Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Packy Anderson

Thedore Knab [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes:
> Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
> proof alternative ?

Other people have answered the ColdFusion/Debian part, so I'll put in my
two bits on this part.

I've done development with CF and I find it somewhat similar to PHP.  The
quick answer I give to most folks is that PHP is like embedding C or Perl
in a web page, where ColdFusion is like embedding COBOL in a web page.
There are some things that CF is very good at: I'd like to lift its CFQUERY
and CFOUTPUT tags and plop them down in PHP--they make doing a database
query and using it to generate an HTML page a piece of cake.  It's regular
expression support, however, is inferior to PHP's, which has a bunch of
functions that essentially implement Perl's regexp engine.

I'd say ColdFusion is a bit easier for beginners, since it keeps the HTML
tag-based paradigm, but personally I'd choose PHP.

-packy

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Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Angus D Madden

Thedore Knab, Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:47:29AM -0500: 
> 
> Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
> proof alternative ?
> 

Depends on your definition of dummy-proof, but I would start them with
PHP.  Very easy learning curve, great application support, and a smooth
transition for graphic designers.

I would look into an application framework to run on top of PHP,
allowing a single developer to build classes that can be easily used by
newer programmers.

g


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Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Ramin Motakef

Thedore Knab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is anyone running Cold Fusion 4.5 on Debian ?
> 
> People in my organization are looking at Cold Fusion for it's advertised simplicity.
> 
> I prefer sticking with Debian.
> 
> Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
> proof alternative ?
> 
> -Ted

We are running ColdFusion 5 on Debian (sid) with only one little Problem:
The Postges ODBC Driver they deliver doesn't work, but the UnixODBC
Driver does. So you have to manage your odbc.ini with .

We had the 4.5 (i think it was a personal edition ore something?)
running for evaluation too.

Ramin 

 


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Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Markus Oswald

On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 14:47, Thedore Knab wrote:

> Is anyone running Cold Fusion 4.5 on Debian ?

Not 4.5, but I installed Coldfusion 5 without any problems on a bunch of
Debian (woody) boxes for some ouf our customers. I guess 4.5 will work
just fine too...

BTW: You don't have to use alien and install some strange RPMS - just
get the native packages via 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1'

> Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
> proof alternative ?

PHP4?

regards
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Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread fnijenlist

we have coldfusion 4.5/5.0 up&running on debian sinces some time now (2 
years i think) .no problems except it's expensive..very...
Development time of applications is rather short..the language is self can 
be learned very quickly, with the 5.0 is finally getting mature...
we started with cf on solaris at version 3.0 i think...and it sucked back 
then...lot of server load problems, performance issues etc.
Seems to be the past

If i recall there was one redhat lib package we had to alien to  a deb 
package and after that it was simply running the install script, no redhat 
nasty's in there. We never tried the clustercats software coming with the 
coldfusion server software..but the coldfusion server itself is ok.


Frank

At 08:47 AM 3/22/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Is anyone running Cold Fusion 4.5 on Debian ?
>
>People in my organization are looking at Cold Fusion for it's advertised 
>simplicity.
>
>I prefer sticking with Debian.
>
>Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
>proof alternative ?
>
>-Ted
>
>
>References:
>
>Cold-Fusion Server 4.5.1 Installation and configuration on Debian
>GNU/Linux 2.2
>http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=17481&Method=Full
>
>
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Re: cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 08:47:29AM -0500,
 Thedore Knab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
 a message of 22 lines which said:

> Is anyone running Cold Fusion 4.5 on Debian ?

Debian is about free software, so probably not many (at least I hope
so).
 
> Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
> proof alternative ?

You call Cold Fusion simple?

Anyway, the best competitor, IMHO, is Zope http://www.zope.org/>.






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cold fusion 4.5 on Debian

2002-03-22 Thread Thedore Knab

Is anyone running Cold Fusion 4.5 on Debian ?

People in my organization are looking at Cold Fusion for it's advertised simplicity.

I prefer sticking with Debian.

Are there any other simple packages that I might recommend as a dummy
proof alternative ?

-Ted


References:

Cold-Fusion Server 4.5.1 Installation and configuration on Debian
GNU/Linux 2.2
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=17481&Method=Full


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