Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
Hello Adrian, Am 11:10 2003-01-28 +0100 hat Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder geschrieben: > >Yo! > >In short: If you have a computer with a static IP address, I'd be glad >if you'd run ntpd and offered it for public use on the time.fortytwo.ch >DNS round robin. Expected traffic is very low - I hope to get as many >time servers as I can, so the load will be spread as far as possible. Curently I habe only a 39 Computer-Local-LAN but with my own ntp-server, exactly xntp3 which get the time-Information with the DCF-77 receiver... from Braunschweig/Germany. >The longer version: > >In the comp.protocols.time.ntp newsgroup, it was discussed that some of >the public time servers (as listed somewhere on ntp.org) are having >problems with too much traffic. How many requests ??? I run a 10 yeears old VLB-Board with an Cx486dx40 and 16 Mbyte of memory running Woody. I update the Computers every 5 Minutes for testing and there is around no load... I think, the Timeservers use a little bit bigger machine, but can handle several 1000th hit a second... > ## Get the Power of Debian/GNU-Linux ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
It's good news that ntp.org is willing to support this. As I read you last accounce mailing I understand that they think this has a greater potential then though of reading your request for support. Let see how this grows, as I think this could be a good step in the right direction. On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 02:45:10PM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [oops. Wanted to post this to both -project and -isp] > time.fortytwo.ch round robin DNS > > I just wanted to say how great the Debian community is: within three > hours of the announcement here, I had 5 volounteers offering their > timeservers. Any other timne servers willing to join are still welcome > :^) > > Update: the time.fortytwo.ch will probably become the pool.ntp.org > project in the near future and thus become a bit more 'official'. Yay! > > Mailing lists for the interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see http://fortytwo.ch/time) > > cheers > -- vbi > > -- > this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg -- -- Mark Lijftogt -- http://www.qut.nl -- http://www.lijftogt.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
[oops. Wanted to post this to both -project and -isp] time.fortytwo.ch round robin DNS I just wanted to say how great the Debian community is: within three hours of the announcement here, I had 5 volounteers offering their timeservers. Any other timne servers willing to join are still welcome :^) Update: the time.fortytwo.ch will probably become the pool.ntp.org project in the near future and thus become a bit more 'official'. Yay! Mailing lists for the interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] (see http://fortytwo.ch/time) cheers -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
On Die, 2003-01-28 at 14:18, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >[2003.01.28.1159 +0100]: > > (If I get somewhere with my project, I'd propose adding the debian > > machines to my project and doing > > ntp0.debian.org CNAME left.time.fortytwo.ch > > ntp1.debian.org CNAME right.time.fortytwo.ch > > don't use CNAMEs. > > we'll just keep the IP pools in sync, that's better. Don't know if that's better, but it's more work in any case. CNAMEing would just work. Main problem with CNAME is that a lot of DNS lookups are necessary - but with ntp, it's just one lookup when ntpd starts (contrary to MX pointing to CNAME which are evaluated basically for every single mail). (btw, dns layout has changed - last part of https://fortytwo.ch/mailman/pipermail/timekeepers/2003/00.html) cheers -- vbi -- Available for key signing in Zürich and Basel, Switzerland (what's this? Look at http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
also sprach Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.28.1159 +0100]: > (If I get somewhere with my project, I'd propose adding the debian > machines to my project and doing > ntp0.debian.org CNAME left.time.fortytwo.ch > ntp1.debian.org CNAME right.time.fortytwo.ch don't use CNAMEs. we'll just keep the IP pools in sync, that's better. -- Please do not CC me! Mutt (www.mutt.org) can handle this automatically. .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc msg07910/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
also sprach Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.01.28.1142 +0100]: > GPS based synchronisation devices are apparently dropping in price. > We could probably run a Debian NTP service with statum 2 or higher > in the near future. Sounds good. Then again, I appreciate Adrian's efforts. Maybe we can synchronize with him. -- Please do not CC me! Mutt (www.mutt.org) can handle this automatically. .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc msg07909/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
[no cc:s please] On Die, 2003-01-28 at 11:42, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:10, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > In short: If you have a computer with a static IP address, I'd be glad > > if you'd run ntpd and offered it for public use on the time.fortytwo.ch > > DNS round robin. Expected traffic is very low - I hope to get as many > > time servers as I can, so the load will be spread as far as possible. > > Why don't we just have a ntp.debian.org name? IANADD is - for me - the obvious reason. But ntp.debian.org would probably be a good idea, too. (If I get somewhere with my project, I'd propose adding the debian machines to my project and doing ntp0.debian.org CNAME left.time.fortytwo.ch ntp1.debian.org CNAME right.time.fortytwo.ch I've done this left, right thing so that everybody can sync to two different servers in case on has gone bad. cheers -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Time servers (ntp) wanted
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:10, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > In short: If you have a computer with a static IP address, I'd be glad > if you'd run ntpd and offered it for public use on the time.fortytwo.ch > DNS round robin. Expected traffic is very low - I hope to get as many > time servers as I can, so the load will be spread as far as possible. Why don't we just have a ntp.debian.org name? GPS based synchronisation devices are apparently dropping in price. We could probably run a Debian NTP service with statum 2 or higher in the near future. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Time servers (ntp) wanted
Yo! In short: If you have a computer with a static IP address, I'd be glad if you'd run ntpd and offered it for public use on the time.fortytwo.ch DNS round robin. Expected traffic is very low - I hope to get as many time servers as I can, so the load will be spread as far as possible. The longer version: In the comp.protocols.time.ntp newsgroup, it was discussed that some of the public time servers (as listed somewhere on ntp.org) are having problems with too much traffic. I figured: for everyday use, accuracy is no problem (Who cares if their clock goes 100ms wrong?). So, I'm trying to set up a DNS round robin DNS zone on time.fortytwo.ch, so everybody can just use a default ntp.conf and doesn't need to worry ever again. Right now, it's not operating yet: I need timeservers. As I said, accuracy is not the issue right now, so even if it's just a router with stratum 3 or even higher, it can help. If you want to help, just drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or reply to this mail, it's the same, really). If you're interested: there's http://fortytwo.ch/time for more information, including mailing lists. A further note: this project could, of course, also benefit Debian: as soon as there's a big enough number of servers, I think the Debian ntp package could just ship with a default config file that would just work, for the cases where somebody installs ntp but doesn't know his ISP's ntp server. Now I hope to be drowned in email :-) So long -- vbi * posted to debian-project because (some of) the Debian machines could join * posted on debian-isp because there's many people with suitable gear that might be interested. -- this email is protected by a digital signature: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
