Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
If I understand correctly, you have experience with IlohaMail... I've just installed it, and tested it using the (default) FS backend which worked fine. But then I carefully reconfigured to use a MySQL backend, which the DB setup seems to have gone fine, however I can no longer login using the same user. I get "Connection failed: Invalid password". As far as I can tell, it's not a problem with the IlohaMail user I setup to access the MySQL DB, since I can see an entry in the DB with the user I'm trying to login as. Any ideas? I didn't make any drastic config changes, just the obvious necessary settings to access the DB. Thanks! Robert - Original Message - From: "W.D.McKinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:47 AM Subject: Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 21:31 +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:46:57PM +, David Reynolds wrote: > > Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at > the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being > Russian > Speaking myself I can't tell how well it handles it, but it looks > Russian to me :) > > www.ilohamail.org > Thank you, I'll look into it. We are testing this one. http://www.mintersoft.com/beta5.shtml Dee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 10:23:53AM +0100, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > > russian text. > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. I'm not sure which RFC says that at least Subject (but also From, To and may be others) headers can contain non-ascii text (properly encoded). -- Timur Irmatov, System administrator, Sarkor-Telecom Co. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > > On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > > > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. > > > > Headers can contain any charset they wish, as long as they are encoded > > properly. > > Thanks for correcting me. RFC2047 describes how to encode message > headers. I thought that MIME would work only for message bodies. And, if you can get away with it, you should be rejecting at the MTA any message with 8-bit characters in any header. Since I cannot get away with that, I reject any with more than about 8 characters that are not ASCII. This cleans up an amazing amount of trash, but still lets through broken messages in the local language (Brazilian Portuguese). So far, the filter didn't cause any customer to get pissed off. It has been active for 2 years now. Probably all my CJK and Russian customers use proper email software, or something... there are not many, and the other 99% appreciates the reduction in spam levels. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: > On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. > > Headers can contain any charset they wish, as long as they are encoded > properly. Thanks for correcting me. RFC2047 describes how to encode message headers. I thought that MIME would work only for message bodies. -- Lost Oasis http://lost-oasis.fr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist? (Test: äöüÄÖÜ)
On Thursday 18 November 2004 10.23, Bertrand Yvain wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > > russian text. > > FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone > wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. Headers can contain any charset they wish, as long as they are encoded properly. See the subject of this email for an example. -- vbi -- TODO: apt-get install signify -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
Hi, On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:19:36PM +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing > russian text. FYI, headers must be in plain ASCII (RFC822). But I agree that everyone wants to have a subject in the same language as the body. -- Lost Oasis http://lost-oasis.fr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 21:31 +0500, Timur Irmatov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:46:57PM +, David Reynolds wrote: > > > > Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at > > the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being Russian > > Speaking myself I can't tell how well it handles it, but it looks > > Russian to me :) > > > > www.ilohamail.org > > > > Thank you, I'll look into it. > > We are testing this one. http://www.mintersoft.com/beta5.shtml Dee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 01:46:57PM +, David Reynolds wrote: > > Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at > the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being Russian > Speaking myself I can't tell how well it handles it, but it looks > Russian to me :) > > www.ilohamail.org > Thank you, I'll look into it. -- Timur Irmatov, System administrator, Sarkor-Telecom Co. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 06:36:54PM +0300, Max Kosmach wrote: > >Then I tried IMP. It cannot properly display messages in utf-8 > >charset. > IMP from testing/unstable work with utf-8 well, works but with some flaws. I have installed 1.5.0 development version, it allows me to reply to emails containing russian text but it seems to miscalculate lengths of lines with russian text and because of it those lines are wrapped too often than necessary. may be it is fixed in CVS, don't know. -- Timur Irmatov, System administrator, Sarkor-Telecom Co. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
Timur Irmatov wrote: Hi! Then I tried IMP. It cannot properly display messages in utf-8 charset. IMP from testing/unstable work with utf-8 -- With Best Wishes Max CCSA,CCSE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: decent webmail software - does it exist?
Timur Irmatov wrote: == SNIP == I am russian-speaking person, and thus main requirement for webmail software is complete and robust support of russian language - both in interface and emails. Try IlohaMail. It is robust and fast and also multilingual. Looking at the demo on their site. It appears to support Russian. Not being Russian Speaking myself I can't tell how well it handles it, but it looks Russian to me :) www.ilohamail.org Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing russian text. I've used OpenWebMail, squirrel mail and NOCC all of which I've found to be lacking in comparison to Iloha! Hope that helps. Cheers Dave -- David Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
decent webmail software - does it exist?
Hi! As it is said on site of Mutt: "all mail clients suck. this one just sucks less." Now I can add to this statement that all webmail programs suck, and unfortunately I can't find the one that sucks less. :) I am russian-speaking person, and thus main requirement for webmail software is complete and robust support of russian language - both in interface and emails. I tried SquirrelMail. At first look it seems to be pretty good. But then I noticed that I can't properly reply to messages containing russian text if message is encoded in any encoding other than utf-8. Developers of SquirrelMail say that current version does not support charset encoding in reply/forward. Then I tried IMP. It cannot properly display messages in utf-8 charset. Then it was OpenWebMail. It has problems with Subjects containing russian text. Does anybody has positive experience with any webmail software with respect to i18n? -- Timur Irmatov, System administrator, Sarkor-Telecom Co. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
