Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Do, den 22.04.2004 schrieb Lucas Albers um 19:54: Hu? I installed Woody (bf24) on a couple of DL380G3 without a hitch - the cciss works just fine and you can of course boot from it. The only special thing I do is to load the module for the installed NIC (Broadcom bcm57xx - tg3.o) so I can download a new kernel as soon as the base-system is installed... We are planning to get some proliant DL380G2 systems. With the HP Smart Array HP Smart Array 6402 controller. Do you really mean DL380G2 and not DL380G3? G2 is out-of-production for quite some time now... The DL380G3 has a SmartArray 5i onboard, so you wont need an extra RAID controller unless you need more channels. You installed onto this system using sarge? Or drivers disks with bf24? I'm very interested in your setup steps. I just installed another DL380G3 yesterday with Woody. Even using iLO as no monitor was nearby and I was too lazy to get one... Here's my procedure - definitely easier than Nathans approach ;o) Prepare a floppy with the module for the GbE interfaces. Get the source from Broadcom and compile against 2.4.18-bf24 or use the module from my website (http://people.iirc.at/moswald/linux/bf24_modules/bcm5700/). Copy bmc5700.o to your floppy into the /boot directory. - Put in a standard Woody CD, boot from it and start with bf24 - Continue as on any other system - Before you can setup your network, choose preload modules from floppy and insert the disk with the module and load it - Configure network and continue as usual - Reboot - Before finishing the installation, change to another console and load module from floppy again [1] and setup your network. - Switch back to the first console and continue with installation, download security-fixes and maybe a new kernel [2] I think it's quite straightforward, as you just need to preload a single modules from floppy - the rest is just another Woody setup... And if you want sarge, well, install woody and update to sarge - definitely a lot less work ;o) [1] Copy it to your disk and adapt /etc/modules if you want to continue using 2.4.18-bf24. I usually install a current kernel before I reboot again so I don't care... [2] I've packaged DL380G3 kernels and the corresponding .config on my website - they're used on quite a few servers. -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 11:29:36AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 02:22, Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:25:00PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I thought the point of initrd was that everything didn't need to be compiled into the kernel, not even the root device. I suspect tweaking the initrd image is all that would be required for a stock kernel to boot. Add the module to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-build the initrd image. Installing a standard kernel package should build the initrd image for you. I'm not a d-i expert so I don't know why it didn't work, but I do know that d-i was unable to install grub or lilo. Given the error messages I got (something about Can't determine BIOS drive number for /dev/cciss/disc0/disc) I figured this had something to do with the module vs. compiled in. If there's no boot block, it really doesn't matter what's in the kernel or initrd (the initrd was built correctly BTW). The machine is up and running fine now and grub installed without a hitch. I compiled my own kernel and linked in cciss. I used boot floppy with my new kernel to get over the hurdle of the inital reboot btween I'm installing off the CD and I'm downloading actual debs to complete the install. We are getting another DL360 and a DL380 (and I'll have more time) so I plan to explore this in more detail so I can open bugs with the d-i team. d-i is very nice! -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quando omni flunkus moritati. -- Possum Lodge Motto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:24:49PM +0200, Markus Oswald wrote: Am Sa, den 17.04.2004 schrieb Nathan Eric Norman um 18:22: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. Hu? I installed Woody (bf24) on a couple of DL380G3 without a hitch - the cciss works just fine and you can of course boot from it. The only special thing I do is to load the module for the installed NIC (Broadcom bcm57xx - tg3.o) so I can download a new kernel as soon as the base-system is installed... Good point if I were using the woody boot-floppies. However I was using the d-i iso. I also tried the d-i floppy images. In no case can you of course boot from it. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
Nathan Eric Norman said: This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. Hu? I installed Woody (bf24) on a couple of DL380G3 without a hitch - the cciss works just fine and you can of course boot from it. The only special thing I do is to load the module for the installed NIC (Broadcom bcm57xx - tg3.o) so I can download a new kernel as soon as the base-system is installed... We are planning to get some proliant DL380G2 systems. With the HP Smart Array HP Smart Array 6402 controller. You installed onto this system using sarge? Or drivers disks with bf24? I'm very interested in your setup steps. -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:54:39AM -0600, Lucas Albers wrote: We are planning to get some proliant DL380G2 systems. With the HP Smart Array HP Smart Array 6402 controller. You installed onto this system using sarge? Or drivers disks with bf24? I'm very interested in your setup steps. So far I've installed onto a DL360 with the sarge debian-installer. I have not tried the woody boot-floppies at all. I'm getting another DL360 and a DL380 (which AIUI is mostly the same components, including the SmartArray). I will certainly share my experiences! The DL380 gets ordered Monday, so it'll be a good week or two before I get this going. Here's the procedure I used to get the first DL360 going. This procedure requires access to another linux box so you can compile a kernel. This procedure is hackish and gross. * get the d-i iso and burn it. I used sarge-i386-businesscard.iso * get the d-i boot.img floppy image and dd it to a floppy. * on another box, compile a kernel. Link in modules you want like cciss. I kept tg3 as a module though. The kernel you compile has to allow module loading and contain other obvious support like IDE, filesystem types, etc. * mount the floppy you created and copy your new kernel to it, using the same name as the old kernel (linux). * edit syslinux.cfg on the floppy and change the append line after default linux to something like append vga=normal devfs=mount,dall rw root=/dev/cciss/disc0/part1 Make sure the device name matches the root partition you plan to install into, and use the old names if you don't compile devfs into your kernel. * Insert the CD and fire up the target machine. You should be able to install without any problems, with two caveats: 1) d-i uses devfs. However, the mini-base system that is installed initially uses makedev to create device nodes in /dev. This is a problem because when the kernel-image installs it attempts to create an initrd. It gets confused because the current root device (e.g. /dev/cciss/disc0/part1) does not exist in /target! I got around this by manually creating the devices nodes in /target/dev/cciss/disc0 once the installer formatted and mounted the root partition. The major number is 104, minor 0 is disc and minor numbers 1 through 15 refer to partitions 1 through 15 respectively. 2) The bootloader will not install (try it, if it works for you let me know so we can compare and figure out the difference). Therefore I chose Skip Bootloader (or whatever the exact choice is). * at this point the system wants to reboot to begin the second stage of the install. Here you want to remove the CD and insert your boot floppy. Once you hit enter at the syslinux prompt you should boot to your new install and complete the installation. * at this point I downloaded the necessary packages to compile a kernel (make-kpkg, kernel-source, etc.) and compiled a kernel locally. If you were more clever than I you could use the kernel you created earlier. * I installed the grub package, ran grub and installed manually. End result: I have a fast server that was a pain in the ass to set up! Nice machine though. I hope to be able to come up with a more seamless install for the next two. To that end I've subscribed to debian-boot to see if I can help with d-i. One other hint: if you have the Compaq flatscreen monitor that they sell for rackmount installs, disable the framebuffer at the syslinux screen - you'll be much happier. Feel free to ask questions if my directions suck, but please keep it on the list. Best regards, -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll tell you what kind of guy I was. If you ordered a boxcar full of sons-of-bitches and opened the door and only found me inside, you could consider the order filled. -- Robert Mitchum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 02:33, Nathan Eric Norman wrote: [...] This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I thought the point of initrd was that everything didn't need to be compiled into the kernel, not even the root device. I suspect tweaking the initrd image is all that would be required for a stock kernel to boot. Add the module to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-build the initrd image. Installing a standard kernel package should build the initrd image for you. I'm not a d-i expert so I don't know why it didn't work, but I do know that d-i was unable to install grub or lilo. Given the error messages I got (something about Can't determine BIOS drive number for /dev/cciss/disc0/disc) I figured this had something to do with the module vs. compiled in. If there's no boot block, it really doesn't matter what's in the kernel or initrd (the initrd was built correctly BTW). [...] That sounds more like a devfs problem. As you pointed out, there is the potential for confusion between the d-i using devfs and the target not using it. I hit this at one point with an early d-i setup (I was fiddling with debootstrap and chroot stuff). No amount of frigging around could convince lilo to work. d-i is very nice! Was this beta-3? I found it pretty good too, provided it worked. I spent about an hour frigging around using the floppy boot/root on an old 486 before I realised that the reason the partitioner was not working was because the standard ide modules were on a supplementary driver disk. The instructions indicated that these would not be required unless you had strange network or cdrom requirements. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 11:29:36AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 02:22, Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:25:00PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I thought the point of initrd was that everything didn't need to be compiled into the kernel, not even the root device. I suspect tweaking the initrd image is all that would be required for a stock kernel to boot. Add the module to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-build the initrd image. Installing a standard kernel package should build the initrd image for you. I'm not a d-i expert so I don't know why it didn't work, but I do know that d-i was unable to install grub or lilo. Given the error messages I got (something about Can't determine BIOS drive number for /dev/cciss/disc0/disc) I figured this had something to do with the module vs. compiled in. If there's no boot block, it really doesn't matter what's in the kernel or initrd (the initrd was built correctly BTW). The machine is up and running fine now and grub installed without a hitch. I compiled my own kernel and linked in cciss. I used boot floppy with my new kernel to get over the hurdle of the inital reboot btween I'm installing off the CD and I'm downloading actual debs to complete the install. We are getting another DL360 and a DL380 (and I'll have more time) so I plan to explore this in more detail so I can open bugs with the d-i team. d-i is very nice! -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quando omni flunkus moritati. -- Possum Lodge Motto
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:24:49PM +0200, Markus Oswald wrote: Am Sa, den 17.04.2004 schrieb Nathan Eric Norman um 18:22: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. Hu? I installed Woody (bf24) on a couple of DL380G3 without a hitch - the cciss works just fine and you can of course boot from it. The only special thing I do is to load the module for the installed NIC (Broadcom bcm57xx - tg3.o) so I can download a new kernel as soon as the base-system is installed... Good point if I were using the woody boot-floppies. However I was using the d-i iso. I also tried the d-i floppy images. In no case can you of course boot from it. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:54:39AM -0600, Lucas Albers wrote: We are planning to get some proliant DL380G2 systems. With the HP Smart Array HP Smart Array 6402 controller. You installed onto this system using sarge? Or drivers disks with bf24? I'm very interested in your setup steps. So far I've installed onto a DL360 with the sarge debian-installer. I have not tried the woody boot-floppies at all. I'm getting another DL360 and a DL380 (which AIUI is mostly the same components, including the SmartArray). I will certainly share my experiences! The DL380 gets ordered Monday, so it'll be a good week or two before I get this going. Here's the procedure I used to get the first DL360 going. This procedure requires access to another linux box so you can compile a kernel. This procedure is hackish and gross. * get the d-i iso and burn it. I used sarge-i386-businesscard.iso * get the d-i boot.img floppy image and dd it to a floppy. * on another box, compile a kernel. Link in modules you want like cciss. I kept tg3 as a module though. The kernel you compile has to allow module loading and contain other obvious support like IDE, filesystem types, etc. * mount the floppy you created and copy your new kernel to it, using the same name as the old kernel (linux). * edit syslinux.cfg on the floppy and change the append line after default linux to something like append vga=normal devfs=mount,dall rw root=/dev/cciss/disc0/part1 Make sure the device name matches the root partition you plan to install into, and use the old names if you don't compile devfs into your kernel. * Insert the CD and fire up the target machine. You should be able to install without any problems, with two caveats: 1) d-i uses devfs. However, the mini-base system that is installed initially uses makedev to create device nodes in /dev. This is a problem because when the kernel-image installs it attempts to create an initrd. It gets confused because the current root device (e.g. /dev/cciss/disc0/part1) does not exist in /target! I got around this by manually creating the devices nodes in /target/dev/cciss/disc0 once the installer formatted and mounted the root partition. The major number is 104, minor 0 is disc and minor numbers 1 through 15 refer to partitions 1 through 15 respectively. 2) The bootloader will not install (try it, if it works for you let me know so we can compare and figure out the difference). Therefore I chose Skip Bootloader (or whatever the exact choice is). * at this point the system wants to reboot to begin the second stage of the install. Here you want to remove the CD and insert your boot floppy. Once you hit enter at the syslinux prompt you should boot to your new install and complete the installation. * at this point I downloaded the necessary packages to compile a kernel (make-kpkg, kernel-source, etc.) and compiled a kernel locally. If you were more clever than I you could use the kernel you created earlier. * I installed the grub package, ran grub and installed manually. End result: I have a fast server that was a pain in the ass to set up! Nice machine though. I hope to be able to come up with a more seamless install for the next two. To that end I've subscribed to debian-boot to see if I can help with d-i. One other hint: if you have the Compaq flatscreen monitor that they sell for rackmount installs, disable the framebuffer at the syslinux screen - you'll be much happier. Feel free to ask questions if my directions suck, but please keep it on the list. Best regards, -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll tell you what kind of guy I was. If you ordered a boxcar full of sons-of-bitches and opened the door and only found me inside, you could consider the order filled. -- Robert Mitchum
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 02:33, Nathan Eric Norman wrote: [...] This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I thought the point of initrd was that everything didn't need to be compiled into the kernel, not even the root device. I suspect tweaking the initrd image is all that would be required for a stock kernel to boot. Add the module to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-build the initrd image. Installing a standard kernel package should build the initrd image for you. I'm not a d-i expert so I don't know why it didn't work, but I do know that d-i was unable to install grub or lilo. Given the error messages I got (something about Can't determine BIOS drive number for /dev/cciss/disc0/disc) I figured this had something to do with the module vs. compiled in. If there's no boot block, it really doesn't matter what's in the kernel or initrd (the initrd was built correctly BTW). [...] That sounds more like a devfs problem. As you pointed out, there is the potential for confusion between the d-i using devfs and the target not using it. I hit this at one point with an early d-i setup (I was fiddling with debootstrap and chroot stuff). No amount of frigging around could convince lilo to work. d-i is very nice! Was this beta-3? I found it pretty good too, provided it worked. I spent about an hour frigging around using the floppy boot/root on an old 486 before I realised that the reason the partitioner was not working was because the standard ide modules were on a supplementary driver disk. The instructions indicated that these would not be required unless you had strange network or cdrom requirements. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 02:22, Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:25:00PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I thought the point of initrd was that everything didn't need to be compiled into the kernel, not even the root device. I suspect tweaking the initrd image is all that would be required for a stock kernel to boot. Add the module to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-build the initrd image. Installing a standard kernel package should build the initrd image for you. -- Donovan Baarda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Jose Alberto Guzman wrote: Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, I usually either copy a recent kernel source and compile whatever I need, or install an eepro100 (or other supported) card to finish. The trick is to install with the bf24 kernel: version 2.4.18. Check the help at the Woody CD install boot prompt. José PS. please reply to the list
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:25:00PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I'll probably have to gin up my own iso. Perhaps I can create a boot floppy with cciss in the initrd in order to reboot and then compile a kernel. I have created a kernel already but it was too large to fit on the d-i boot floppy. I don't want to put too much time into this; our company has a lot of Compaq/HP and I've been asked to find out how hard it is to install Debian. If it's too hard (read: time invested is too high) then we'll go buy IBM instead for the Linux servers. Best regards, -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll tell you what kind of guy I was. If you ordered a boxcar full of sons-of-bitches and opened the door and only found me inside, you could consider the order filled. -- Robert Mitchum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Sa, den 17.04.2004 schrieb Nathan Eric Norman um 18:22: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. Hu? I installed Woody (bf24) on a couple of DL380G3 without a hitch - the cciss works just fine and you can of course boot from it. The only special thing I do is to load the module for the installed NIC (Broadcom bcm57xx - tg3.o) so I can download a new kernel as soon as the base-system is installed... I don't want to put too much time into this; our company has a lot of Compaq/HP and I've been asked to find out how hard it is to install Debian. If it's too hard (read: time invested is too high) then we'll go buy IBM instead for the Linux servers. We have a lot of them in production too - BECAUSE they're fast to setup and work flawlessly... ;o) best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Mi, den 14.04.2004 schrieb Christopher Sharp um 21:36: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. Which chipset is being used on current DL320G3 machines? Most Promise chipsets work just fine with Woody. The ML330 uses another chipset without OSS drivers... BTW: If the NIC is a Broadcom bcm57xx (as in most newer ProLiant I've seen) - you can use the drivers from Broadcom and compile them against 2.4.18-bf24 or grab the binaries from my homepage: http://people.iirc.at/moswald/linux/bf24_modules/bcm5700/ (Note: you'll need the bcm5700.o NOT the tg3.o. Kernels from 2.4.19 upwards include tg3.o which will work with the bcm57xx chipset) I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. As I already said: megaide.o includes proprietary code and therefore cannot be included within Debian or the stock kernel. You'll have to compile it yourself and put it on a boot floppy just as Lucas Albers described it a few days ago. Furthermore a module compiled against 2.4.25 wont work with 2.4.18! Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I doubt LSI will allow a binary redistribution of their (partly proprietary) drivers... best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Jose Alberto Guzman wrote: Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, I usually either copy a recent kernel source and compile whatever I need, or install an eepro100 (or other supported) card to finish. The trick is to install with the bf24 kernel: version 2.4.18. Check the help at the Woody CD install boot prompt. José PS. please reply to the list
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:25:00PM -0400, Dan MacNeil wrote: The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, The network installer for sarge detects the t3 gig-ethernet adaptor automagically. --We're moving to Sarge now. This is true, but d-i doesn't support booting off the SmartArray because the cciss driver is a module. I already installed onto a DL360, but couldn't install a bootblock. I'll probably have to gin up my own iso. Perhaps I can create a boot floppy with cciss in the initrd in order to reboot and then compile a kernel. I have created a kernel already but it was too large to fit on the d-i boot floppy. I don't want to put too much time into this; our company has a lot of Compaq/HP and I've been asked to find out how hard it is to install Debian. If it's too hard (read: time invested is too high) then we'll go buy IBM instead for the Linux servers. Best regards, -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll tell you what kind of guy I was. If you ordered a boxcar full of sons-of-bitches and opened the door and only found me inside, you could consider the order filled. -- Robert Mitchum
Re: debian on HP proliant
I'll probably have to gin up my own iso. Perhaps I can create a boot floppy with cciss in the initrd in order to reboot and then compile a kernel. I have created a kernel already but it was too large to fit on the d-i boot floppy. huh? hard? If you have _lots_ of you may take a look at FAI (Fully automated installer). I install debian mostly by booting knoppix, enable network, create partitions (in my case linux softraid, so I have to create md0), mount them to /mnt and /mnt/boot and do a: rsync -azv -e ssh -c blowfish fileserver:/path/to/mydebian/ /mnt Then chroot to /mnt, type lilo. exit. reboot. That's it. If you have prepared a freshly debian installation already you should me able to install debian in less then 15 Mins. The advantage with your own preparend installation is, that it conatins already all the packages you usually need (or: you need at least). To me personally it's a litte annying that without tasksel or dselect to won't have common tools like iproute2, mtr-tiny and so on with a fresh setup. I also put my self-baken kernels on the installations. [NB: Someone should stop me when writing too much :-)] Another practical approch is an USB Stick as installer: http://d-i.pascal.at/ You may mount this an put modules to it's initrd easily. I could send you an dump vom my about 4 weeks old d-i on stick. Rgds, j. -- Andreas John net-lab GmbH Luisenstrasse 30b 63067 Offenbach Tel: +49 69 85700331 http://www.net-lab.net
Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Mi, den 14.04.2004 schrieb Christopher Sharp um 21:36: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. Which chipset is being used on current DL320G3 machines? Most Promise chipsets work just fine with Woody. The ML330 uses another chipset without OSS drivers... BTW: If the NIC is a Broadcom bcm57xx (as in most newer ProLiant I've seen) - you can use the drivers from Broadcom and compile them against 2.4.18-bf24 or grab the binaries from my homepage: http://people.iirc.at/moswald/linux/bf24_modules/bcm5700/ (Note: you'll need the bcm5700.o NOT the tg3.o. Kernels from 2.4.19 upwards include tg3.o which will work with the bcm57xx chipset) I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. As I already said: megaide.o includes proprietary code and therefore cannot be included within Debian or the stock kernel. You'll have to compile it yourself and put it on a boot floppy just as Lucas Albers described it a few days ago. Furthermore a module compiled against 2.4.25 wont work with 2.4.18! Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I doubt LSI will allow a binary redistribution of their (partly proprietary) drivers... best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No. Should I include quotations after my reply? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, I usually either copy a recent kernel source and compile whatever I need, or install an eepro100 (or other supported) card to finish. The trick is to install with the bf24 kernel: version 2.4.18. Check the help at the Woody CD install boot prompt. José PS. please reply to the list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No. Should I include quotations after my reply?
Re: debian on HP proliant
Nathan Eric Norman wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33:09AM -0500, Eric Sproul wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Is anyone aware of a debian-installer image which supports cciss built in? The existing d-i supports cciss just fine, but as a module. The installer from woody has built-in support for the cciss controller on at least the Proliant DL 580 G2. It works smoothly, but lacks support for the default installed 3com gig-ethernet adapter (tg3 driver), once installed, I usually either copy a recent kernel source and compile whatever I need, or install an eepro100 (or other supported) card to finish. The trick is to install with the bf24 kernel: version 2.4.18. Check the help at the Woody CD install boot prompt. José PS. please reply to the list
Re: debian on HP proliant
I really wish HP would get off their chairs and provide support for debian installer for all their HP proliants. HP to expand Debian Linux support (December 04, 2003) http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/04/HNhpdebian_1.html They haven't done anything to support debian. They just need to make a driver disk for their systems. They say they support debian, but they don't have __ANY__ debian install disks for __ANY__ of their proliant systems on __ANY__ of their webpages. It was a bitch to recompile support for raid on the ml-330 proliant system I had. Reach archives for my silly story. Install Redhat, recompile kernel, install chroot debian...blah..blah...blah. Christopher Sharp said: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I can't believe I'd really need to install Woody using bf2.4 and then upgrade just to get an ATA-RAID driver! Thanks, C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
I really wish HP would get off their chairs and provide support for debian installer for all their HP proliants. HP to expand Debian Linux support (December 04, 2003) http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/12/04/HNhpdebian_1.html They haven't done anything to support debian. They just need to make a driver disk for their systems. They say they support debian, but they don't have __ANY__ debian install disks for __ANY__ of their proliant systems on __ANY__ of their webpages. It was a bitch to recompile support for raid on the ml-330 proliant system I had. Reach archives for my silly story. Install Redhat, recompile kernel, install chroot debian...blah..blah...blah. Christopher Sharp said: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I can't believe I'd really need to install Woody using bf2.4 and then upgrade just to get an ATA-RAID driver! Thanks, C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I can't believe I'd really need to install Woody using bf2.4 and then upgrade just to get an ATA-RAID driver! Thanks, C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:11:26 +0100, Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. I got this booting in a lab with the on-board ATA-RAID using a bf2.4 kernel some weeks ago (February). I was using an HP DL320 server. The only issue with the bf2.4 kernel was requiring a net module for the NIC which I managed to succesfully extracate from the rpm and insmod. I'm now trying to do the same using the new debian-installer and testing distribution but notice that there's no megaide.o module/driver in the new three-floppy testing distribution. I've got the shim source for the driver from LSI but having compiled it on another 2.4.25 testing box and copied it onto a floppy the module is refusing to insmod on my debian-installer box. Before I start building a custom debian-installer rescue floppy with a customised kernel including this module I wondered if anyone knew of a module floppy that might have a working LSI ATA-RAID kernel module on it. I can't believe I'd really need to install Woody using bf2.4 and then upgrade just to get an ATA-RAID driver! Thanks, C.
Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Fr, den 16.01.2004 schrieb Francis Tyers um 16:15: We have a load of DL380s/DL360s here, any issues feel free to give me a mail... The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. Though I can confirm that the SmartArray 5 work like a charm with Debian Woody (using the cciss module) the ProLiant DL320 are IDE-Machines which don't have a SCSI controller but a IDE-RAID. I assume it's based on the Fasttrack chipset which works with Debian woody out-of-the-box too. You can access the array via /dev/ataraid/d0, the partitions will be called /dev/ataraid/d0pX. (Maybe worth mentioning: I recently had some problems with never revisions of the Fasttrack TX-2 chipset which doesn't seem to work with the modules in 2.4 kernels. Older controllers from the same series worked just fine, but newer one are not even detected by the kernel) Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
Am Fr, den 16.01.2004 schrieb Francis Tyers um 16:15: We have a load of DL380s/DL360s here, any issues feel free to give me a mail... The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. Though I can confirm that the SmartArray 5 work like a charm with Debian Woody (using the cciss module) the ProLiant DL320 are IDE-Machines which don't have a SCSI controller but a IDE-RAID. I assume it's based on the Fasttrack chipset which works with Debian woody out-of-the-box too. You can access the array via /dev/ataraid/d0, the partitions will be called /dev/ataraid/d0pX. (Maybe worth mentioning: I recently had some problems with never revisions of the Fasttrack TX-2 chipset which doesn't seem to work with the modules in 2.4 kernels. Older controllers from the same series worked just fine, but newer one are not even detected by the kernel) Having said that, the ProLiant ML330 come with an ATA-RAID which is based on an LSI chipset (MegaIDE) which is not supported by Debian - the only driver available is a half GNU, half closed-source driver. Furthermore the drives attached to those IDE-Ports are not accessible as normal IDE devices (i.e. /dev/hda) so you basically get a machine without any usable IDE interface except for one which is attached to the CD-ROM. If you buy one of these machines you'll either have to use a model with SCSI controller or install an extra IDE-controller. best regards, Markus -- Markus Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Unix and Network Administration Graz, AUSTRIA \ High Availability / Cluster Mobile: +43 676 6485415\ System Consulting Fax:+43 316 428896 \ Web Development
Re: debian on HP proliant
I am exposing another machine as http mirror, and am trying to secure it.
Done with iptables.
configured portsentry to auto-block portscans.
How to block TRACE in apache?
I believe you do it with rewriting rule like such, but does not work.
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
#security changes
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} ^TRACE
RewriteRule .* - [F]
/IfModule
How to restrict ALL product information?
I want to leak no webserver/os information, I've already configured:
ServerTokens ProductOnly
Anyone have a rule to restrict this via mod_rewrite or similar?
I have also been trying to prevent DOS attacks.
I used mod_throttle on the webserver but it had severe performance
problems. It just slowed the webserver down drastically.
What iptable rules or scripts, have you used to prevent DOS on the webserver?
I would be very interested in hearing how others do this.
For example last week I was being trawled by 20 bots from one of the
search engines. If I had an iptables throttle on simultaneous connections
or similar I would not have had problems.
6 weeks ago I had a user publish a movie file that maxed out my webserver
at 256 simultaneous connections and was using 40 megs of traffic a second.
This used up 2/3rds of our network bandwidth, and prevented anyone else
from viewing webpages on our webserver.
Our webserver kept working...joy joy.
Any ideas on how to prevent this particular DOS?
An scripts you use?
Thanks.
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Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 06:22:29PM -, Robert Page wrote: Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. I have three or four Proliant machines, both rack and tower ones, doing their work pretty well with Debian. The official Management Agents are provided by HP only as RPM packages, which you can probably alien(1)ize without problems; personally, I prefer to play with i2c and opensource tools. Thanks in advance. Robert Page .. and Jimmy Plant? :P -- Samuele Catusian -o) ,''`. http://bofh.minasithil.org//\ : :' : _\_V `. `' The weird attachment with this e-mail is my digital signature. `- For further informations please see gnupg.org . signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian on HP proliant
We have a load of DL380s/DL360s here, any issues feel free to give me a mail... The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... Fran On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 18:22, Robert Page wrote: Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Thanks in advance. Robert Page -- Francis Tyers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +353 (0) 91 75 41 34 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
Thanks for your help. Do you know much about the support that HP provides if a machine is running Debian. The people who are ordering the machine for us said that HP may not honour warranties is debian is installed on the machine. From Robert (sorry just Page) - Original Message - From: Samuele Catusian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: Re: debian on HP proliant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Cheers, Eric -- Eric Sproul nTelos OSS Engineering -- Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian on HP proliant
Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Thanks in advance. Robert Page
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thursday, Jan 15, 2004, at 11:22 America/Denver, Robert Page wrote: I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Theres two or three threads about the DL series stuff in the list archives... one big one from Google searching appears to be in March of last year. There was also this post in the last week or two on debian-user about a guy having trouble with Insight Manager on a DL360-G3: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200401/ msg04032.html -- Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
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configured portsentry to auto-block portscans.
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IfModule mod_rewrite.c
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RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} ^TRACE
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Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 06:22:29PM -, Robert Page wrote: Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. I have three or four Proliant machines, both rack and tower ones, doing their work pretty well with Debian. The official Management Agents are provided by HP only as RPM packages, which you can probably alien(1)ize without problems; personally, I prefer to play with i2c and opensource tools. Thanks in advance. Robert Page .. and Jimmy Plant? :P -- Samuele Catusian -o) ,''`. http://bofh.minasithil.org//\ : :' : _\_V `. `' The weird attachment with this e-mail is my digital signature. `- For further informations please see gnupg.org . signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian on HP proliant
We have a load of DL380s/DL360s here, any issues feel free to give me a mail... The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... Fran On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 18:22, Robert Page wrote: Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Thanks in advance. Robert Page -- Francis Tyers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +353 (0) 91 75 41 34
Re: debian on HP proliant
Thanks for your help. Do you know much about the support that HP provides if a machine is running Debian. The people who are ordering the machine for us said that HP may not honour warranties is debian is installed on the machine. From Robert (sorry just Page) - Original Message - From: Samuele Catusian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: Re: debian on HP proliant
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 10:15, Francis Tyers wrote: The onboard 'scsi' controller appears as a block device and not as a scsi device under linux. 01:03.0 RAID bus controller: Compaq Computer Corporation Smart Array 5i/532 (rev 01) i think it is... there is a driver in linux 2.4.x... The driver is called cciss, and supports the built in SmartArray controller as well as the higher-end optional RAID controllers like the 641/642. Look in /proc/driver/cciss/ccissX (where X is the controller number, usually '0' for the built-in) for some basic info. Devices attached to these controllers appear as /dev/cciss/cXdXpX c=controller # d=logical drive # p=partition # Thus the first partition on the first logical drive on the built-in controller is /dev/cciss/c0d0p1. Cheers, Eric -- Eric Sproul nTelos OSS Engineering -- Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before.
debian on HP proliant
Hi All, I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Thanks in advance. Robert Page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian on HP proliant
On Thursday, Jan 15, 2004, at 11:22 America/Denver, Robert Page wrote: I am going to be installing debian linux on a hp proliant machine (probably a DL320), does anyone know of any issues that may need to be noted before the install such as compatibility or any experiences that might help my install. Theres two or three threads about the DL series stuff in the list archives... one big one from Google searching appears to be in March of last year. There was also this post in the last week or two on debian-user about a guy having trouble with Insight Manager on a DL360-G3: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200401/ msg04032.html -- Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
