Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-18 Thread Marco Kammerer
Michelle Konzack  wrote
> Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
> >Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.
>
> ??? Hardware Raid ???
>
> This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID.
> For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller.
>
>
also my opinion

kick out that promise stuff and get yourself a 3ware controller.

it is 1,5 time more expensive but has alot more features and is a lot more
reliable.

all you need to get the 3ware running is the normal bf24 kernel.
after installing with bf24 you can get yourself another 2.4.x kernel with
apt-get install ...

just dont waste your time with promise. i did it because i didnt want to
listen. dont make the same mistake

marco






Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-18 Thread Marco Kammerer
Michelle Konzack  wrote
> Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
> >Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.
>
> ??? Hardware Raid ???
>
> This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID.
> For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller.
>
>
also my opinion

kick out that promise stuff and get yourself a 3ware controller.

it is 1,5 time more expensive but has alot more features and is a lot more
reliable.

all you need to get the 3ware running is the normal bf24 kernel.
after installing with bf24 you can get yourself another 2.4.x kernel with
apt-get install ...

just dont waste your time with promise. i did it because i didnt want to
listen. dont make the same mistake

marco




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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time [SOLVED]

2003-03-18 Thread Christoph Löffler
Hi,
Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:
i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.

??? Hardware Raid ???
This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID. 
For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller. 

My partner got this as a RAID Solution from a local vendor together
with Hot Swap Chassis for the Harddisks.

So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
the IDE RAID.
With a Bootfloppy ;-))
It is possible to boot from the IDE RAID Array
I did the following:
- installed an additional IDE harddisk
- installed debian on this disk.
- built the kernel from source
- built the FastTrak.o kernel module driver from source
- built the kernel module driver for NIC from source (which also
  was not recognised)
- put the two modules on a floppy
- uninstalled additional ide
- booted from CD to install debian and loaded the two modules
  with the installer. The IDE Array was recognised as /dev/sda
- created parttions and so on.
- it works
what is still is something that would send an email if
one of the drive fails.
Thank you for the reply, Unfortunatly I didn't have enough time
to write a documentation about it and put it in the web.
Christoph
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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time [SOLVED]

2003-03-18 Thread Christoph Löffler
Hi,

Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:

i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.


??? Hardware Raid ???

This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID. 
For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller. 

My partner got this as a RAID Solution from a local vendor together
with Hot Swap Chassis for the Harddisks.

So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
the IDE RAID.
With a Bootfloppy ;-))
It is possible to boot from the IDE RAID Array

I did the following:

- installed an additional IDE harddisk
- installed debian on this disk.
- built the kernel from source
- built the FastTrak.o kernel module driver from source
- built the kernel module driver for NIC from source (which also
  was not recognised)
- put the two modules on a floppy
- uninstalled additional ide
- booted from CD to install debian and loaded the two modules
  with the installer. The IDE Array was recognised as /dev/sda
- created parttions and so on.
- it works
what is still is something that would send an email if
one of the drive fails.
Thank you for the reply, Unfortunatly I didn't have enough time
to write a documentation about it and put it in the web.
Christoph

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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 02:09 2003-03-01 +0100 hat Mark Schouten geschrieben:
>
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:32:50PM +0100, Christoph Loeffler wrote:

>Had this problem once. There are two options:
>
>1: You select an option in the kernelconfiguration, which says that you
>system should use offboard IDE-devices asif they were onboard.
>2: You give the following option at the lilo-prompt: (This is an
>example)
>   ide2=0xc400,0xc802 ide3=0xcc00,0xd002
>
>You can find these values according to e.g. [1].
>
>The line above can also be put into /etc/lilo.conf at append="".
>
>[1] http://www.trustix.org/pipermail/tsl-discuss/2002-August/004018.html
>
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>Mark 

How can this help, if the Hardisks are at boottime not visible ???

Michelle




Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello ,

Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:
>
>Hello,
>
>i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
>Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.

??? Hardware Raid ???

This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID. 
For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller. 

>The two disks are configured as RAID-1 (mirroring)
>
>It was not possible to install debian directly to the
>disk, because the disks where not found.

Is the Controller bootable ? 
I think no. 

>At the point, when you start partitioning, there was the message,
>that there were no disks. I have the source of the driver.

Normaly, it is not bootable and the BIOS does not recognize it. 

>So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
>the IDE RAID.

With a Bootfloppy ;-))

>Or in more general way, what is the way to get such non
>standard hardware to work at installation time. Something
>like comiling the driver, which only possible with kernel
>headers or full sources and then continuing install when
>hardware is accessible.

You use an Add-On Controller which yo can use in additional 
to a normal bootable Harddisk or an other boot media. 

>Is the documentation about that?
>
>
>Christoph

Michelle





Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello ,

Am 23:32 2003-02-28 +0100 hat Christoph Loeffler geschrieben:
>
>Hello,
>
>i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
>Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.

??? Hardware Raid ???

This Controler is not a real Hardware RAID. 
For that use a 2-Channel 3Ware Controller. 

>The two disks are configured as RAID-1 (mirroring)
>
>It was not possible to install debian directly to the
>disk, because the disks where not found.

Is the Controller bootable ? 
I think no. 

>At the point, when you start partitioning, there was the message,
>that there were no disks. I have the source of the driver.

Normaly, it is not bootable and the BIOS does not recognize it. 

>So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
>the IDE RAID.

With a Bootfloppy ;-))

>Or in more general way, what is the way to get such non
>standard hardware to work at installation time. Something
>like comiling the driver, which only possible with kernel
>headers or full sources and then continuing install when
>hardware is accessible.

You use an Add-On Controller which yo can use in additional 
to a normal bootable Harddisk or an other boot media. 

>Is the documentation about that?
>
>
>Christoph

Michelle



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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-03-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 02:09 2003-03-01 +0100 hat Mark Schouten geschrieben:
>
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:32:50PM +0100, Christoph Loeffler wrote:

>Had this problem once. There are two options:
>
>1: You select an option in the kernelconfiguration, which says that you
>system should use offboard IDE-devices asif they were onboard.
>2: You give the following option at the lilo-prompt: (This is an
>example)
>   ide2=0xc400,0xc802 ide3=0xcc00,0xd002
>
>You can find these values according to e.g. [1].
>
>The line above can also be put into /etc/lilo.conf at append="".
>
>[1] http://www.trustix.org/pipermail/tsl-discuss/2002-August/004018.html
>
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>Mark 

How can this help, if the Hardisks are at boottime not visible ???

Michelle


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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-02-28 Thread Mark Schouten
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:32:50PM +0100, Christoph Loeffler wrote:
> i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
> Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.
> The two disks are configured as RAID-1 (mirroring)
> 
> It was not possible to install debian directly to the
> disk, because the disks where not found.
> At the point, when you start partitioning, there was the message,
> that there were no disks. I have the source of the driver.
> 
> So, I installed an additional ide drive and install debian there.
> no problem, compiled the kernel with appropriate modules
> which are mentioned in the README which came with source of the
> driver, compiled driver, inserted module and then I have
> access to the RAID System. I partitioned it and prepared it
> for copying the installed system to the RAID-disks.
> 
> So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
> the IDE RAID.

Had this problem once. There are two options:

1: You select an option in the kernelconfiguration, which says that you
system should use offboard IDE-devices asif they were onboard.
2: You give the following option at the lilo-prompt: (This is an
example)
ide2=0xc400,0xc802 ide3=0xcc00,0xd002

You can find these values according to e.g. [1].

The line above can also be put into /etc/lilo.conf at append="".

[1] http://www.trustix.org/pipermail/tsl-discuss/2002-August/004018.html


Hope this helps...

Mark 

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Re: IDE Hardware RAID-1 at boot time

2003-02-28 Thread Mark Schouten
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:32:50PM +0100, Christoph Loeffler wrote:
> i want to install debian to server with two IDE 80GB disks on a
> Hardware RAID. The Controller is a Promise Fasttrak tx 2000.
> The two disks are configured as RAID-1 (mirroring)
> 
> It was not possible to install debian directly to the
> disk, because the disks where not found.
> At the point, when you start partitioning, there was the message,
> that there were no disks. I have the source of the driver.
> 
> So, I installed an additional ide drive and install debian there.
> no problem, compiled the kernel with appropriate modules
> which are mentioned in the README which came with source of the
> driver, compiled driver, inserted module and then I have
> access to the RAID System. I partitioned it and prepared it
> for copying the installed system to the RAID-disks.
> 
> So, my problem is, who do I get the system booting from
> the IDE RAID.

Had this problem once. There are two options:

1: You select an option in the kernelconfiguration, which says that you
system should use offboard IDE-devices asif they were onboard.
2: You give the following option at the lilo-prompt: (This is an
example)
ide2=0xc400,0xc802 ide3=0xcc00,0xd002

You can find these values according to e.g. [1].

The line above can also be put into /etc/lilo.conf at append="".

[1] http://www.trustix.org/pipermail/tsl-discuss/2002-August/004018.html


Hope this helps...

Mark 

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