Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Hallo Andrew, Am 10:38 2003-06-24 +0200 hat Andrew Miehs geschrieben: Hi all, does anyone have any experience with large IDE disks on Debian? I was interested in buy a couple of Western Digital 250GB Disks for backup purposes... Ich am running Woody release 1 with Kernel 2.4.19 and can access the WD2500JB and IC35L180V2 without any problems. And secondly, does Serial ATA work properly in Woody? or do I need a new Kernel? I do not know Thanks Andrew Michelle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Jason Lim wrote: Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas Jesse Molina wrote: I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( Some of our clients use the Promise 20286R with success with Debian. But my personal impression is: If you have the choice, go with 3ware. Their card design is superb, 3ware cards are definitly the best IDE Raid controllers when it comes to Linux support. Just my 2c, Thomas -- Thomas Lamy[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to have a little more to choose from, I've also used the CERC controllers which Dell puts into their servers successfully. Performance and debian support is good but I haven't had to recover a failed drive yet. - - Just my 2 cents. - - Cheers, Peter - -- Dipl.-Ing. Peter Burgstaller Technical Director @ all information network services gmbh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +43 662 452335 fax : +43 662 452335 90 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAj75jUcACgkQezyUhHKdNXR0egCfYxNbzPilambFZokPHalbNJuL aEwAn2dlJMxtIvhMB2J43RGh0KpT7BzM =X5Dj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Jason Lim wrote: Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas Jesse Molina wrote: I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( Some of our clients use the Promise 20286R with success with Debian. But my personal impression is: If you have the choice, go with 3ware. Their card design is superb, 3ware cards are definitly the best IDE Raid controllers when it comes to Linux support. Just my 2c, Thomas -- Thomas Lamy[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just to have a little more to choose from, I've also used the CERC controllers which Dell puts into their servers successfully. Performance and debian support is good but I haven't had to recover a failed drive yet. - - Just my 2 cents. - - Cheers, Peter - -- Dipl.-Ing. Peter Burgstaller Technical Director @ all information network services gmbh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +43 662 452335 fax : +43 662 452335 90 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAj75jUcACgkQezyUhHKdNXR0egCfYxNbzPilambFZokPHalbNJuL aEwAn2dlJMxtIvhMB2J43RGh0KpT7BzM =X5Dj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Op di 24-06-2003, om 10:38 schreef Andrew Miehs: Hi all, does anyone have any experience with large IDE disks on Debian? They work perfectly with a custom 2.4.20. Only 2.4.20 (or a patched 2.4.18) accepts 120G Kind regards, Diederik
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Andrew Miehs wrote: Hi all, does anyone have any experience with large IDE disks on Debian? I was interested in buy a couple of Western Digital 250GB Disks for backup purposes... And secondly, does Serial ATA work properly in Woody? or do I need a new Kernel? Thanks Andrew As far as I know theres no problem with large disk support in 2.4, as for Serial ATA, make sure that you get a decent card thats supported by the vender. Serial ATA itself is transparent to the OS, you just need to be careful with onboard stuff. My mistake was buying an onboard sata raid promise controller and got stuck with a piece of crap binary that taints my kernel when I load it (unless you run a certain release of redhat/slackware/). It works, but only just. I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. Regards, Brad Lay ( brad /at/ coombabah.net ) P) (07) 55 311177 W) http://coombabah.net/ I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk ARKENA tlf/phone +4570233456 thomas(at)arkena(dot)com Http://www.arkena.com If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English. -- Homer Simpson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Hi all, then what should I use if you don't recommend promise? Thanx Andrew On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 13:20 Europe/Berlin, Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Op di 24-06-2003, om 14:20 schreef Andrew Miehs: If you could, 3ware. Otherwise use FreeBSD with Promise :) Hi all, then what should I use if you don't recommend promise? Thanx Andrew On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 13:20 Europe/Berlin, Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :(
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Ive not done 250gig and serial ata yet, however I plan to shortly, would appreciate feedback, though I suspect it will be straightforward. I will probably mirror over 2 disks, on a server so ata seems the way to go, it will replace my old scsi raid array. Steven -Original Message- From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 9:27 AM To: Jesse Molina; Thomas Kirk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Op di 24-06-2003, om 10:38 schreef Andrew Miehs: Hi all, does anyone have any experience with large IDE disks on Debian? They work perfectly with a custom 2.4.20. Only 2.4.20 (or a patched 2.4.18) accepts 120G Kind regards, Diederik
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Andrew Miehs wrote: Hi all, does anyone have any experience with large IDE disks on Debian? I was interested in buy a couple of Western Digital 250GB Disks for backup purposes... And secondly, does Serial ATA work properly in Woody? or do I need a new Kernel? Thanks Andrew As far as I know theres no problem with large disk support in 2.4, as for Serial ATA, make sure that you get a decent card thats supported by the vender. Serial ATA itself is transparent to the OS, you just need to be careful with onboard stuff. My mistake was buying an onboard sata raid promise controller and got stuck with a piece of crap binary that taints my kernel when I load it (unless you run a certain release of redhat/slackware/). It works, but only just. I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. Regards, Brad Lay ( brad /at/ coombabah.net ) P) (07) 55 311177 W) http://coombabah.net/ I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure.
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- Venlig hilsen/Kind regards Thomas Kirk ARKENA tlf/phone +4570233456 thomas(at)arkena(dot)com Http://www.arkena.com If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English. -- Homer Simpson
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Hi all, then what should I use if you don't recommend promise? Thanx Andrew On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 13:20 Europe/Berlin, Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :(
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Op di 24-06-2003, om 14:20 schreef Andrew Miehs: If you could, 3ware. Otherwise use FreeBSD with Promise :) Hi all, then what should I use if you don't recommend promise? Thanx Andrew On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 13:20 Europe/Berlin, Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :(
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/
Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Large Hard Disks and Debian
Ive not done 250gig and serial ata yet, however I plan to shortly, would appreciate feedback, though I suspect it will be straightforward. I will probably mirror over 2 disks, on a server so ata seems the way to go, it will replace my old scsi raid array. Steven -Original Message- From: Jason Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 9:27 AM To: Jesse Molina; Thomas Kirk Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian Well, since no one has said it yet, I'll chip in... We've have great results by using 3ware cards. Their drivers are fully open source, and are available as part of the source kernel as well, so you don't have to wait for the right drivers to come out for a particular kernel release (very annoying when the kernel is wy ahead of their binary driver releases) I don't know about the price, but when we were considering all the various RAID cards, 3ware's price was approximately the same as those from Promise. If Promise's cards were significantly cheaper, our decision might have been different, but as is, the 3ware cards won out :-) Sincerely, Jas - Original Message - From: Jesse Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2003 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Large Hard Disks and Debian I honestly regret to say the same, but it's true. Promise cards are great under an MS Windows OS, but not GNU/Linux. It's the driver issues. Thomas Kirk wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:02:21PM +1000, Brad Lay wrote: I'd stay well clear of promise if you want it to work under Debian. I would like to support that statement. Ive had nothing but trouble with promise under debian :( -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.407.970.0280 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
