Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-08 Thread Jernej Horvat
Wednesday 03 December 2003 15:36, Marcel Hicking 

 To throw into something different:
 PowerDNS works fine with MySQL as a  backend

http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-dns/0310/msg00048.html

short version :)  i use nsd for authoritive dns servers and bind9 for 
recursive.

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-08 Thread Jernej Horvat
Wednesday 03 December 2003 15:36, Marcel Hicking 

 To throw into something different:
 PowerDNS works fine with MySQL as a  backend

http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-dns/0310/msg00048.html

short version :)  i use nsd for authoritive dns servers and bind9 for 
recursive.

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-03 Thread Marcel Hicking
--Tuesday, December 02, 2003 17:18:05 -0500 Fraser Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On December 2, 2003 10:46 am, David Zejda wrote:
 
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

To throw into something different:
PowerDNS works fine with MySQL as a  backend
(there are other backends for PostgreSQL, LDAP
etc available).

Packaged as pdns
See also http://www.powerdns.com/

Cheers, Marcel



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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-03 Thread David Zejda
thanks for reply!
i only guess, as well as your dns depends on some database (RDBMS or LDAP or
something else), it increases the danger of attacks, especially DoS (db is
down - dns respectively). flat files can't be down. wouldn't be better to
generate flat files from the backend db to avoid such risks?
have you ever had such problems?
David

 David Zejda wrote:

  what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
  experiences/stability...?
  i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
  thanks
  David
 
 
 We are running mydns on our auth name servers, feeding them data from a
 self made PHP-based web interface. Works like a charm. Only drawback is
 it's only available in testing and unstable (but most of our servers un
 testing and are rock stable)

 Thomas


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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-03 Thread Fraser Campbell
On December 3, 2003 04:04 pm, David Zejda wrote:

 thanks for reply!
 i only guess, as well as your dns depends on some database (RDBMS or LDAP
 or something else), it increases the danger of attacks, especially DoS (db
 is down - dns respectively). flat files can't be down. wouldn't be
 better to generate flat files from the backend db to avoid such risks?
 have you ever had such problems?

I would agree with you, others may not.  It's trivial to generate appropriate 
zone files from a database so (assuming you want your zones in a database) 
I'd still go with generating the files periodically rather than having DNS 
constantly polling the db.


  David Zejda wrote:
   what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
   experiences/stability...?
   i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
  
   thanks
   David
 
  We are running mydns on our auth name servers, feeding them data from a
  self made PHP-based web interface. Works like a charm. Only drawback is
  it's only available in testing and unstable (but most of our servers un
  testing and are rock stable)
 
  Thomas

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-03 Thread David Zejda
thanks for reply!
i only guess, as well as your dns depends on some database (RDBMS or LDAP or
something else), it increases the danger of attacks, especially DoS (db is
down - dns respectively). flat files can't be down. wouldn't be better to
generate flat files from the backend db to avoid such risks?
have you ever had such problems?
David

 David Zejda wrote:

  what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
  experiences/stability...?
  i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
  thanks
  David
 
 
 We are running mydns on our auth name servers, feeding them data from a
 self made PHP-based web interface. Works like a charm. Only drawback is
 it's only available in testing and unstable (but most of our servers un
 testing and are rock stable)

 Thomas




bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread David Zejda
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

thanks
David


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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Sneferu
For speed

maradns.org.

Somwhat more secure djbdns.

Regards.

At 17:46 02.12.2003, David Zejda wrote:

what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
thanks
David
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore J. Knab
Bind 9 is a total revamp of Bind 8.

Bind8 had a bunch of security holes in it, so tinyDNS
and the others came about. Bind9 was a rewrite from scratch
with security as a goal. 

Bind9 is good for all types of general DNS stuff.

Tiny-DNS is probably good for some applications,
however you are going to find more documentation
on Bind than anything else.

http://www.nominum.com/getOpenSourceResource.php?id=6

On 02/12/03 16:46 +0100, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 
 
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 06:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 


Have to start somewhere so dive in after you feel you enough info. :-)
We run djbdns,rbldns,etc., right now. All under Woody and one FreeBSD
box.

We have used Bind9 also and both have advantages. I like djbdns for the
ease of editing which is personal taste. Bind9 has more available for
GUI front-ends and hooks with other applications. 

So usually I recommend people start with Bind so as to prove the saying,
'Only the experienced walk with a limp.' 

That said, you may very well be happy with either as they both power the
Net.

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Fraser Campbell
On December 2, 2003 10:46 am, David Zejda wrote:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

For an authoritative only server there is nsd.  It's only available in 
unstable but it should be easy enough to backport.  I've only used it on my 
home network so far but I do plan to eventually use it in my hosting 
business, I rather like the idea of diversity (bind being the defacto 
standard for dns it is subject to much more attacks).

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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:46:55PM +0100,
 David Zejda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 11 lines which said:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?

nsd. See
URL:http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/sheets/practical/nameserver-en
for a good reason.



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bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread David Zejda
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

thanks
David




Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Sneferu
For speed
maradns.org.
Somwhat more secure djbdns.
Regards.
At 17:46 02.12.2003, David Zejda wrote:
what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
experiences/stability...?
i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
thanks
David
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Theodore J. Knab
Bind 9 is a total revamp of Bind 8.

Bind8 had a bunch of security holes in it, so tinyDNS
and the others came about. Bind9 was a rewrite from scratch
with security as a goal. 

Bind9 is good for all types of general DNS stuff.

Tiny-DNS is probably good for some applications,
however you are going to find more documentation
on Bind than anything else.

http://www.nominum.com/getOpenSourceResource.php?id=6

On 02/12/03 16:46 +0100, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 
 
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Alex Borges
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 09:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

Please explore the list for a three month very fun discussion about it
(i still remember it).

 
 thanks
 David
 




Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread W.D.McKinney
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 06:46, David Zejda wrote:
 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.
 
 thanks
 David
 


Have to start somewhere so dive in after you feel you enough info. :-)
We run djbdns,rbldns,etc., right now. All under Woody and one FreeBSD
box.

We have used Bind9 also and both have advantages. I like djbdns for the
ease of editing which is personal taste. Bind9 has more available for
GUI front-ends and hooks with other applications. 

So usually I recommend people start with Bind so as to prove the saying,
'Only the experienced walk with a limp.' 

That said, you may very well be happy with either as they both power the
Net.

Dee

 
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Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Fraser Campbell
On December 2, 2003 10:46 am, David Zejda wrote:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?
 experiences/stability...?
 i have no verbose bind knowledge yet.

For an authoritative only server there is nsd.  It's only available in 
unstable but it should be easy enough to backport.  I've only used it on my 
home network so far but I do plan to eventually use it in my hosting 
business, I rather like the idea of diversity (bind being the defacto 
standard for dns it is subject to much more attacks).

-- 
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Georgetown, Ontario, Canada   Debian GNU/Linux




Re: bind9 vs tinydns vs others

2003-12-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:46:55PM +0100,
 David Zejda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 11 lines which said:

 what do you prefer for authoritative dns?

nsd. See
URL:http://www.nic-generique.prd.fr/sheets/practical/nameserver-en
for a good reason.