Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
--Sunday, June 20, 2004 00:26:48 -0600 Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) Well, the pop-before-smtp packages just watches for successful logins in your mail-log. Therefore it should work with IMAP, too. Although I haven't checked since I never came across a customer with a MUA that would support IMAP but fail to use SMTP-AUTH... Cheers, Marcel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:26:48AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) FWIW, I was the original poster and I was only referring to the technique of grab mail before authentication - we use imap(s) as well. As myself and others have said, 'exact' works well for this. I'm going to look into smtp auth next, I need to find exim docs that talk about setting it up, but 'exact' is very simple and works easily enough... My original post was meant to find out what the modern way of doing this is - esmtp or smtp auth seems to be the answer. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
--Sunday, June 20, 2004 00:26:48 -0600 Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) Well, the pop-before-smtp packages just watches for successful logins in your mail-log. Therefore it should work with IMAP, too. Although I haven't checked since I never came across a customer with a MUA that would support IMAP but fail to use SMTP-AUTH... Cheers, Marcel
Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:26:48AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) FWIW, I was the original poster and I was only referring to the technique of grab mail before authentication - we use imap(s) as well. As myself and others have said, 'exact' works well for this. I'm going to look into smtp auth next, I need to find exim docs that talk about setting it up, but 'exact' is very simple and works easily enough... My original post was meant to find out what the modern way of doing this is - esmtp or smtp auth seems to be the answer. Take care, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available
Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
Le dim 20/06/2004 à 08:26, Nate Duehr a écrit : Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) I would recommend using EXACT[1] for example. IMAP-before-SMTP will not work as well as POP-before-SMTP, though. The reason is simple: with POP3, you connect, download the e-mails and de-connect. With IMAP, you connect and keep connected until you leave your e-mail client (or your connection explicitely). [1] http://www.britishsteal.com/dist/exact/ I have Debian packages if you need so. Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jérôme Warnier Consultant BeezNest http://beeznest.net
Re: IMAP before relay (was: pop before smtp relay)
Le dim 20/06/2004 à 08:26, Nate Duehr a écrit : Ward Willats wrote: Yeah, everyone _should_ use AUTH (and heck, SSL), but for a boutique server with few relayers, pop-before-smtp still works very well, thank you, with no existing client configuration changes. Anyone know of any good way to implement IMAP before relay for those of us that left POP3 in the 80's where it belongs? ;-) I would recommend using EXACT[1] for example. IMAP-before-SMTP will not work as well as POP-before-SMTP, though. The reason is simple: with POP3, you connect, download the e-mails and de-connect. With IMAP, you connect and keep connected until you leave your e-mail client (or your connection explicitely). [1] http://www.britishsteal.com/dist/exact/ I have Debian packages if you need so. Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jérôme Warnier Consultant BeezNest http://beeznest.net
