Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-19 Thread endre



On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

Based on observations of linux-kernel members it can be a weak power
supply or mainboard that can't cope with the Duron's increased
requirements when running an Athlon-optimized kernel.

-m-


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Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-19 Thread endre


On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

Based on observations of linux-kernel members it can be a weak power
supply or mainboard that can't cope with the Duron's increased
requirements when running an Athlon-optimized kernel.

-m-




Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-19 Thread Soenke von Stamm
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if i get it straight there is/was an issue with durons/athlons running on via 
kt chipsets and k7 optimized kernels:

the optimization uses some 3dnow+ code for faster memory access which leads 
to - well - unwanted effets. I read this somewhere in german c't, can't find 
it now. maybe try a k6 or pII/III optimezed kernel

yours
Sönke


Am Sonntag, 16. Dezember 2001 00:37 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello!

 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

 gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

 Thanks,

   Jorge-León
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Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-16 Thread Matt Ryan

Try this - hash out (or remove) the statements CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW from
PATH_TO_KERNEL_SRC/arch/i386/config.in then run make oldconfig and
rebuild the kernel as usual.


Matt.

- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:37 PM
Subject: Problems with Duron Procesor


 Hello!

 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

 gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

 Thanks,

 Jorge-León


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Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-16 Thread Jason Lim
Let me confirm to you that AMD Durons from 700-1.1G work perfectly with
Kernel 2.2.19 and 2.4.16.

We have over 10 such boxes running 2.4.16 and they are all rock solid.
Faster than the PIII and P4 boxes.

So whatever is going down, it is your motherboard, heatsink, something.
Just a reminder... Durons run EXTREMELY hot compared to PIII... we've
fried a few AMD CPUs due to the CPU fan either going too slow or stopping.
So use only high quality ball-bearing fans on them.

As for motherboards, we use only top quality ones from either ASUS or
Magic-Pro. Avoid using cheapo ones.

Try testing the RAM using memtest or something. that might help you.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Hope that helps you isolate the problem.

Sincerely,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Problems with Duron Procesor


 Hello!

 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

 gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

 Thanks,

 Jorge-León


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Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-16 Thread Matt Ryan
Try this - hash out (or remove) the statements CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW from
PATH_TO_KERNEL_SRC/arch/i386/config.in then run make oldconfig and
rebuild the kernel as usual.


Matt.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 11:37 PM
Subject: Problems with Duron Procesor


 Hello!

 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

 gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

 Thanks,

 Jorge-León


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Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-15 Thread Jason Lim

Let me confirm to you that AMD Durons from 700-1.1G work perfectly with
Kernel 2.2.19 and 2.4.16.

We have over 10 such boxes running 2.4.16 and they are all rock solid.
Faster than the PIII and P4 boxes.

So whatever is going down, it is your motherboard, heatsink, something.
Just a reminder... Durons run EXTREMELY hot compared to PIII... we've
fried a few AMD CPUs due to the CPU fan either going too slow or stopping.
So use only high quality ball-bearing fans on them.

As for motherboards, we use only top quality ones from either ASUS or
Magic-Pro. Avoid using cheapo ones.

Try testing the RAM using memtest or something. that might help you.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Hope that helps you isolate the problem.

Sincerely,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Problems with Duron Procesor


 Hello!

 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively

 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?

 gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

 Thanks,

 Jorge-León


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Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-15 Thread Jorge . Lehner
Hello!

We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.

When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
problem significatively

Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.

Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
with the AMD-Duron optimization?

gcc-version: 2.95.4 20010902 (Debian prerelease)

Thanks,

Jorge-León




Re: Problems with Duron Procesor

2001-12-15 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 05:37:31PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 
 We bought a Clone with a 950k, AMD-Duron Processor, Motherboard by
 Biostar to build an Intranet Server out of it.
 
 When installing a new Kernel (2.4.7), compiled for this processortype
 the machine stopped to work, because of severe Memory fault problems,
 reducing the access speed from 133 Mhz to 100 Mhz reduces the
 problem significatively
You might try running a newer (i.e. 2.4.16) kernel.
 
 Using a plain Pentium kernel we got no memory faults anymore.
 
 Is this a Motherboard/Memory problem, or is there any known problem
 with the AMD-Duron optimization?
For me it works fine with the woody gcc and kernel 2.4.9-2.4.16, with
proctype Duron.

I think you've flaky memory or a broken mainboard, running memtest86
(apt-get install hwtools, dd if=/usr/lib/hwtools/memtest86.bin
of=/dev/fd0 IIRC) might help.

HTH,
Alson