Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-13 Thread Bertrand PERRINE
I confirm with apache 2.0.44/PHP 4.3.1
B.
Koba a écrit :
On Wed, 7 May 2003 11:48:24 -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I looked at SquirrelMail, but php4 is not supported with apache2.
Yes it does. I'm testing the Apache/2.0.45 PHP/4.3.1 combination and it 
works like a charm. You'll notice a huge speedup in php scripts if you 
are upgrading from apache 1.x.

squirrelmail.org does not recommend using apache2 with it, but I didn't 
have any problem so far.




Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-07 Thread Koba
On Wed, 7 May 2003 11:48:24 -0400, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I looked at SquirrelMail, but php4 is not supported with apache2.
Yes it does. I'm testing the Apache/2.0.45 PHP/4.3.1 combination and it 
works like a charm. You'll notice a huge speedup in php scripts if you are 
upgrading from apache 1.x.

squirrelmail.org does not recommend using apache2 with it, but I didn't 
have any problem so far.

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-07 Thread Joey Hess
Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
> Why does the implementation language matter?  Do you care if your
> system binaries are written in C vs C++?

Not at all, unless the implementation language causes limitations.

I looked at SquirrelMail, but php4 is not supported with apache2. It
also looked painful to get the php stuff set up in the web server when I
was using plain apache. And IIRC it wanted to copy all the php stuff
into /etc or /var/www or somewhere, which does not seem like it would
make it easy to upgrade.

I have settled on sqwebmail, which is very easy to set up if you use
courier already. It has some nice features like user configurable filtering
via maildrop, and gpg support. It also does not require javascript or
anything of that ilk, and is a plain jane cgi program and not some nasty
thing embedded in the web server. I can't give any real testomony past
that as I am just in the process of rolling it out.

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-07 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 05:46:49PM -0500, Rod Rodolico wrote:
> PHP has some problems, at least in the SquirrelMail arena. First I want to
> say I use it, like it, and my clients like it. But I've had to create some
> work-arounds.
> 
> The one that is most striking is that it will not easily download
> attachments of any great size. Some of my clients have sent me attachments
> of up to 6M, and SquirrelMail will not handle that. It seems the memory
> for a PHP app must be set aside before it is loaded into Apache. I assume
> there is a reason such as not allowing it to break as easily, but
> SquirrelMail out of the package won't handle attachments much larger than
> 1.5M. Since it is easier to just mime decode the stupid things than to
> talk someone through FTP (some of my clients are, shall we say, less than
> technically apt), I either go to the server and manually decode it, or use
> Netscrape mail to fetch it off the server (then ask the client not to do
> that again). Increasing the amount of memory in the PHP config file did
> not help (I set aside 64M and still couldn't download it).
> 


You've got three parameters to tune:

max_execution_time
memory_limit
post_max_size

Depending of your application you will have to set the last two (or/and)
at your max attachment size, and djust max_execution_time according to
the time needed to upload this size ;-)




> Also, I have had SquirrelMail break on upgrades due to differences in the
> configuration format. This happened in testing, so is probably not a big
> problem (I run testing on my production server, yes, I know). It has
> (appearantly permenantly) lost the themes.
> 

I often prefer to maintain php app as source (without .deb helping)...

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-07 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 01:07:11AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny
> >
> > Windows   == 63M
> > Linux == 57M
> > Debian== 16M
> > Microsoft == 40M
> >
> > You can try to prove anything with numbers. :-)
> 
> What we as Debian users know as fact (MS+Win has security flaws) is
> mirrored in your numbers.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

Those numbers have nothing to do with security.  They were single word
searches.
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RE: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy D. Zawodny
>
> Windows   == 63M
> Linux == 57M
> Debian== 16M
> Microsoft == 40M
>
> You can try to prove anything with numbers. :-)

What we as Debian users know as fact (MS+Win has security flaws) is mirrored in
your numbers.  Linux is bigger than one OS, and as such would be expected to
have 'greater than one' numbers.  Btw, "OpenBSD exploits" only googled 22,000
hits. ;)

While googling is by no means an exact science, it is a measurement that has
some weight.

-Jim P.







Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:33:46PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny 
> > Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
> > 
> > 
> > Why does the implementation language matter?  
> 
> Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this:
> 
>   http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits)
> 
>   http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits  (about 128,000 hits)

ahh, but http://www.google.com/search?q=mygol+exploits (1 hit)

So use mygol instead! This mostly just shows the popularity of the language,
which is a good thing.

To be slightly more scientific about it, you need to divide the total
+exploits hits by the  hits. This gives;

Perl: 40,000 / 13,500,000 = 0.29 %
PHP : 129,000 / 183,000,000 = 0.07%
Python  : 12,300 / 5,080,000 = 0.24%

These figures probably show more about how bad this method of assessing
something is than anything else. There are so many factors that could bias
these results, they are hardly worth looking at.

The Python hits at first glance seem to be badly biased by the "Exploits of
Monty Python" all over the web (2,840 sub-hits on "Monty", which brings it
down to 0.18%). 

The PHP and Perl results are probably slightly more indicative, and show PHP
as significantly less "exploited" than Perl. It also shows PHP as
significantly more popular than Perl.

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:33:46PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeremy D. Zawodny 
> > Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
> > 
> > 
> > Why does the implementation language matter?  
> 
> Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this:
> 
>   http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits)
> 
>   http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits  (about 128,000 hits)

Windows   == 63M
Linux == 57M
Debian== 16M
Microsoft == 40M

You can try to prove anything with numbers. :-)
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RE: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy D. Zawodny 
> Subject: Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
> 
> 
> Why does the implementation language matter?  

Although not a very technical example, you can't ignore this:

  http://www.google.com/search?q=Perl+exploits (about 45,400 hits)

  http://www.google.com/search?q=PHP+exploits  (about 128,000 hits)


-Jim P.




Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Tinus Nijmeijers
On Tue, 2003-05-06 at 20:13, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote:
> > SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks.
> > 
> > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.
> 
> Why does the implementation language matter?  Do you care if your
> system binaries are written in C vs C++?
> 
> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
> work?
> 

I like it when I can go and have a look in the code and understand what
is being said. I don't speak X, I do speak Y. So I would prefer(!) my
app. of choice to be written in Y.

tinus.




Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Rod Rodolico
PHP has some problems, at least in the SquirrelMail arena. First I want to
say I use it, like it, and my clients like it. But I've had to create some
work-arounds.

The one that is most striking is that it will not easily download
attachments of any great size. Some of my clients have sent me attachments
of up to 6M, and SquirrelMail will not handle that. It seems the memory
for a PHP app must be set aside before it is loaded into Apache. I assume
there is a reason such as not allowing it to break as easily, but
SquirrelMail out of the package won't handle attachments much larger than
1.5M. Since it is easier to just mime decode the stupid things than to
talk someone through FTP (some of my clients are, shall we say, less than
technically apt), I either go to the server and manually decode it, or use
Netscrape mail to fetch it off the server (then ask the client not to do
that again). Increasing the amount of memory in the PHP config file did
not help (I set aside 64M and still couldn't download it).

Also, I have had SquirrelMail break on upgrades due to differences in the
configuration format. This happened in testing, so is probably not a big
problem (I run testing on my production server, yes, I know). It has
(appearantly permenantly) lost the themes.

I'd suggest installing SquirrelMail, but be prepared to get your hands
dirty a little. Great little program and there are tons of add-on modules
you can, but don't have to, install. I especially like the fortune module.
:)

Perl vs PHP? I'm a Perl programmer, and have a bias. But, it seems PHP is
more prone to breaking. However, whether it is a problem with the language
or a problem with the type of programmers using it, I don't know.
VisualBasic is actually a pretty good language, but the programmers who
use it are generally not professionals or experienced, so you get lower
quality software as a result. SquirrelMail is, as far as I've seen, done
by some programmers who know what they are doing, and it is pretty stable.

Rod


> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
>>
>> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
>> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
>> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
>> work?
>>
>
> I just think that's because he like perl and is more confortable with
> perl than php so he prefer to have perl softwares... of course, it's not
> really interesting to have bash written in perl, but a webmail is often
> modified for own purpose so a known (and easy for you) language could be
> one think to consider in such a choice.
>
> That's my analyze, and I agree with me ;-)
>
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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Emmanuel Lacour
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
> 
> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
> work?
> 

I just think that's because he like perl and is more confortable with
perl than php so he prefer to have perl softwares... of course, it's not
really interesting to have bash written in perl, but a webmail is often
modified for own purpose so a known (and easy for you) language could be
one think to consider in such a choice.

That's my analyze, and I agree with me ;-)

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote:
> > SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks.
> > 
> > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.
> 
> Why does the implementation language matter?  Do you care if your
> system binaries are written in C vs C++?
> 
> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
> work?

I'm not the OP, but I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that it's
far more likely that you're going to tweak a web-app than some "system
binary".  Therefore, implementation does matter.

Also, many people are already running mod_perl; it's nicer to
leverage that than to configure additional modules.  In my expereince,
mod_perl + apache interaction is more stable than PHP + apache,
especially across upgrades.

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Jeremy Zawodny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote:
>> SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks.
>> 
>> It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.
>
> Why does the implementation language matter?  Do you care if your
> system binaries are written in C vs C++?

Yes.  Certainly, I care whether they're written in a systems
programming language (C, C++), a good stable interpreted language
(Python, Perl), or somebody's favorite toy language with semantics
resembling a language best left on the dustheap of the eighties (Copy
on read?  What were they thinking?).

I'd rather have an SSH server written in a garbage-collected language
with mandatory bounds checking, for example: on those machines which
aren't terminal servers, OpenSSH's has about ten times as much code as
I'd like.

> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
> work?

Yes.  PHP's not Ultimate Evil, it's just kind of chintzy:

* It's a special-purpose language, but used to write large
  applications.  General purpose languages tend to pick up more
  mindshare, attract better programmers, and pick up more eyeballs
  skimming for bugs.  Their code's more maintainable, too.

* The language was never planned.  PHP is still at the stage Perl was
  with Perl 4: a bunch of Neat Features without any idea of what
  happens when you use them all at once.

* Because of its niche, it picks up an unusually high proportion of
  poor programmers.  This doesn't affect any *particular* program -- I
  use SquirrelMail myself, and love it -- it's just that "PHP" is as
  much of a warning sign to me when looking at a programmer's resume
  as seeing one published piece of software, an IRC client.

* It's very easy to use PHP insecurely.  This is compounded by the PHP
  engine's security record.

So what does this mean for you, as an ISP considering two
web-interface applications, one written in PHP, and the other in Perl
(say, with Mason)?  You have reason to be more nervous about the machine
the PHP app is on, and you'll have to search more widely and examine
candidates more closely when finding maintenance programmers.

-Brian

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Matthew King
It's emphasised bigotry.

On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 11:13:05AM -0700, The voices made Jeremy Zawodny say:
> On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote:
> > It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.
> 
> Why does the implementation language matter?

Basically because I don't like PHP and I like (and more importantly -
know) Perl.

> Do you care if your system binaries are written in C vs C++?

No, but 1) they're compiled languages and 2) they're not that
dissimilar (and I know them both :-)

> I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
> that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
> matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
> work?

Though yes, I am trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
work.

I don't know why, and it could quite easily just be me, but I've had a
lot of issues with getting PHP sites to work (eg. imp and phpGW)

At the end of the day, though, PHP vs Perl (vs Python), VI vs Emacs, C
vs C++, BSD vs Linux, etc., etc., etc. They're all the same - boring.

As a geek I have a million and one better things to do than argue why
one tool is better than another. I have my opinions, but they're mine
and not anyone elses.

I do, however, find it rather amusing to see how easily my fellow
geeks can be reduced to squabbling children.

Not in this forum, though. Nosir. :-)

Matthew

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 02:23:58PM +0100, Matthew King wrote:
> SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks.
> 
> It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.

Why does the implementation language matter?  Do you care if your
system binaries are written in C vs C++?

I always wonder what people really mean when they say things like
that--especially in this sort of context.  Can you clarify why it
matters?  Are you trying to imply that PHP software is less likely to
work?

Jeremy
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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Martin Kos
On Tue, 6 May 2003, Dominik Schulz wrote:

>I need an Webmail that works with Maildir or if this isn't possible with
>IMAP. IMP is a bit to overloaded in my opinion.
have you tried sqwebmail? .. i'm very happy with it!.. it accesses the
maildirs directly, so you don't need any pop or imap server. (i use it
with qmail & vpopmail)

greets
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RE: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread W.D.McKinney
Due to customers like the interface, we run @Mail. See
http://www.webbasedemail.com
It's commercial though.

Dee

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Thanks for the info.
Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use
it?
However... Is there any better web based mail?
Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

El Domingo, 20 de Abril de 2003 18:41, Ola Lundqvist escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
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> Hello
>
> The imp debian package is depricated. You should really use the
> imp3 packages from sarge. The support for imp2 (imp package) stopped
> upstream over a year ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> // Ola (The imp package maintainer, but not imp3 :)
>
> > Hi
> > I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
> > When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of
> > the full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared
> > something like that:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I looked at the database and I found this "<" in the "Full Name" field.
I
> > looked where this string was added to the database and I found this
> > function ___
> > if (isset($fullname) && ($fullname != $old_fullname)) {
> > // filter for existing quotes
> > if (substr($fullname, 0, 1) == '"' && substr($fullname, -1) == '"')
{
> >  $fullname = substr($fullname, 1, -1);
> >  }
> >  // filter for illegal characters
> >  $quoted = imap_rfc822_write_address('', '', $fullname);
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> >  if (!(imp_set_fullname(addslashes($quoted), $imp->user,
> > $imp->server))) { $errormsg .= $lang->fullname_error; $updated = false;
> >  }
> > }
> > ___
> >
> > I don't know a lot about PHP, so I don't fully understand this function,
> > but I changed the 8th line
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > changing the -4 for a -5
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-5);
> >
> > and now it works perfectly (I think).
> >
> > My questions are:
> > Anyone faced this problem before? (In other words, is this a real bug or
> > it's only on my IMP?)
> > Should I inform IMP Debian package mantainer? Or IMP coders?
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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Matthew King
SquirrelMail. Webmail for nuts. Sounds weird, but it rocks.

It's in PHP (I'd personally prefer perl) but it still works.

I never could get imp to work properly, but I tried squirrel and
eventually just forgot about imp & horde.

The communication with the server is over the IMAP protocol, so it
doesn't actually matter which mail store format you use (or which IMAP
server, for that matter, you could probably use exchange if it's got
around to implementing IMAP properly yet).

Try it out. I like it, my customers like it, and it rocks.

Matthew King

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Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Dominik Schulz

Tomàs Núñez Lirola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 6 May 2003 11:24:55 +0200:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use
> it?
> However... Is there any better web based mail?
> Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

You don't need no package for IMP. Just download and install it from the
Homepage (horde.org). It won't mess up your system because it's only PHP.
I'm not really happy with it but it's the only webmail that works with
my configuration and complies with my requirements (free, Maildir/IMAP
support). If anybody has a suggestion what to use I'd be happy to hear
your comments. I need an Webmail that works with Maildir or if this
isn't possible with IMAP. IMP is a bit to overloaded in my opinion.


Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards
Dominik Schulz




Re: Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Albert Teixidó
Hi,

I use Squirrelmail from Woody as my prefered webmail. It's fast, easy to
administer, nice, and with a lot of plugins. It handles a lot of imap4
folders (maildirs) with an average of 2000 mails per folder at home, with
5 users, in a P233MMX with 32 megs of RAM, and it's FAST. I have tried
others, but with less features or ugly interfaces... Give it a try:
http://www.squirrelmail.org
Hope this help,

Albert

Tomàs Núñez Lirola dijo:
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> Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to
> use it?
> However... Is there any better web based mail?
> Which webmail do you prefer? Why?
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Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

2003-05-06 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
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Thanks for the info.
Now I wonder why IMP3 have not a testing package... Would it be safe to use
it?
However... Is there any better web based mail?
Which webmail do you prefer? Why?

El Domingo, 20 de Abril de 2003 18:41, Ola Lundqvist escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 01:30:57PM +0200, Tomàs Núñez Lirola wrote:
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> Hello
>
> The imp debian package is depricated. You should really use the
> imp3 packages from sarge. The support for imp2 (imp package) stopped
> upstream over a year ago.
>
> Regards,
>
> // Ola (The imp package maintainer, but not imp3 :)
>
> > Hi
> > I think I've found a bug in IMP Debian package.
> > When I saved "Full Name" on preferences, IMP added a "<" to the end of
> > the full name. Then, when I sent a message, the "From:" appeared
> > something like that:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I looked at the database and I found this "<" in the "Full Name" field. I
> > looked where this string was added to the database and I found this
> > function ___
> > if (isset($fullname) && ($fullname != $old_fullname)) {
> > // filter for existing quotes
> > if (substr($fullname, 0, 1) == '"' && substr($fullname, -1) == '"') {
> >  $fullname = substr($fullname, 1, -1);
> >  }
> >  // filter for illegal characters
> >  $quoted = imap_rfc822_write_address('', '', $fullname);
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> >  if (!(imp_set_fullname(addslashes($quoted), $imp->user,
> > $imp->server))) { $errormsg .= $lang->fullname_error; $updated = false;
> >  }
> > }
> > ___
> >
> > I don't know a lot about PHP, so I don't fully understand this function,
> > but I changed the 8th line
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-4);
> > changing the -4 for a -5
> >  $quoted = substr($quoted, 0, strlen($quoted)-5);
> >
> > and now it works perfectly (I think).
> >
> > My questions are:
> > Anyone faced this problem before? (In other words, is this a real bug or
> > it's only on my IMP?)
> > Should I inform IMP Debian package mantainer? Or IMP coders?
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