Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Hi, you could give a try to m23, a easy to use software distribution system. You can find all needed at http://m23.sf.net. It is easier to use and install than fai. Now m23 is in beta testing and may be good enough for needs. Try it. Regards, Hauke -- Stoppt TCPA, das Zensursystem von Microsoft! http://www.againsttcpa.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
--Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:57:31 +0200 Ulrich Scholler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Mon Oct 20, 2003 at 18:25:52 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: What should be my way forward? Would FAI work best or should I look at some scheme for creating a new release ISO instead? I think, as a happy user of FAI, that FAI is a very good tool for what you want to do. It is very fast and extremely flexible. Its downside is that the configuration takes a while and requires skripting skills. Agreed, FAI is impressive. Quite a hassle to set up if you have specific needs as custom kernels or pre-installing customized passwd/shadow files with md5 support. But once it works it takes a minute or so to get a new box up and running! So it's well worth the initial work you'll have to invest. The FAI mailinglist and esp. Thomas Lange is very helpful. Make sure you check the docs at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ Cheers, Marcel pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
--Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:57:31 +0200 Ulrich Scholler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Mon Oct 20, 2003 at 18:25:52 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: What should be my way forward? Would FAI work best or should I look at some scheme for creating a new release ISO instead? I think, as a happy user of FAI, that FAI is a very good tool for what you want to do. It is very fast and extremely flexible. Its downside is that the configuration takes a while and requires skripting skills. Agreed, FAI is impressive. Quite a hassle to set up if you have specific needs as custom kernels or pre-installing customized passwd/shadow files with md5 support. But once it works it takes a minute or so to get a new box up and running! So it's well worth the initial work you'll have to invest. The FAI mailinglist and esp. Thomas Lange is very helpful. Make sure you check the docs at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ Cheers, Marcel pgpjAYSNuhrZm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Hi, On Mon Oct 20, 2003 at 18:25:52 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: What should be my way forward? Would FAI work best or should I look at some scheme for creating a new release ISO instead? I think, as a happy user of FAI, that FAI is a very good tool for what you want to do. It is very fast and extremely flexible. Its downside is that the configuration takes a while and requires skripting skills. There is also a newer project called m23 (m23.sourceforge.net). It features a web-based configuration system and, other than FAI, also does administration and upgrades. I have not tried it so far. Both of the above tools perform a real installation, as opposed to copying an installation image and adapting that. Regards, uLI pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Hi, On Mon Oct 20, 2003 at 18:25:52 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: What should be my way forward? Would FAI work best or should I look at some scheme for creating a new release ISO instead? I think, as a happy user of FAI, that FAI is a very good tool for what you want to do. It is very fast and extremely flexible. Its downside is that the configuration takes a while and requires skripting skills. There is also a newer project called m23 (m23.sourceforge.net). It features a web-based configuration system and, other than FAI, also does administration and upgrades. I have not tried it so far. Both of the above tools perform a real installation, as opposed to copying an installation image and adapting that. Regards, uLI pgpWP8YfpKl2v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Am Mon, 2003-10-20 um 19.25 schrieb Steve Kemp: I think I want to trim down the installer such that I don't have to answer so many questions, and just input basic information like hostname, etc. Any pointers appreciated - I wasn't sure this is the best list but I assume any large ISP has some means of automated install and rollout of server machines. Apologies if this isn't the case .. Not really answering your question about mass-installing Debian but suggesting another solution/approach: Did you take a look at Gibraltar Linux (www.gibraltar.at)? It's a Debian GNU/Linux based Firewall-Distribution which will boot straight off the CD - should be ideal for your application as many encryption tools and kernel-patches are already applied to the stock-ISO. best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:47:18PM +0200, Markus Oswald wrote: Not really answering your question about mass-installing Debian but suggesting another solution/approach: Did you take a look at Gibraltar Linux (www.gibraltar.at)? It's a Debian GNU/Linux based Firewall-Distribution which will boot straight off the CD - should be ideal for your application as many encryption tools and kernel-patches are already applied to the stock-ISO. I didn't see that no, so thanks for the link. I'm downloading the ISO now, but I'm a little put of to see that it's going to be a commercial offering. I'm keen to stick to free software especially considering the most important components are going to be free. (I do appreciate the effort it must take to do the integration and bundling, not to mention testing. But I know that if I start suggesting a paid distribution I'll get bounced back to being told to use WatchGaurd Fireboxes or similar ..) I've just been playing with PGI the Progency installer and I'm thinking that might be enough to do the installs... Steve -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating custom, automated, Debian installs.
Am Mon, 2003-10-20 um 21.56 schrieb Steve Kemp: I'm downloading the ISO now, but I'm a little put of to see that it's going to be a commercial offering. I'm keen to stick to free software especially considering the most important components are going to be free. As far as I know only the Web-interface (which is currently under development and not even in the distribution) will be commercial, everything else of the distribution will stay free. If you don't need the Web-Interface or prefer to use the console to configure the system (as I do) you don't have to pay anything. best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
