Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Jason Lim
You might also want to check out:

http://www.qmail.org/

and vpopmail Debian package.

The basic idea is that you don't use real usernames that exist on the
server, but instead create "fake" ones (such as a user called
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) just for checking pop3 email.

Do some reading... also check out http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ which
describes how to do it with Qmail (and no doubt other mail software have
their own guides).

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Cates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: POP3 accounts


Hi,

I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and therefore I'm trying to
learn more on various (technical) aspects of the business.  So I would
really appreciate it if somebody would explain to me how I for example can
have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an ISP, when I really have
only one real/login account.  I've really learned alot from my Debian 3.0
server I've setup, but some things just seem to elude me.  Would it be in
the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  Because I can't imagine the
ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3 account, and then that
times 1000+ real customer accounts.

Thank you very much for your help!!
Robert




Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Michael Hirdes
very good documentation on how to do postfix & mysql in an isp
environment ist here: 

http://workaround.org/ispmail.shtml

btw: thanks to christoph haas for this.

bet wishes,

michael

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fax:040-51304924


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Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Erik Grinaker
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 12:02, Robert Cates wrote:
> I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and therefore I'm trying to
> learn more on various (technical) aspects of the business.  So I would
> really appreciate it if somebody would explain to me how I for example
> can have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an ISP, when I really
> have only one real/login account.  I've really learned alot from my
> Debian 3.0 server I've setup, but some things just seem to elude me. 
> Would it be in the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  Because I
> can't imagine the ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3
> account, and then that times 1000+ real customer accounts.

Well, the way I have done it is by not using system accounts for email
at all. All mail is owned by the "mail" user on the system, and the
various POP boxes are stored in a MySQL database.

The SMTP server looks up mail accounts in the MySQL database, and stores
email (in maildir format) to /var/spool/mail/virtual/domain.com/user/.
The POP3 server also works against the MySQL database, and fetches the
email from the correct mailbox.

I use Exim as an SMTP server, and tpop3d as a POP3 server. Both support
looking up account info in a MySQL database.

There are many different ways to handle this, but it's always done by
looking up mail accounts in a different backend than the system account
database (for example flatfiles, LDAP, MySQL and so on).


-- 
Erik Grinaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://erikg.wired-networks.net/

"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of
life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be
enthusiastic about."
  -- Albert Einstein




POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Robert Cates



Hi,
 
I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and 
therefore I'm trying to learn more on various (technical) aspects of 
the business.  So I would really appreciate it if somebody would explain to 
me how I for example can have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an 
ISP, when I really have only one real/login account.  I've really 
learned alot from my Debian 3.0 server I've setup, but some things just seem to 
elude me.  Would it be in the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  
Because I can't imagine the ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3 
account, and then that times 1000+ real customer accounts.
 
Thank you very much for your help!!
Robert


Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Jason Lim
You might also want to check out:

http://www.qmail.org/

and vpopmail Debian package.

The basic idea is that you don't use real usernames that exist on the
server, but instead create "fake" ones (such as a user called
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) just for checking pop3 email.

Do some reading... also check out http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ which
describes how to do it with Qmail (and no doubt other mail software have
their own guides).

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Cates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: POP3 accounts


Hi,

I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and therefore I'm trying to
learn more on various (technical) aspects of the business.  So I would
really appreciate it if somebody would explain to me how I for example can
have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an ISP, when I really have
only one real/login account.  I've really learned alot from my Debian 3.0
server I've setup, but some things just seem to elude me.  Would it be in
the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  Because I can't imagine the
ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3 account, and then that
times 1000+ real customer accounts.

Thank you very much for your help!!
Robert


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Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Michael Hirdes
very good documentation on how to do postfix & mysql in an isp
environment ist here: 

http://workaround.org/ispmail.shtml

btw: thanks to christoph haas for this.

bet wishes,

michael

-- 
ELIOS 
http://www.elios.de
fon:040-53904349
fax:040-51304924


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Re: POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Erik Grinaker
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 12:02, Robert Cates wrote:
> I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and therefore I'm trying to
> learn more on various (technical) aspects of the business.  So I would
> really appreciate it if somebody would explain to me how I for example
> can have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an ISP, when I really
> have only one real/login account.  I've really learned alot from my
> Debian 3.0 server I've setup, but some things just seem to elude me. 
> Would it be in the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  Because I
> can't imagine the ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3
> account, and then that times 1000+ real customer accounts.

Well, the way I have done it is by not using system accounts for email
at all. All mail is owned by the "mail" user on the system, and the
various POP boxes are stored in a MySQL database.

The SMTP server looks up mail accounts in the MySQL database, and stores
email (in maildir format) to /var/spool/mail/virtual/domain.com/user/.
The POP3 server also works against the MySQL database, and fetches the
email from the correct mailbox.

I use Exim as an SMTP server, and tpop3d as a POP3 server. Both support
looking up account info in a MySQL database.

There are many different ways to handle this, but it's always done by
looking up mail accounts in a different backend than the system account
database (for example flatfiles, LDAP, MySQL and so on).


-- 
Erik Grinaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://erikg.wired-networks.net/

"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of
life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be
enthusiastic about."
  -- Albert Einstein


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POP3 accounts

2004-02-11 Thread Robert Cates



Hi,
 
I would like to get a job at a nearby ISP, and 
therefore I'm trying to learn more on various (technical) aspects of 
the business.  So I would really appreciate it if somebody would explain to 
me how I for example can have as many as 50 or so POP3 accounts with an 
ISP, when I really have only one real/login account.  I've really 
learned alot from my Debian 3.0 server I've setup, but some things just seem to 
elude me.  Would it be in the POP server configuration, like Qpopper?  
Because I can't imagine the ISP will setup 50 seperate accounts for each POP3 
account, and then that times 1000+ real customer accounts.
 
Thank you very much for your help!!
Robert