Re: sparc64 bridging

2004-05-03 Thread Axel Scheepers, Operations Via NET.Works NL
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:00:21PM -0700, Johan Brannlund wrote:
 You may be able to get it to work by following the advice in this thread: 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200404/msg00077.html


Hi,

Thanks!

I've just compiled it with the patch, and see;

plog0:~# brctl addbr br0
plog0:~# brctl show
bridge name bridge id   STP enabled interfaces
br0 8000.   no
plog0:~# 

Thanks for the pointer, it saved me quite some time. 

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Re: sparc64 bridging

2004-05-03 Thread Axel Scheepers, Operations Via NET.Works NL
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:00:21PM -0700, Johan Brannlund wrote:
 You may be able to get it to work by following the advice in this thread: 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200404/msg00077.html


Hi,

Thanks!

I've just compiled it with the patch, and see;

plog0:~# brctl addbr br0
plog0:~# brctl show
bridge name bridge id   STP enabled interfaces
br0 8000.   no
plog0:~# 

Thanks for the pointer, it saved me quite some time. 

gr, 
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Axel Scheepers
System Administrator UNIX
phone   +31 40 239 33 93
fax +31 40 239 33 11
e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pgp id  21A33FE0
http://www.vianetworks.nl/




Re: sparc64 bridging

2004-05-02 Thread Axel Scheepers

- Original Message - 
 Have you already tried these:

 http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/
 Ref:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200402/msg00220.html

 What hardware are you running on that freebsd isn't compatible with?
 Seeing as how it doesn't, it'd be nice of you to post it to the freebsd
 list, so others know what's up.

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the pointers, I've just installed the bridge-utils-64 package and
I'm able to get somewhat further. But some funny things are happening;

plog0:/home/axel# brctl addbr br0
plog0:/home/axel# brctl addif br0 eth0
bridge br0 doesn't exist!
plog0:/home/axel# brctl show
bridge name bridge id   STP enabled interfaces
plog0:/home/axel# brctl addbr br0
device br0 already exists; can't create bridge with the same name
plog0:/home/axel# brctl delbr br0
plog0:/home/axel#

Kind of 'it doesn't exist! -It does! it doesn't!' ;-)
(I guess this means compiling it myself with -g and do some debugging)

The machine in question is a netra x1. It has no floppy/cdrom so I have to
netboot it to install, with FreeBSD 5.2.1 I get a 'Fast Data MMU miss' every
time the loader tries to reallocate the kernel. I've already posted this to
relevant lists. We've got about 6 of these, all with 1gb mem, in our
basement doing nothing, I figured they'd do nice as a pop/mailhub cluster
(the remaining 5) and for firewalling (this one).
I've also tried OpenBSD, which in fact runs pretty fine on them. We do have
some enterprise 450 machines also which I can probably get my hands on (4way
smp las time I checked :-) OpenBSD doesn't have decent smp support, and my
experiences with NetBSD is somewhat dissapointing under heavy loads. So
that's why I'm trying debian now. (I really like the way things are handled
compared to the other distros available)
I don't like keeping a mix of more then 4 operating systems at our site, in
fact, I'm trying to bring it all down a bit to ease configuration and
migration.
We don't have that many people who can manage solaris decently (only 2) so
I'd be giving myself some extra work if we keep using that.. ;-)


Kind regards,

Axel Scheepers




Re: sparc64 bridging

2004-05-02 Thread Dan Vande More
On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 02:55, Axel Scheepers wrote:
 Thanks for the pointers, I've just installed the bridge-utils-64 package and
 I'm able to get somewhat further. But some funny things are happening;
 
 plog0:/home/axel# brctl addbr br0
 plog0:/home/axel# brctl addif br0 eth0
 bridge br0 doesn't exist!
 plog0:/home/axel# brctl show
 bridge name bridge id   STP enabled interfaces
 plog0:/home/axel# brctl addbr br0
 device br0 already exists; can't create bridge with the same name
 plog0:/home/axel# brctl delbr br0
 plog0:/home/axel#
 
 Kind of 'it doesn't exist! -It does! it doesn't!' ;-)
 (I guess this means compiling it myself with -g and do some debugging)
 
 The machine in question is a netra x1. It has no floppy/cdrom so I have to
 netboot it to install, with FreeBSD 5.2.1 I get a 'Fast Data MMU miss' every
 time the loader tries to reallocate the kernel. I've already posted this to
 relevant lists. We've got about 6 of these, all with 1gb mem, in our
 basement doing nothing, I figured they'd do nice as a pop/mailhub cluster
 (the remaining 5) and for firewalling (this one).
 I've also tried OpenBSD, which in fact runs pretty fine on them. We do have
 some enterprise 450 machines also which I can probably get my hands on (4way
 smp las time I checked :-) OpenBSD doesn't have decent smp support, and my
 experiences with NetBSD is somewhat dissapointing under heavy loads. So
 that's why I'm trying debian now. (I really like the way things are handled
 compared to the other distros available)
 I don't like keeping a mix of more then 4 operating systems at our site, in
 fact, I'm trying to bring it all down a bit to ease configuration and
 migration.
 We don't have that many people who can manage solaris decently (only 2) so
 I'd be giving myself some extra work if we keep using that.. ;-)

You're in the same situation I am. Most people here CAN manage solaris,
but with the ridiculous install time, patching time, and buggy
utilities(awk, sed, tar), it's nice to have something that works.

I revised my initial reply to the link above, which I found using
google. I was originially going to state that I simply don't think linux
or *bsd supports bridging on the sparc64 arch yet. I don't really know
why, but I think it has more to do with 64 bit vs 32 bit. This is
probably what I should revert back to, I just don't think it's working
yet. Sun is famous for their screwed up hardware, though they are more
famous for their buggy CPUs/Memory, which they claim are transient
errors that a reboot will fix.

Personally, I've tried it quite few times, and haven't been able to get
it to work, but I've only tried on Netra t105s and quad hme cards. 






Re: sparc64 bridging

2004-05-01 Thread Dan Vande More
On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 12:17, Axel Scheepers wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure if I should post it here, if it's not appropiate please excuse
 me for doing so.
 I'm currently looking into alternatives for solaris to put some ultrasparc
 hardware in use at our isp. We mainly use freebsd, but I'm having major
 problems running the latest releases on this hardware.
 Anyway, I just installed debian on a sparc64 machine and upgraded it to
 testing to be able to run the 2.6.5 kernel. I wanted to use this machine as
 a bridging firewall for some cobalt machines we run, but I can't create a
 bridge.
 I have the bridge module loaded, and 'brctl addbr br0' doesn't give an error
 nor error exit code. When I run 'brctl show' it doesn't show my newly
 created bridge, and I can't create any further configs with it or delete it,
 it just isn't there.
 
 I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong here, as far as I can tell the commands I
 used are correct. Was it a bad idea to upgrade to 2.6.5? (I really like some
 features of it which imho brings it way closer to a bsd kernel)
 Since I needed to recompile the kernel anyway it seemed like a good choice
 to build 2.6.5, I never tried it with a 2.4.24 kernel.
 
 To be sure about things I've already tried to
 - enable ip forwarding
 - build it into the kernel instead of a module
 - ifconfig'd ethN promisc up all interfaces
 but all have no effect.
 
 I'm not (yet) subscribed to this list, could you please cc me in a response?
 
 Thanks,
 Kind regards,
 
 Axel Scheepers

Have you already tried these:

http://www.phunnypharm.org/pub/for/sparc-folks/
Ref:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2004/debian-sparc-200402/msg00220.html

What hardware are you running on that freebsd isn't compatible with?
Seeing as how it doesn't, it'd be nice of you to post it to the freebsd
list, so others know what's up.

Dan Vande More