Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > Hello, > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. You can, as others have mentioned, get your MTA to route the mail to the new server explicitly. The other option is to change the DNS and then tell the old MTA not to treat the domain as "local," but to continue to relay for the domain. Just make sure that the old MTA knows about the DNS updates before doing that. Then what will happen is that the old MTA will receive mail for the domain from people who haven't yet seen the DNS update, and it will route it to the destination mail server by looking up MX records etc., as usual. The only problem with this approach is that there's a small gap between changing the DNS and changing the MTA config during which some mail might be delivered to the old MTA, but not forwarded to the new one. This may or may not be a problem in your case. -- Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > Hello, > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. You can, as others have mentioned, get your MTA to route the mail to the new server explicitly. The other option is to change the DNS and then tell the old MTA not to treat the domain as "local," but to continue to relay for the domain. Just make sure that the old MTA knows about the DNS updates before doing that. Then what will happen is that the old MTA will receive mail for the domain from people who haven't yet seen the DNS update, and it will route it to the destination mail server by looking up MX records etc., as usual. The only problem with this approach is that there's a small gap between changing the DNS and changing the MTA config during which some mail might be delivered to the old MTA, but not forwarded to the new one. This may or may not be a problem in your case. -- Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
I don't know anything about lotus but ... do you know if it supports imap? There is an imap copy program that copies mail "folders" from one imap server to another. This may do what you want: http://www.tun.com/software/imapcp/ I haven't used it but I might need it in a few months, which is why it's in my bookmarks. If you try it please let me know if it worked. ;-) Note that I've seen other, similar programs. On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, alexis bory wrote: > > > Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the > > initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail > > servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. > > the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes. > Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking > for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of > Notes) > before changing the MX could help. > But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while > so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and > fetch > the new one with their brand new domino client. > > Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other > isp's stuff :) > > Thank all > > Alexis > > > -- kc Kevin Conover: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
I don't know anything about lotus but ... do you know if it supports imap? There is an imap copy program that copies mail "folders" from one imap server to another. This may do what you want: http://www.tun.com/software/imapcp/ I haven't used it but I might need it in a few months, which is why it's in my bookmarks. If you try it please let me know if it worked. ;-) Note that I've seen other, similar programs. On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, alexis bory wrote: > > > Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the > > initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail > > servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. > > the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes. > Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking > for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of > Notes) > before changing the MX could help. > But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while > so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and > fetch > the new one with their brand new domino client. > > Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other > isp's stuff :) > > Thank all > > Alexis > > > -- kc Kevin Conover: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:00:45AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote: > > > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. > > Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with > a "From " line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent > should have properly escaped the "From " lines -- and it should have > been only one single message.) > > If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format > (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new > mailbox. Some kind of users changes their provider some times. As that, it is possible, that you don't have access to copy mailboxes around. And as users misconfigure their programs, there can be a lot of mails in the box to copy each for each... > > Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file > and resend each email. This solution sounds good - if procmail is installed. We use sendmail and will use qmail in 2nd part of 2002 - procmail can't be used at the same time than the others are, I think. I had this problem several times with my clients, too. Allmost every mailclient can look at more than one mailbox today. I told my clients to let the old box installed for a few day and let everybody sending on this address know, that there is a new adress - like they do with their letters, when they changes their home. Some kind of vacation-programms could also be used as solution. I use this, when somebody quits a workplace to inform that he no longer is employed there... (For sure: the customer has to pay for it ;-) ). Hope to help. Regards, Michael > > Jeremy C. Reed > echo '9,J8HD,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@5GBIELD54DL>@8L?:5GDEJ8LDG1' |\ > sed ss,s50EBsg | tr 0-M 'p.wBt SgiIlxmLhan:o,erDsduv/cyP' > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "The software said it requires Windows 2000 or better, so I installed Linux"
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:15:13AM -0800, Richard Bailey wrote: > I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a > quick script to do it > for a number of people. I think you may need root access on the old mail > server for it to work. > I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had > added her to aliases to the new > address. > > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. Damn, I just tested it on my system and got a single message :( Ah well, never mind. Cheers, Brett Parker pgpPRBEMJu3ZX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote: > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with a "From " line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent should have properly escaped the "From " lines -- and it should have been only one single message.) If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new mailbox. Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file and resend each email. Jeremy C. Reed echo '9,J8HD,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]@5GBIELD54DL>@8L?:5GDEJ8LDG1' |\ sed ss,s50EBsg | tr 0-M 'p.wBt SgiIlxmLhan:o,erDsduv/cyP'
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a quick script to do it for a number of people. I think you may need root access on the old mail server for it to work. I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had added her to aliases to the new address. cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. I hope this helps Richard Bailey Tele-NET - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote: > > >Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, > > >with > > >exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it > > >where > > >to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. > > >With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure > > >about other MTAs, hope that helps. > > > > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. > > > > I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts > > and heterogenous mail storage systems. > > > > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. > > > > If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering > > could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on > > vacations and don't check their mails). > > > > Good luck > > > > Olivier > > Hrm. Ahh. That's always "fun". Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as > root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to > the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time > consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment :/ > > Best of luck, > > -- > Brett Parker > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:00:45AM -0800, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote: > > > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > > newaddress@newdomain > > > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. > > Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with > a "From " line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent > should have properly escaped the "From " lines -- and it should have > been only one single message.) > > If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format > (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new > mailbox. Some kind of users changes their provider some times. As that, it is possible, that you don't have access to copy mailboxes around. And as users misconfigure their programs, there can be a lot of mails in the box to copy each for each... > > Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file > and resend each email. This solution sounds good - if procmail is installed. We use sendmail and will use qmail in 2nd part of 2002 - procmail can't be used at the same time than the others are, I think. I had this problem several times with my clients, too. Allmost every mailclient can look at more than one mailbox today. I told my clients to let the old box installed for a few day and let everybody sending on this address know, that there is a new adress - like they do with their letters, when they changes their home. Some kind of vacation-programms could also be used as solution. I use this, when somebody quits a workplace to inform that he no longer is employed there... (For sure: the customer has to pay for it ;-) ). Hope to help. Regards, Michael > > Jeremy C. Reed > echo '9,J8HD,fDGG8B@?:536FC5=8@I;C5?@H5B0D@5GBIELD54DL>@8L?:5GDEJ8LDG1' |\ > sed ss,s50EBsg | tr 0-M 'p.wBt SgiIlxmLhan:o,erDsduv/cyP' > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "The software said it requires Windows 2000 or better, so I installed Linux" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 10:15:13AM -0800, Richard Bailey wrote: > I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a > quick script to do it > for a number of people. I think you may need root access on the old mail > server for it to work. > I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had > added her to aliases to the new > address. > > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > newaddress@newdomain > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. Damn, I just tested it on my system and got a single message :( Ah well, never mind. Cheers, Brett Parker msg04871/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
> Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the > initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail > servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes. Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of Notes) before changing the MX could help. But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and fetch the new one with their brand new domino client. Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other isp's stuff :) Thank all Alexis
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard Bailey wrote: > cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" > newaddress@newdomain > > She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. Sounds like she has a broken LDA. (Note that each mbox message starts with a "From " line and ends with a blank line; the Local Delivery Agent should have properly escaped the "From " lines -- and it should have been only one single message.) If you already have access to the user's mailbox is the same format (mbox), then simply copy it over and append the whole file to the new mailbox. Or use procmail's formail tool; it can be used to split up the mbox file and resend each email. Jeremy C. Reed echo '9,J8HD,fDGG8B@?:536FC5=8@I;C5?@H5B0D@5GBIELD54DL>@8L?:5GDEJ8LDG1' |\ sed ss,s50EBsg | tr 0-M 'p.wBt SgiIlxmLhan:o,erDsduv/cyP' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
I just dealt with this for a single customer, but I think you could hack a quick script to do it for a number of people. I think you may need root access on the old mail server for it to work. I used a command like the following to forward all of her mail after I had added her to aliases to the new address. cat /var/spool/mail/userbox|mail -s "forward of your mail" newaddress@newdomain She reported that she got all of her mail as individual messages. I hope this helps Richard Bailey Tele-NET - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another > On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote: > > >Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, > > >with > > >exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it > > >where > > >to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. > > >With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure > > >about other MTAs, hope that helps. > > > > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. > > > > I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts > > and heterogenous mail storage systems. > > > > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. > > > > If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering > > could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on > > vacations and don't check their mails). > > > > Good luck > > > > Olivier > > Hrm. Ahh. That's always "fun". Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as > root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to > the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time > consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment :/ > > Best of luck, > > -- > Brett Parker > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1555 +0100]: > Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails > (I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for > example. valid point, i missed that this was about lotus. should read more closely (i am sorry for the poor fella btw...). > Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's > life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data > *has* to go from ISP A to ISP B. then, obviously, fetchmail is the right choice... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' pgpmUIfjhwHTt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
At 13:53 15/01/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1317 +0100]: > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats? then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be delivered natively, and you are set. Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails (I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for example. The only standards protocols you can really rely on are usually POP and SMTP which fetchmail can handle. > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. ... and generate *loads* of traffic... Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data *has* to go from ISP A to ISP B. Olivier
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
> Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the > initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail > servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. the fact is that the poor customer has no choice in moving to Notes. Someone elsewhere decided they must do that. I was just wondering if asking for forwarding all the mailboxes to some magic thing (i.e. IP address of Notes) before changing the MX could help. But no matter, users account will be preserved for a while so they will be able to fetch their old POP mail with i.e. outlook, and fetch the new one with their brand new domino client. Hopefully in this case, I'm not involved in syncing or configuring other isp's stuff :) Thank all Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote: > >Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, > >with > >exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it > >where > >to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. > >With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure > >about other MTAs, hope that helps. > > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. > > I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts > and heterogenous mail storage systems. > > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. > > If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering > could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on > vacations and don't check their mails). > > Good luck > > Olivier Hrm. Ahh. That's always "fun". Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment :/ Best of luck, -- Brett Parker
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1555 +0100]: > Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails > (I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for > example. valid point, i missed that this was about lotus. should read more closely (i am sorry for the poor fella btw...). > Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's > life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data > *has* to go from ISP A to ISP B. then, obviously, fetchmail is the right choice... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; net@madduck perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' msg04866/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1317 +0100]: > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats? then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be delivered natively, and you are set. > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. ... and generate *loads* of traffic... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi! i'm a .signature virus! copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! pgptkY9QnXDY6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
At 13:53 15/01/02 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: >also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1317 >+0100]: > > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. > >why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats? >then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be >delivered natively, and you are set. Usually when one customer goes from one ISP to the other (which was the initial problem as stated by Alexis) you don't have the root on both mail servers so rsync'ing the mailboxes is usually not possible. Moreover I doubt Lotus Notes uses mailbox or Maildir formats to store mails (I may very well be mistaken on this one). Same story goes for Exchange for example. The only standards protocols you can really rely on are usually POP and SMTP which fetchmail can handle. > > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. > >... and generate *loads* of traffic... Yes... doubles the mail traffic during your migration process. Well, that's life... you have to synch your accounts one way or another, so the data *has* to go from ISP A to ISP B. Olivier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
At 11:47 15/01/02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > Hello, > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > > TIA Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, with exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it where to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure about other MTAs, hope that helps. Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts and heterogenous mail storage systems. If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on vacations and don't check their mails). Good luck Olivier
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach alexis bory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1224 +0100]: > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. which MTA? you know, such info would help... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] "i wish there was a knob on the tv to turn up the intelligence. there's a knob called 'brightness', but it doesn't seem to work." -- gallagher pgplWTcGUooxX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > Hello, > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. > > If any of you know the place of a good doc about this > kind of operation... > > TIA Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, with exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it where to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure about other MTAs, hope that helps. Cheers, -- Brett Parker
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:17:09PM +0100, Olivier MACCHIONI wrote: > >Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, > >with > >exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it > >where > >to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. > >With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure > >about other MTAs, hope that helps. > > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. > > I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts > and heterogenous mail storage systems. > > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. > > If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering > could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on > vacations and don't check their mails). > > Good luck > > Olivier Hrm. Ahh. That's always "fun". Now, If you've got time you could use mutt as root, open the mailboxes one at a time, tag the whole lot, and bounce them to the new address... (or the old address if that's now directed else where). Time consuming, yes. But its the only way I can think of doing it at the moment :/ Best of luck, -- Brett Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach Olivier MACCHIONI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1317 +0100]: > Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already > been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. why don't you rsync them over??? are they mailbox or Maildir formats? then feed them to the local procmail on the new ISP, or have them be delivered natively, and you are set. > If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to > get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. ... and generate *loads* of traffic... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; net@madduck hi! i'm a .signature virus! copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! msg04858/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
At 11:47 15/01/02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > > > > > TIA > >Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, >with >exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it >where >to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. >With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure >about other MTAs, hope that helps. Could help a lot... The problem is to retreive the mail which has already been delivered to the "old" mailboxes. I don't know of any good way to do that for a large number of POP accounts and heterogenous mail storage systems. If you have a complete list of login / passwords you can use fetchmail to get the mail from the old accounts and send it to the new ones. If you don't have such a list some tcpflow on port 110 with some filtering could give you most of the accounts (hopefully not too many people are on vacations and don't check their mails). Good luck Olivier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
also sprach alexis bory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.15.1224 +0100]: > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. which MTA? you know, such info would help... -- martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; net@madduck "i wish there was a knob on the tv to turn up the intelligence. there's a knob called 'brightness', but it doesn't seem to work." -- gallagher msg04855/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: moving mail system from one ISP to another
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:24:26PM +0100, alexis bory wrote: > Hello, > > I have to control the transfert of the mailboxes > of one of my customers from his old ISP to his > Mother-Company-Centralized-Corporate-Lotus-Notes. > > I wonder if abruptly changing the MX for his domaine > wouldn't cause any trouble. Is it possible to configure > a forward in the old MTA before changing the MX ? I > mean this to avoid trouble during the time all the DNS > get the rigth record. > > If any of you know the place of a good doc about this > kind of operation... > > TIA Depending on the MTA you are using there are ways of doing the forwarding, with exim you can add a line to the bottom of the exim.conf file that tells it where to redirect the mail to, its quite well documented in the exim info pages. With postfix you can use the transports file to redirect the mail. Not sure about other MTAs, hope that helps. Cheers, -- Brett Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
