Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Alternatively, establish a WINS server at each remote location.  This will
make items appear, I believe, in Network Neighbourhood.

HTH


On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to 
> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> 
> However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their 
> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same 
> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options 
> under MS that I never found.
> 
> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but 
> never looked.
> 
> If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> 
> Greg Wood
> 
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> 
> On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
> 
> >I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up.
> >The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
> >users at various locations NOT on the local network.
> >
> >I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting
> >it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
> >cable systems.
> >
> >TIA
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta

Alternatively, establish a WINS server at each remote location.  This will
make items appear, I believe, in Network Neighbourhood.

HTH


On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter your 
>info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> 
> However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their network 
>connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same connection with Novell 
>client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options under MS that I never found.
> 
> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but never 
>looked.
> 
> If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> 
> Greg Wood
> 
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> 
> On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
> 
> >I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up.
> >The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
> >users at various locations NOT on the local network.
> >
> >I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting
> >it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
> >cable systems.
> >
> >TIA
> >
> >-
> >Jaysen O'Dell
> >
> >   Oatka Data Solutions
> >Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Erik Peter P. Abella


Hi All,


Here's the take of a windows-junkie turned linux lover:


APPLICATION

   SAMBA

NETBIOS  | 
-| IPX/SPX 
TCP/IP | NETBEUI |   

PPP, 802.X, etc.

 Ethernet, Token Ring, Serial, etc.


This is pretty much how I see it and from there will proceed...


> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... 

...Samba runs above NetBIOS which you can run over TCP/IP but a cost of
bandwidth given how NetBIOS is such a "chatty" protocol and is really
meant to be used by small peer networks.

So if the issue is can you do the usual windows sharing over the internet,
well it is possible, but is it worth it? 

You might want to read up on CIFS (Common Internet File System) which
Microsoft is developing in vain, hoping to simplify and standardize SMB
over the Internet (yeah, keep dreaming Gates :-P ) but from what I've
read, they have a lng waayyy to go.

I hope to have been helpful.


Cheers,


Erik Abella




Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Blackham
NetBIOS is an application-layer protocol, you can run it over TCP/IP, or IPX,
or NetBEUI, or whatever transport you want.

-Kevin

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:38:59PM -0500, Nitebirdz wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:
> 
> > There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to 
> > enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> > 
> > However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their 
> > network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same 
> > connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' 
> > options under MS that I never found.
> > 
> > You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but 
> > never looked.
> > 
> > If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> > 
> > Greg Wood
> > 
> 
> How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please
> shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
> know, and I'd also love to know how it works.
> 
> 
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Blackham
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 08:58:33AM -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to 
> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.

You don't necessarily need this, but it is a good option.  I have scrooed 
with Samba over internetworks and multiple subnets for some time... here's 
what I've found:

Win9x is a real pain in the arse.  You must be "logged in" to the microsoft
client using the username you wish to connect as at the remote end.  Your
password and must be set as all lowercase.  Add the DNS domain to your  
suffix search order.  You can then map drives by using \\hostname\share 
(where hostname is the host portion, not the fqdn; and share is the username,
if mapping a home dir under Samba for *nix).

WinNT is much easier to deal with, you can specify who to "connect as", and
may work with mixed-case passwords.  You should also include the DNS domain
suffix in you search order.  NT should also map by IP address outside the 
local subnet.  I have yet to get 9x to do that.  I can't explain it.

You could also setup a WINS server, that each of the clients can use to 
resolve the address of the host to which they wish to connect.

Be sure your gateway routers aren't blocking port 139, and 137 if you wish to 
use WINS.

> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but 
> never looked.

There are many 3rd party NFS clients/servers.  Try a few, most are on a
shareware trial period.  However, they do funky UID/GID mappings, and some
require a PCNFSD or NIS server.

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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw
On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:38:59PM -0500, Nitebirdz wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

[Samba over Internet]
> 
> How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please

It uses NetBIOS (rfc1001 and 1002) as an encapsulated protocol. You can
encap it in IPX, NetBEUI *and* TCP/IP. There's no real problem using
Samba/Windows shares over the net, except that browsing is harder to
implement or more-or-less impossible. You may want to install a WINS
server.

> shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
> know, and I'd also love to know how it works.

It's the same configuration as one would have if you have several subnets.
Reading all docs and having some tests will show you that it simply
works...

MfG, JBG

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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Nitebirdz
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to 
> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> 
> However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their 
> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same 
> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options 
> under MS that I never found.
> 
> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but 
> never looked.
> 
> If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> 
> Greg Wood
> 

How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please
shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
know, and I'd also love to know how it works.


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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Erik Peter P. Abella



Hi All,


Here's the take of a windows-junkie turned linux lover:


APPLICATION

   SAMBA

NETBIOS  | 
-| IPX/SPX 
TCP/IP | NETBEUI |   

PPP, 802.X, etc.

 Ethernet, Token Ring, Serial, etc.


This is pretty much how I see it and from there will proceed...


> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... 

...Samba runs above NetBIOS which you can run over TCP/IP but a cost of
bandwidth given how NetBIOS is such a "chatty" protocol and is really
meant to be used by small peer networks.

So if the issue is can you do the usual windows sharing over the internet,
well it is possible, but is it worth it? 

You might want to read up on CIFS (Common Internet File System) which
Microsoft is developing in vain, hoping to simplify and standardize SMB
over the Internet (yeah, keep dreaming Gates :-P ) but from what I've
read, they have a lng waayyy to go.

I hope to have been helpful.


Cheers,


Erik Abella


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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Blackham

NetBIOS is an application-layer protocol, you can run it over TCP/IP, or IPX,
or NetBEUI, or whatever transport you want.

-Kevin

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:38:59PM -0500, Nitebirdz wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:
> 
> > There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter 
>your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> > 
> > However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their network 
>connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same connection with Novell 
>client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options under MS that I never found.
> > 
> > You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but never 
>looked.
> > 
> > If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> > 
> > Greg Wood
> > 
> 
> How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please
> shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
> know, and I'd also love to know how it works.
> 
> 
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Blackham

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 08:58:33AM -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter your 
>info so that you can attach to a remote network.

You don't necessarily need this, but it is a good option.  I have scrooed 
with Samba over internetworks and multiple subnets for some time... here's 
what I've found:

Win9x is a real pain in the arse.  You must be "logged in" to the microsoft
client using the username you wish to connect as at the remote end.  Your
password and must be set as all lowercase.  Add the DNS domain to your  
suffix search order.  You can then map drives by using \\hostname\share 
(where hostname is the host portion, not the fqdn; and share is the username,
if mapping a home dir under Samba for *nix).

WinNT is much easier to deal with, you can specify who to "connect as", and
may work with mixed-case passwords.  You should also include the DNS domain
suffix in you search order.  NT should also map by IP address outside the 
local subnet.  I have yet to get 9x to do that.  I can't explain it.

You could also setup a WINS server, that each of the clients can use to 
resolve the address of the host to which they wish to connect.

Be sure your gateway routers aren't blocking port 139, and 137 if you wish to 
use WINS.

> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but never 
>looked.

There are many 3rd party NFS clients/servers.  Try a few, most are on a
shareware trial period.  However, they do funky UID/GID mappings, and some
require a PCNFSD or NIS server.

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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 04:38:59PM -0500, Nitebirdz wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

[Samba over Internet]
> 
> How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
> runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please

It uses NetBIOS (rfc1001 and 1002) as an encapsulated protocol. You can
encap it in IPX, NetBEUI *and* TCP/IP. There's no real problem using
Samba/Windows shares over the net, except that browsing is harder to
implement or more-or-less impossible. You may want to install a WINS
server.

> shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
> know, and I'd also love to know how it works.

It's the same configuration as one would have if you have several subnets.
Reading all docs and having some tests will show you that it simply
works...

MfG, JBG

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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Nitebirdz

On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Gregory Wood wrote:

> There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter your 
>info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> 
> However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their network 
>connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same connection with Novell 
>client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options under MS that I never found.
> 
> You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but never 
>looked.
> 
> If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> 
> Greg Wood
> 

How can you get Samba to work over the Internet?  I mean, after all it
runs on NetBIOS while the Internet runs on TCP/IP... Can anyone please
shed some light here?  If it is possible at all, I'd certainly love to
know, and I'd also love to know how it works.


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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Larry Morrow
Yes,  

Let me put together a configuration checklist.  We do this routinely.
But we do it on a customized version of Linux.  Let me look at
it on a stock Debian installation.

I will drop a note tomorrow as today will be quite full.

Larry

At 10:35 AM 6/14/00 -0400, Technical Support wrote:
>Forgive the ignorence, but last essentially create a IP/IP tunnel to the 
>linux box from the 98 client? Any configuration suggestions?
>
>On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:27:58AM -0400, Larry Morrow wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
>> Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
>> connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
>> more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
>> bandwidth.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
>> >There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
>> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
>> >
>> >However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
>> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
>> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
>> options under MS that I never found.
>> >
>> >You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
>> never looked.
>> >
>> >If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
>> >
>> >Greg Wood
>> >
>> >*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>> >
>> >On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it
up. 
>> >>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>> >>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>> >>
>> >>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in
getting 
>> >>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
>> other
>> >>cable systems. 
>> >>
>> >>TIA
>> >>
>> >>-
>> >>Jaysen O'Dell 
>> >>
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Technical Support
Forgive the ignorence, but last essentially create a IP/IP tunnel to the 
linux box from the 98 client? Any configuration suggestions?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:27:58AM -0400, Larry Morrow wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
> Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
> connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
> more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
> bandwidth.
> 
> Larry
> 
> At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
> >There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> >
> >However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
> options under MS that I never found.
> >
> >You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
> never looked.
> >
> >If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> >
> >Greg Wood
> >
> >*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> >
> >On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
> >
> >>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
> >>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
> >>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
> >>
> >>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
> >>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
> other
> >>cable systems. 
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>-
> >>Jaysen O'Dell 
> >>
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Larry Morrow
Hi,

Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
bandwidth.

Larry

At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
>There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
>
>However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
options under MS that I never found.
>
>You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
never looked.
>
>If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
>
>Greg Wood
>
>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
>On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
>
>>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
>>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>>
>>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
>>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
other
>>cable systems. 
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>-
>>Jaysen O'Dell 
>>
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Gregory Wood
There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter 
your info so that you can attach to a remote network.

However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their network 
connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same connection with 
Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options under MS that I 
never found.

You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but 
never looked.

If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.

Greg Wood

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On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:

>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up.
>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>
>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting
>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
>cable systems.
>
>TIA
>
>-
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SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Technical Support
I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
users at various locations NOT on the local network.

I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
cable systems. 

TIA

-
Jaysen O'Dell 

   Oatka Data Solutions
Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   AcornWorld Internet Services 
System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Larry Morrow

Yes,  

Let me put together a configuration checklist.  We do this routinely.
But we do it on a customized version of Linux.  Let me look at
it on a stock Debian installation.

I will drop a note tomorrow as today will be quite full.

Larry

At 10:35 AM 6/14/00 -0400, Technical Support wrote:
>Forgive the ignorence, but last essentially create a IP/IP tunnel to the 
>linux box from the 98 client? Any configuration suggestions?
>
>On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:27:58AM -0400, Larry Morrow wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
>> Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
>> connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
>> more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
>> bandwidth.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
>> >There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
>> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
>> >
>> >However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
>> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
>> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
>> options under MS that I never found.
>> >
>> >You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
>> never looked.
>> >
>> >If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
>> >
>> >Greg Wood
>> >
>> >*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>> >
>> >On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it
up. 
>> >>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>> >>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>> >>
>> >>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in
getting 
>> >>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
>> other
>> >>cable systems. 
>> >>
>> >>TIA
>> >>
>> >>-
>> >>Jaysen O'Dell 
>> >>
>> >>   Oatka Data Solutions
>> >>Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Technical Support

Forgive the ignorence, but last essentially create a IP/IP tunnel to the 
linux box from the 98 client? Any configuration suggestions?

On Wed, Jun 14, 2000 at 10:27:58AM -0400, Larry Morrow wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
> Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
> connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
> more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
> bandwidth.
> 
> Larry
> 
> At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
> >There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
> enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
> >
> >However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
> network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
> connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
> options under MS that I never found.
> >
> >You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
> never looked.
> >
> >If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
> >
> >Greg Wood
> >
> >*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> >
> >On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
> >
> >>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
> >>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
> >>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
> >>
> >>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
> >>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
> other
> >>cable systems. 
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>-
> >>Jaysen O'Dell 
> >>
> >>   Oatka Data Solutions
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Larry Morrow

Hi,

Are you saying they want to use SAMBA across the Internet?
Samba is not designed for that.  Use the pptp client/server to
connect MS clients to your Linux server.  It is more reliable,
more secure and does not broadcast all the time using excess 
bandwidth.

Larry

At 08:58 AM 6/14/00 -0500, Gregory Wood wrote:
>There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to
enter your info so that you can attach to a remote network.
>
>However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their
network connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same
connection with Novell client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry'
options under MS that I never found.
>
>You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but
never looked.
>
>If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.
>
>Greg Wood
>
>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
>On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:
>
>>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
>>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>>
>>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
>>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or
other
>>cable systems. 
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>-
>>Jaysen O'Dell 
>>
>>   Oatka Data Solutions
>>Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>   AcornWorld Internet Services 
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Re: SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Gregory Wood

There is a 'host' file on the pc running Win9x. That is where you have to enter your 
info so that you can attach to a remote network.

However, I have had customers who have tried that and would loose their network 
connection. I believe its a weakness in the MS client. Same connection with Novell 
client fixed the problem. There may be 'retry' options under MS that I never found.

You may want to try NFS. I was told that NFS was available for Windows but never 
looked.

If you do get this to work reliably, I'd like to hear from you.

Greg Wood

*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 6/14/00 at 9:34 AM Technical Support wrote:

>I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up.
>The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
>users at various locations NOT on the local network.
>
>I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting
>it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
>cable systems.
>
>TIA
>
>-
>Jaysen O'Dell
>
>   Oatka Data Solutions
>Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   AcornWorld Internet Services
>System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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SMB over public network

2000-06-14 Thread Technical Support

I have a client who want so co-lo a server and has asked me to set it up. 
The problem is that they want to use samba to share directories to remote
users at various locations NOT on the local network.

I know this is possible, but as of yet have been unsuccessfull in getting 
it to work. Set up is stock potato. Clients are Win9x via RoadRunner or other
cable systems. 

TIA

-
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   Oatka Data Solutions
Technical Support -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   AcornWorld Internet Services 
System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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