As i installed oracle 8i on my debian box ..and used .. 
> 
> oracle 8.1.7
> glibc 2.2.5
> JDK 1.1.8 
> 
> The main problem was to find out the JDK version 
> as JDK comes with the support od glibc 2.1.2,2.1.3 etc...
> and if you don't use compatable version of JDK, it gives segmentation 
> faults during installation. 
That's why you need the 'glibc-2.1.3-stubs.tar.gz' from technet.o.c on
woody. Oracle-8.1.7 comes with jre-1.1.8 and IIRC an 'jdk1.1' is only
needed if want to install oracle's httpd server (an apache).

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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-17 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi,

On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:

> Does anyone know much about Oracle on Linux?  If so can you please give me 
> some quick advice on how difficult it is to install, whether it runs well on 
> Debian, etc.

It is an absolute bitch to install on Debian, mostly because the
installer is Java-based. 9i insists of installing its own JDK when it
sees Linux, but this one happens to segfault on woody. So, you need to
go to the temporary directory where Oracle unpacks its files, install
a working JDK there, and continue the process.

8.0.5 was a lot better; the dependency on glibc 2.0.7 that version had
is easier to satisfy than the horrible Java mess.

> Also I am particularly interested in an overview of how the different Oracle 
> processes interact.

See
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96521/part2.htm#996974

(you may need to sign up)

Cheers,


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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-17 Thread Rajeev Sharma
Hi, 

As i installed oracle 8i on my debian box ..and used .. 

oracle 8.1.7
glibc 2.2.5
JDK 1.1.8 

The main problem was to find out the JDK version 
as JDK comes with the support od glibc 2.1.2,2.1.3 etc...
and if you don't use compatable version of JDK, it gives segmentation faults 
during installation. 

Hope above list of versions os required software will help you .. 

Thanks
Rajeev Sharma
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Does anyone know much about Oracle on Linux?  If so can you please give me
some quick advice on how difficult it is to install, whether it runs well
on
Debian, etc. 

Also I am particularly interested in an overview of how the different
Oracle
processes interact. 

I have a potential opportunity to make some money from such work in a
couple
of weeks, so if there's an Oracle/Linux expert looking for work then
there's
possibilities there too... 


Rajeev Sharma
DeepRoot Linux
Bangalore 


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Re: Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-17 Thread Rod Rodolico
Oracle/Linux expert. Well, I installed it 8.something once a few years ago :(

First, it is not fun. Second, don't put anything other than Oracle on the
box . . . it positively does not play nice with others.

As far as the install is concerned, it was pretty straightforward, but the
configuration was a royal pain. I remember thinking "wow, this is great"
when I was installing, but all went downhill from there.

If I remember correctly, it works best if you place the different parts of
Oracle on different partitions. I don't remember why, and I may be getting
it mixed up with the Windoze Oracle installs I've done. I did the install
on a Deb box.

Are you aware you can go to tech.oracle.com and, theoretically, download a
copy of it. If you have a spare box around you can install on it and have
a better feel for what you are getting yourself into.

I trashed the install after I had done it and put postgre on instead. I
mainly did it to prove I could. postgre plays nice with others.

If you have any problems and can not find someone with more recent
experience, write me and I'll try to help.

Remember, all this was a couple of years ago, so I'm assuming things have
changed a bit.

Rod

> Does anyone know much about Oracle on Linux?  If so can you please give me
> some quick advice on how difficult it is to install, whether it runs well
> on
> Debian, etc.
>
> Also I am particularly interested in an overview of how the different
> Oracle
> processes interact.
>
> I have a potential opportunity to make some money from such work in a
> couple
> of weeks, so if there's an Oracle/Linux expert looking for work then
> there's
> possibilities there too...
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Oracle 9i on Linux

2003-02-17 Thread Russell Coker
Does anyone know much about Oracle on Linux?  If so can you please give me 
some quick advice on how difficult it is to install, whether it runs well on 
Debian, etc.

Also I am particularly interested in an overview of how the different Oracle 
processes interact.

I have a potential opportunity to make some money from such work in a couple 
of weeks, so if there's an Oracle/Linux expert looking for work then there's 
possibilities there too...

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