Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Monday 19 March 101, at 12 h 11, the keyboard of Allen Ahoffman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
 copyrights violations?

It depends on the country where you live. Which one is it?



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Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Monday 19 March 101, at 12 h 11, the keyboard of Allen Ahoffman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
 copyrights violations?

It depends on the country where you live. Which one is it?





Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-19 Thread Bao C. Ha


You will need the advise of a lawyer on this question.

Following are my thought:

(1)  An ISP should not act until there is a complaint.  And
I mean an official one, not just an e-mail.

(2) Copyright terrorists have been known to target small
and vulnerable ISPs to make examples out of us.

Your pick!

Bao

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On Mon, 19 Mar 101, Allen Ahoffman wrote:

 as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
 copyrights violations?
 
 Here is my situation, and if you feel this is off topic, you may reply to
 me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll keep any further out of this area.
 
 But, since this is a ISP area if I have this question someone else
 probably does too.
 
 I have a client who stores (archives) newsgroup articles.  I don't even
 provide the news data to him.
 
 He presents access to this data via a web interface to his subscribers.
 
 So, his policy as far as I know, if someone requests an article be deleted
 because of copyright isseus he does so.
 
 So, am I liable for any violations that may happen on that system?  I
 don't administer it, only sell shelf and bandwidth to them.
 
 
 
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Re: copyrights liability question

2001-03-19 Thread Eric Jennings
as an ISP where does the line go for how liable we are for client's
copyrights violations?
Here is my situation, and if you feel this is off topic, you may reply to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll keep any further out of this area.
But, since this is a ISP area if I have this question someone else
probably does too.
I have a client who stores (archives) newsgroup articles.  I don't even
provide the news data to him.
He presents access to this data via a web interface to his subscribers.
So, his policy as far as I know, if someone requests an article be deleted
because of copyright isseus he does so.
So, am I liable for any violations that may happen on that system?  I
don't administer it, only sell shelf and bandwidth to them.
IANAL, but from our perspective as a web hosting company, we have a 
very detailed Acceptable Use Policy that basically states that any 
and all content hosted on the server by the user is the 
responsibility of the user.  Everything from mp3s to porn are listed 
as content not under our control or liability.  We have each user 
sign the agreement and fax/mail it back to us before beginning 
service.

Until legislature makes it more clear on who exactly is liable in 
these situations, we prefer to cover our assets in this manner.  YMMV.

Eric