Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-03 Thread Patrick Hsieh
OK. It will be easy if Linux use md5 password. But, if my Linux does not
use md5 and is about to migrate to md5 for easier account migration, how
can I do in Debian 2.2r4?

Thanks.
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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-03 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:

> If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
> the account/password?

> > > How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> > > I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> > > Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> > > account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> > > in mind?

If your original passwords are in MD5, but you don't want to use MD5 then
you are out of luck. (Unless you want to waste a lot of time running some
password crackers.)

In addition, the BSD master.passwd file is a different format than the
Linux shadow + passwd file. You will need to convert this over. Look at
the relevant manual pages.

If you really don't want to use MD5 for your shadow file, then you can
write some login/pop3d/whatever code that grabs the plain-text password
(compares the MD5) and then regenerates a new hash.

(For your information, I have moved BSD master.passwd files to Linux a few
times. And also from Linux to BSD.)

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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-03 Thread Patrick Hsieh

OK. It will be easy if Linux use md5 password. But, if my Linux does not
use md5 and is about to migrate to md5 for easier account migration, how
can I do in Debian 2.2r4?

Thanks.
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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-03 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:

> If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
> the account/password?

> > > How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> > > I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> > > Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> > > account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> > > in mind?

If your original passwords are in MD5, but you don't want to use MD5 then
you are out of luck. (Unless you want to waste a lot of time running some
password crackers.)

In addition, the BSD master.passwd file is a different format than the
Linux shadow + passwd file. You will need to convert this over. Look at
the relevant manual pages.

If you really don't want to use MD5 for your shadow file, then you can
write some login/pop3d/whatever code that grabs the plain-text password
(compares the MD5) and then regenerates a new hash.

(For your information, I have moved BSD master.passwd files to Linux a few
times. And also from Linux to BSD.)

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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-02 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:42:10PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
> the account/password?

Actually... I'm wanting to do the oposite... I want to migrate from crypt
shadow passwords to md5sum passwords in LDAP.

Any hints on the best way to do this?

I'm thinking I could have some fancy PAM setup that accepts crypt and md5sum
passwords, and updates from crypt to md5sum whenever someone changes their
passwd. Alternatively I could use some crypt-then-md5sum wierd thing where
the passwds are crypted then md5sumed... this would make it md5sum secure
strait away without having to wait for people to change their passwd to
update it.

I'm only just thinking about it at this stage, but are there any traps with
LDAP and shadow stuff?


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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-02 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello,

If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
the account/password?

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> >
> > My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
> > A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:
> >
> > How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> > I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> > Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> > account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> > in mind?
> 
> During Debian installation you are given the choice to use MD5 passwords
> or not.
> 
> Brian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination
> is out of focus." -- Mark Twain

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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-02 Thread Donovan Baarda

On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 05:42:10PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
> the account/password?

Actually... I'm wanting to do the oposite... I want to migrate from crypt
shadow passwords to md5sum passwords in LDAP.

Any hints on the best way to do this?

I'm thinking I could have some fancy PAM setup that accepts crypt and md5sum
passwords, and updates from crypt to md5sum whenever someone changes their
passwd. Alternatively I could use some crypt-then-md5sum wierd thing where
the passwds are crypted then md5sumed... this would make it md5sum secure
strait away without having to wait for people to change their passwd to
update it.

I'm only just thinking about it at this stage, but are there any traps with
LDAP and shadow stuff?


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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-02 Thread Patrick Hsieh

Hello,

If I don't want to use MD5 in my linux box, is it possible to migrate
the account/password?

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> >
> > My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
> > A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:
> >
> > How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> > I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> > Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> > account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> > in mind?
> 
> During Debian installation you are given the choice to use MD5 passwords
> or not.
> 
> Brian
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination
> is out of focus." -- Mark Twain

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Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-01 Thread B.C.J.O
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
> A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:
>
> How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> in mind?

During Debian installation you are given the choice to use MD5 passwords
or not.

Brian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination
is out of focus."   -- Mark Twain




migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-01 Thread Patrick Hsieh
Hello list,

My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:

How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
in mind?

Thanks.
-- 
Patrick Hsieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Re: migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-01 Thread B.C.J.O

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Patrick Hsieh wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
> A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:
>
> How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
> I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
> Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
> account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
> in mind?

During Debian installation you are given the choice to use MD5 passwords
or not.

Brian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination
is out of focus."   -- Mark Twain


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migration from FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4

2001-12-01 Thread Patrick Hsieh

Hello list,

My company has a plan to migrate a FreeBSD 4.4 to Debian 2.2r4.
A couple of minutes of downtime is acceptable, but my core problem is:

How can I transfer the account/password from FreeBSD to Debian?
I may be wrong, but I remember FreeBSD uses MD5 passwd encryption while
Debian default does not. In this case, how can I migrate the
account/password from FreeBSD to Linux? Is there any thing I should keep
in mind?

Thanks.
-- 
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