Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:23:24AM +0200,
 Craig Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 13 lines which said:

 Does anyone know what monitoring software we could use to monitor
 servers and routing devices?

I use and like mon (http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/ and as a
Debian package).
 
 We tried setting up Nagios but in the end the config was just too much
 and too complex.

After trying Nagios and mon, I agree with you.


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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:23:24AM +0200,
 Craig Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 13 lines which said:

 Does anyone know what monitoring software we could use to monitor
 servers and routing devices?

I use and like mon (http://www.kernel.org/software/mon/ and as a
Debian package).
 
 We tried setting up Nagios but in the end the config was just too much
 and too complex.

After trying Nagios and mon, I agree with you.




Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Andreas John
Hi!

I guess you will try out several others and end up with nagios :)
Try apt-cache search monit and you will find some.
rgds,
j.
Craig Schneider wrote:
Hi Guys

Does anyone know what monitoring software we could use to monitor
servers and routing devices?
We tried setting up Nagios but in the end the config was just too much
and too complex.
Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks
Craig


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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
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On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
 Hi Guys
...

Craig,

This is a mailing list of the Debian project, and deals mainly with 
Debian specific issues. While debian-isp is less Debian specific than 
others, it is still not a general Linux/Unix support forum. You sent 
several questions to this list, all of them show, in my opinion, that 
you're just too lazy to thoroughly read documentation or do research on 
the web. 

Of course, there's nobody saying that you need to read documentation - 
if you're too lazy, you can hire somebody to do it for you.  But just 
asking on mailing lists and hoping that others will do your work for 
you strikes me as a bit impolite.

I'm not saying that you may not ask for help on mailing lists, but if 
you do so, you should perhaps write what you tried so far, and what 
documentation you've read so far, and why you are not getting any 
further without help from the list.

thank you for your attention
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RE: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Craig Schneider
Thanks for your opinion. 

-Original Message-
From: Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 26 April 2004 12:35
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Subject: Re: Monitoring software

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On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
 Hi Guys
...

Craig,

This is a mailing list of the Debian project, and deals mainly with
Debian specific issues. While debian-isp is less Debian specific than
others, it is still not a general Linux/Unix support forum. You sent
several questions to this list, all of them show, in my opinion, that
you're just too lazy to thoroughly read documentation or do research on
the web. 

Of course, there's nobody saying that you need to read documentation -
if you're too lazy, you can hire somebody to do it for you.  But just
asking on mailing lists and hoping that others will do your work for you
strikes me as a bit impolite.

I'm not saying that you may not ask for help on mailing lists, but if
you do so, you should perhaps write what you tried so far, and what
documentation you've read so far, and why you are not getting any
further without help from the list.

thank you for your attention
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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-26 12:04:18, schrieb Andreas John:
Hi!

I guess you will try out several others and end up with nagios :)
Try apt-cache search monit and you will find some.

rgds,
j.

Hello, 

I think, he will come back to 'nagios'. ;-)

Greetings
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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Joris
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
This is the most patient and pollite correction of someone I've heard in 
a long time.

As to Craig, there is a document called How to ask questions the smart 
way.
Reading and implementing it in your search for solutions for your 
problems or needs will greatly improve the feedback quality received 
from communities wise to specific subjects like debian-isp.
You can find thedocument at 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, serveral revisions 
float arround the net.



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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Andreas John
Hi!
I guess you will try out several others and end up with nagios :)
Try apt-cache search monit and you will find some.
rgds,
j.
Craig Schneider wrote:
Hi Guys
Does anyone know what monitoring software we could use to monitor
servers and routing devices?
We tried setting up Nagios but in the end the config was just too much
and too complex.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks
Craig

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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-04-26 12:04:18, schrieb Andreas John:
Hi!

I guess you will try out several others and end up with nagios :)
Try apt-cache search monit and you will find some.

rgds,
j.

Hello, 

I think, he will come back to 'nagios'. ;-)

Greetings
Michelle

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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
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On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
 Hi Guys
...

Craig,

This is a mailing list of the Debian project, and deals mainly with 
Debian specific issues. While debian-isp is less Debian specific than 
others, it is still not a general Linux/Unix support forum. You sent 
several questions to this list, all of them show, in my opinion, that 
you're just too lazy to thoroughly read documentation or do research on 
the web. 

Of course, there's nobody saying that you need to read documentation - 
if you're too lazy, you can hire somebody to do it for you.  But just 
asking on mailing lists and hoping that others will do your work for 
you strikes me as a bit impolite.

I'm not saying that you may not ask for help on mailing lists, but if 
you do so, you should perhaps write what you tried so far, and what 
documentation you've read so far, and why you are not getting any 
further without help from the list.

thank you for your attention
- -- vbi

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RE: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Craig Schneider
Thanks for your opinion. 

-Original Message-
From: Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 26 April 2004 12:35
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Monitoring software

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On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
 Hi Guys
...

Craig,

This is a mailing list of the Debian project, and deals mainly with
Debian specific issues. While debian-isp is less Debian specific than
others, it is still not a general Linux/Unix support forum. You sent
several questions to this list, all of them show, in my opinion, that
you're just too lazy to thoroughly read documentation or do research on
the web. 

Of course, there's nobody saying that you need to read documentation -
if you're too lazy, you can hire somebody to do it for you.  But just
asking on mailing lists and hoping that others will do your work for you
strikes me as a bit impolite.

I'm not saying that you may not ask for help on mailing lists, but if
you do so, you should perhaps write what you tried so far, and what
documentation you've read so far, and why you are not getting any
further without help from the list.

thank you for your attention
- -- vbi

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Re: Monitoring software

2004-04-26 Thread Joris
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
On Monday 26 April 2004 11.23, Craig Schneider wrote:
This is the most patient and pollite correction of someone I've heard in 
a long time.

As to Craig, there is a document called How to ask questions the smart 
way.
Reading and implementing it in your search for solutions for your 
problems or needs will greatly improve the feedback quality received 
from communities wise to specific subjects like debian-isp.
You can find thedocument at 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, serveral revisions 
float arround the net.


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