Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted

2002-05-23 Thread Peter Billson
try chattr -i /usr/sbin

Even if sendmail is set -i, if the directory is immutable you will not
be able to rm it.

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Jason Lim wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> across all Linux distros.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# pwd
> /usr/sbin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# rm sendmail
> rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# ls -al sendmail
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root99161 May  1 01:21 sendmail
> 
> That is happening for all the files in that directory.
> 
> strace rm sendmail:
> 
> lstat64("sendmail", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=99161, ...}) = 0
> access("sendmail", W_OK)= 0
> unlink("sendmail")  = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> 
> Any ideas as to what may be happening?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jason
> 
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Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted

2002-05-23 Thread Peter Billson

try chattr -i /usr/sbin

Even if sendmail is set -i, if the directory is immutable you will not
be able to rm it.

Pete
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Jason Lim wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> across all Linux distros.
> 
> [root@linux1 sbin]# pwd
> /usr/sbin
> [root@linux1 sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> [root@linux1 sbin]# rm sendmail
> rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
> 
> [root@linux1 sbin]# ls -al sendmail
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root99161 May  1 01:21 sendmail
> 
> That is happening for all the files in that directory.
> 
> strace rm sendmail:
> 
> lstat64("sendmail", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=99161, ...}) = 0
> access("sendmail", W_OK)= 0
> unlink("sendmail")  = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> 
> Any ideas as to what may be happening?
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jason
> 
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chattr certain dirs on Debian? (was Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted)

2002-05-23 Thread Jason Lim
Nope... it wasn't running.

I did a "chattr = sendmail" to remove all flags, and now it works.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# lsattr |more
suSiadAc-- ./iconvconfig
suSiadAc-- ./rpcinfo
suSiadAc-- ./zdump
suSiadAc-- ./zic
suSiadAc-- ./pwunconv
suSiadAc-- ./pwck
suSiadAc-- ./glibc_post_upgrade
suSiadAc-- ./mklost+found
suSiadAc-- ./arping
suSiadAc-- ./clockdiff
suSiadAc-- ./ping6

Redhat 7.2 has these by default.

Despite the trouble it caused me earlier, perhaps this is a *GOOD*
thing... it would prevent root from accidentally deleting any critical
system files, and would make hacking/cracking slightly harder (okay...
only slightly, but hey... everything adds up to help).


On a Debian system:
sh-2.05a# lsattr /usr/sbin
-- /usr/sbin/locale-gen
-- /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure
-- /usr/sbin/vchkpw
-- /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure


Would this be something we want to do on Debian?

Sincerely,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: "John Gonzalez/netMDC admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted


> Is sendmail running?
>
> Do a: ps auxww | grep sendmail
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:16:25AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> > across all Linux distros.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# pwd
> > /usr/sbin
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# rm sendmail
> > rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> > rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
>
> --
> John Gonzalez, Tularosa Communications | (505) 439-0200 work
> JG6416, ASN 11711, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | (505) 443-1228 fax
>   http://www.tularosa.net
>



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Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted

2002-05-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:16:25AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> across all Linux distros.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# pwd
> /usr/sbin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# rm sendmail
> rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]# ls -al sendmail
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root99161 May  1 01:21 sendmail
> 
> That is happening for all the files in that directory.
> 
> strace rm sendmail:
> 
> lstat64("sendmail", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=99161, ...}) = 0
> access("sendmail", W_OK)= 0
> unlink("sendmail")  = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> 
> Any ideas as to what may be happening?

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ mkdir test
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ cd test
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ touch biff
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ sudo chattr +i .
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ lsattr biff
  -- biff
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ ls -l biff
  -rw-rw-r--1 nnorman  nnorman 0 May 23 17:35 biff
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ rm biff
  rm: cannot unlink `biff': Permission denied
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test $ lsattr -d .
  ---i-- .

Check the directory.

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Of him the harpers sadly sing:  |of
the last whose realm was fair and free  | the Ring
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chattr certain dirs on Debian? (was Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted)

2002-05-23 Thread Jason Lim

Nope... it wasn't running.

I did a "chattr = sendmail" to remove all flags, and now it works.

[root@linux1 sbin]# lsattr |more
suSiadAc-- ./iconvconfig
suSiadAc-- ./rpcinfo
suSiadAc-- ./zdump
suSiadAc-- ./zic
suSiadAc-- ./pwunconv
suSiadAc-- ./pwck
suSiadAc-- ./glibc_post_upgrade
suSiadAc-- ./mklost+found
suSiadAc-- ./arping
suSiadAc-- ./clockdiff
suSiadAc-- ./ping6

Redhat 7.2 has these by default.

Despite the trouble it caused me earlier, perhaps this is a *GOOD*
thing... it would prevent root from accidentally deleting any critical
system files, and would make hacking/cracking slightly harder (okay...
only slightly, but hey... everything adds up to help).


On a Debian system:
sh-2.05a# lsattr /usr/sbin
-- /usr/sbin/locale-gen
-- /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure
-- /usr/sbin/vchkpw
-- /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure


Would this be something we want to do on Debian?

Sincerely,
Jason

- Original Message -
From: "John Gonzalez/netMDC admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jason Lim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted


> Is sendmail running?
>
> Do a: ps auxww | grep sendmail
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:16:25AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> > across all Linux distros.
> >
> > [root@linux1 sbin]# pwd
> > /usr/sbin
> > [root@linux1 sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> > [root@linux1 sbin]# rm sendmail
> > rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> > rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
>
> --
> John Gonzalez, Tularosa Communications | (505) 439-0200 work
> JG6416, ASN 11711, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | (505) 443-1228 fax
>   http://www.tularosa.net
>



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Re: rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted

2002-05-23 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:16:25AM +1000, Jason Lim wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This is happening on a Redhat 7.2 system, but i think it would apply
> across all Linux distros.
> 
> [root@linux1 sbin]# pwd
> /usr/sbin
> [root@linux1 sbin]# chattr -iu sendmail
> [root@linux1 sbin]# rm sendmail
> rm: remove `sendmail'? y
> rm: cannot unlink `sendmail': Operation not permitted
> 
> [root@linux1 sbin]# ls -al sendmail
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root99161 May  1 01:21 sendmail
> 
> That is happening for all the files in that directory.
> 
> strace rm sendmail:
> 
> lstat64("sendmail", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=99161, ...}) = 0
> access("sendmail", W_OK)= 0
> unlink("sendmail")  = -1 EPERM (Operation not
> permitted)
> 
> Any ideas as to what may be happening?

  nnorman@foo:~ $ mkdir test
  nnorman@foo:~ $ cd test
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ touch biff
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ sudo chattr +i .
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ lsattr biff
  -- biff
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ ls -l biff
  -rw-rw-r--1 nnorman  nnorman 0 May 23 17:35 biff
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ rm biff
  rm: cannot unlink `biff': Permission denied
  nnorman@foo:~/test $ lsattr -d .
  ---i-- .

Check the directory.

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Of him the harpers sadly sing:  |of
the last whose realm was fair and free  | the Ring
between the Mountains and the Sea.  |  J.R.R. Tolkien



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