Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-18 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 17 Jun 2003 at 22:02, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that
> > denies ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and
> > normally it monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that
> > would tell me if this router on the way to a server is reachable. I
> > want to test the whole path to see where an error occured. Well, is
> > it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? What would you do
> > to achive this?
> 
> Pinging a machine that is beyond the router should be a strong
> indication that the router is still functioning.  ;)

Well but you don't know if the machine behind is "dead" :-) I need to 
ping the last router in front of a machine. So incase the machine 
fails I can see if the backbone-router is still alive.




Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-18 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 17 Jun 2003 at 22:02, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that
> > denies ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and
> > normally it monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that
> > would tell me if this router on the way to a server is reachable. I
> > want to test the whole path to see where an error occured. Well, is
> > it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? What would you do
> > to achive this?
> 
> Pinging a machine that is beyond the router should be a strong
> indication that the router is still functioning.  ;)

Well but you don't know if the machine behind is "dead" :-) I need to 
ping the last router in front of a machine. So incase the machine 
fails I can see if the backbone-router is still alive.


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RE: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
hi just a small draft to start if you have web server installed :)
#!/usr/bin/perl

#

my $host="http://www.myhost.net";;
my $gsm='12343';
my $emaildomain='partner-site.com';
my $emailbox='emergency';
my $gsm_carrier='your_mobile_suffix.com';

#
use LWP::Simple;
if(!head($host)){
$gsm_email = $gsm.'@'.$gsm_carrier;
$to_email=$emailbox.'@'.$emaildomain;
$from_email='guard@'.$emaildomain;
open   MAIL, "| /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i" or die "Can't init sendmail : $!";
print  MAIL "To: $gsm_email\n";
print  MAIL "From: $from_email\n";
print  MAIL "Subject: Website Failure. Host: $host!\n";
print  MAIL "Could NOT connect to $host\n";
close  MAIL;
open   MAIL, "| /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i" or die "Can't init sendmail : $!";
print  MAIL "To: $to_email\n";
print  MAIL "From: $from_email\n";
print  MAIL "Subject: Website Failure. Host: $host!\n";
print  MAIL "Could NOT connect to $host\n";
close  MAIL;
}

Kind regards,

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> -Original Message-
> From: Rico -mc- Gloeckner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:01 PM
> To: Stefan Neufeind
> Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org; Russell Coker
> Subject: Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if
> this router on
> > the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path
> to see where an
> > error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate"
> traceroute-like packets? What
> > would you do to achive this?
>
> write a small perl script which execs traceroute and parses traceroute
> data.
>
> shouldnt be too hard.
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RE: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev
hi just a small draft to start if you have web server installed :)
#!/usr/bin/perl

#

my $host="http://www.myhost.net";;
my $gsm='12343';
my $emaildomain='partner-site.com';
my $emailbox='emergency';
my $gsm_carrier='your_mobile_suffix.com';

#
use LWP::Simple;
if(!head($host)){
$gsm_email = $gsm.'@'.$gsm_carrier;
$to_email=$emailbox.'@'.$emaildomain;
$from_email='guard@'.$emaildomain;
open   MAIL, "| /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i" or die "Can't init sendmail : $!";
print  MAIL "To: $gsm_email\n";
print  MAIL "From: $from_email\n";
print  MAIL "Subject: Website Failure. Host: $host!\n";
print  MAIL "Could NOT connect to $host\n";
close  MAIL;
open   MAIL, "| /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i" or die "Can't init sendmail : $!";
print  MAIL "To: $to_email\n";
print  MAIL "From: $from_email\n";
print  MAIL "Subject: Website Failure. Host: $host!\n";
print  MAIL "Could NOT connect to $host\n";
close  MAIL;
}

Kind regards,

Peter Zyumbilev

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BIVOL BULGARIA
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> -----Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:01 PM
> To: Stefan Neufeind
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Russell Coker
> Subject: Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if
> this router on
> > the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path
> to see where an
> > error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate"
> traceroute-like packets? What
> > would you do to achive this?
>
> write a small perl script which execs traceroute and parses traceroute
> data.
>
> shouldnt be too hard.
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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on 
> the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where 
> an 
> error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? 
> What 
> would you do to achive this?

write a small perl script which execs traceroute and parses traceroute
data. 

shouldnt be too hard.
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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies
> ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it
> monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this
> router on the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path
> to see where an error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate"
> traceroute-like packets? What would you do to achive this?

Pinging a machine that is beyond the router should be a strong indication that 
the router is still functioning.  ;)

If you want to specifically ping it then lft may do the job, set it to a 
minimum ttl that matches the router.  It doesn't seem possible to specify a 
maximum count however.

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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 10:15:49, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of
> > ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem?
> 
> Your message was not clear, but it seems that you can see the router on a 
> traceroute but can't ping it.
> 
> Ping sends ICMP-ECHO packets and solicits a direct response.  traceroute
> sends 
> an ICMP-ECHO or a UDP packet destined for some machine beyond the router and
> 
> the router sends back an ICMP time-exceeded if it's hop count has expired.  
> Configuring a router to not respond to any packets addressed to itself is not
> 
> uncommon, but having it send ICMP messages about packets addressed to other 
> machines that it can't deliver is expected.
> 
> For this reason it's not uncommon to see traceroute show 10.x.x.x or 
> 192.168.x.x addresses (which are obviously not pingable).
> 
> I'm not sure how the Windows program tracert compares in functionality to 
> traceroute.

What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies ping-
packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it monitors 
hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on 
the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where an 
error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? What 
would you do to achive this?

 Stefan




Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:27:16PM +0200, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on 
> the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where an 
> error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? What 
> would you do to achive this?

write a small perl script which execs traceroute and parses traceroute
data. 

shouldnt be too hard.
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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies
> ping- packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it
> monitors hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this
> router on the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path
> to see where an error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate"
> traceroute-like packets? What would you do to achive this?

Pinging a machine that is beyond the router should be a strong indication that 
the router is still functioning.  ;)

If you want to specifically ping it then lft may do the job, set it to a 
minimum ttl that matches the router.  It doesn't seem possible to specify a 
maximum count however.

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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 10:15:49, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> > both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of
> > ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem?
> 
> Your message was not clear, but it seems that you can see the router on a 
> traceroute but can't ping it.
> 
> Ping sends ICMP-ECHO packets and solicits a direct response.  traceroute
> sends 
> an ICMP-ECHO or a UDP packet destined for some machine beyond the router and
> 
> the router sends back an ICMP time-exceeded if it's hop count has expired.  
> Configuring a router to not respond to any packets addressed to itself is not
> 
> uncommon, but having it send ICMP messages about packets addressed to other 
> machines that it can't deliver is expected.
> 
> For this reason it's not uncommon to see traceroute show 10.x.x.x or 
> 192.168.x.x addresses (which are obviously not pingable).
> 
> I'm not sure how the Windows program tracert compares in functionality to 
> traceroute.

What I'm looking for is a possibility to see if this router (that denies ping-
packets) is still available? I have Nagios running and normally it monitors 
hosts via ping. So I need a replacement that would tell me if this router on 
the way to a server is reachable. I want to test the whole path to see where an 
error occured. Well, is it possible to "simulate" traceroute-like packets? What 
would you do to achive this?

 Stefan


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Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of
> ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem?

Your message was not clear, but it seems that you can see the router on a 
traceroute but can't ping it.

Ping sends ICMP-ECHO packets and solicits a direct response.  traceroute sends 
an ICMP-ECHO or a UDP packet destined for some machine beyond the router and 
the router sends back an ICMP time-exceeded if it's hop count has expired.  
Configuring a router to not respond to any packets addressed to itself is not 
uncommon, but having it send ICMP messages about packets addressed to other 
machines that it can't deliver is expected.

For this reason it's not uncommon to see traceroute show 10.x.x.x or 
192.168.x.x addresses (which are obviously not pingable).

I'm not sure how the Windows program tracert compares in functionality to 
traceroute.

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Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi,

both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of 
ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? 
I need to check if the route to this router is alive - namely if the 
router is up. Can I trick this into working by choosing a TOS for 
ping manually?

  Stefan




Re: Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:05, Stefan Neufeind wrote:
> both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of
> ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem?

Your message was not clear, but it seems that you can see the router on a 
traceroute but can't ping it.

Ping sends ICMP-ECHO packets and solicits a direct response.  traceroute sends 
an ICMP-ECHO or a UDP packet destined for some machine beyond the router and 
the router sends back an ICMP time-exceeded if it's hop count has expired.  
Configuring a router to not respond to any packets addressed to itself is not 
uncommon, but having it send ICMP messages about packets addressed to other 
machines that it can't deliver is expected.

For this reason it's not uncommon to see traceroute show 10.x.x.x or 
192.168.x.x addresses (which are obviously not pingable).

I'm not sure how the Windows program tracert compares in functionality to 
traceroute.

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Router appears in tracert but can't ping?

2003-06-16 Thread Stefan Neufeind
Hi,

both tracert and ping use ICMP. So did they just block some kind of 
ICMP-message (ping) for this router? How could I solve this problem? 
I need to check if the route to this router is alive - namely if the 
router is up. Can I trick this into working by choosing a TOS for 
ping manually?

  Stefan


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Re: Ping message

2001-08-09 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 11:12:11AM -0700, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> 
> > If you are really doing professional services then you should know how
> > to tell your mailer to only send a mail to the list or either insert an
> > appropriate comment telling me, that you also send me a unnessary copy
> > to my private address. 
> 
> This is always a person-by-person opinion. Some people don't want copies
> (because they assume that others know that they always read the list in a 
> timely matter), some want copies (to make sure they read it), some want
> comments that tell them that it is also copied ... Since I now know your
> preference, I'll try to remember.

For all debian lists, the convention is "reply to the list only unless
the poster requests otherwise".  It's somewhere on www.debian.org ...

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-09 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:

> If you are really doing professional services then you should know how
> to tell your mailer to only send a mail to the list or either insert an
> appropriate comment telling me, that you also send me a unnessary copy
> to my private address. 

This is always a person-by-person opinion. Some people don't want copies
(because they assume that others know that they always read the list in a 
timely matter), some want copies (to make sure they read it), some want
comments that tell them that it is also copied ... Since I now know your
preference, I'll try to remember.

> I don't know which source you are looking at, but I'm looking at the
> source for iputils from ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/. If you look
> there at the functions pr_pack and main you'll notice that pr_pack is
> called with a variable containing the received_time which is as far as I
> understand calculated from the time (gettimeofday). And this time value

I may have been looking at different code. If I recall correctly it only
used gettimeofday() if it was using the old behaviour (as mentioned in the
manual page).

I was looking at iputils_20001110.orig.tar.gz as downloaded from debian's
site.  The manual page contains "iputils-ss990107".

> > I believe -U uses different functionality (old feature) and
> > bypasses this problem.
> 
> -U does what? The version of ping that I use here doesn't know about
> that switch.

As mentioned in another email by Fernando, his ping does have that
feature. I guess you are using a different ping. (And my ping doesn't have
that feature either.)

 -U  Print true user-to-user latency (the old behaviour).

I don't use that ping. I have came across well over 20 messages about this
problem. Some of these messages indicated the upgrading to a newer kernel,
or using "-U", or using an older ping fixed their problem.

Feel free to ask the developer pekkas @ netcore.fi what he means by
"SIOCGSTAMP/SO_TIMESTAMP are sensitive to bug in kernel" and if this
applies to this.

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-09 Thread Christian Kurz

If you are really doing professional services then you should know how
to tell your mailer to only send a mail to the list or either insert an
appropriate comment telling me, that you also send me a unnessary copy
to my private address. 

On 01-08-08 Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > > > Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.

> > > I believe your ping command is using features only available in a newer
> > > kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has a -U
> > > switch to ignore this.

> > What should a feature of a kernel has to do with a message from ping
> > complaining about problems with the time measurement? 

> > I don't understand the source of ping completely, but I would say that
> > this message is a hint to a problem with the clock. This message is

> I am pretty sure it is not the return value form gettimeofday() -- it is
> the information returned via ioctl() for a SIOCGSTAM (receive timestamp of
> the last packet passed to the user) or SO_TIMESTAMP request (timestamp of
> incoming datagrams).

I don't know which source you are looking at, but I'm looking at the
source for iputils from ftp://ftp.inr.ac.ru/ip-routing/. If you look
there at the functions pr_pack and main you'll notice that pr_pack is
called with a variable containing the received_time which is as far as I
understand calculated from the time (gettimeofday). And this time value
is then used inside pr_pack to calculate the exact time for the trip. So
only when the triptime will be less then 0, ping will print the message
about the timining going back. If you are not agreeing with this, then
please tell us, which source code you are looking at and give some hints
to the code like I did now.

> I believe -U uses different functionality (old feature) and
> bypasses this problem.

-U does what? The version of ping that I use here doesn't know about
that switch.

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Fernando Casas wrote:

> If I use the -U argument, then the message is gone.
> 
> And there are no error (or like error) messages.
> 
> any ideas?

Try upgrading your kernel (like I mentioned in a previous mail) or try
downgrading your ping.

> > > > > Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.
> > >
> > > > I believe your ping command is using features only available in a
> newer
> > > > kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has
> a -U
> > > > switch to ignore this.
> > >
> > > What should a feature of a kernel has to do with a message from ping
> > > complaining about problems with the time measurement?
> > >
> > > I don't understand the source of ping completely, but I would say
> that
> > > this message is a hint to a problem with the clock. This message is
> >
> >I am pretty sure it is not the return value form gettimeofday() -- it is
> >the information returned via ioctl() for a SIOCGSTAM (receive timestamp
> of
> >the last packet passed to the user) or SO_TIMESTAMP request (timestamp
> of
> >incoming datagrams).
> >
> >I believe -U uses different functionality (old feature) and
> >bypasses this problem.
> >
> >From looking at postings on the web, it appears to be a kernel bug.
> >
> >Some info at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37485

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Fernando Casas

If I use the -U argument, then the message is gone.
And there are no error (or like error) messages.
any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

>From: "Jeremy C. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: DEBIAN-ISP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Ping message 
>Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) 
> 
>On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Christian Kurz wrote: 
> 
> > > > Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures. 
> > 
> > > I believe your ping command is using features only available in a newer 
> > > kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has a -U 
> > > switch to ignore this. 
> > 
> > What should a feature of a kernel has to do with a message from ping 
> > complaining about problems with the time measurement? 
> > 
> > I don't understand the source of ping completely, but I would say that 
> > this message is a hint to a problem with the clock. This message is 
> 
>I am pretty sure it is not the return value form gettimeofday() -- it is 
>the information returned via ioctl() for a SIOCGSTAM (receive timestamp of 
>the last packet passed to the user) or SO_TIMESTAMP request (timestamp of 
>incoming datagrams). 
> 
>I believe -U uses different functionality (old feature) and 
>bypasses this problem. 
> 
>From looking at postings on the web, it appears to be a kernel bug. 
> 
>Some info at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37485 
> 
> Jeremy C. Reed 
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Re: Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Christian Kurz wrote:

> > > Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.
>  
> > I believe your ping command is using features only available in a newer
> > kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has a -U
> > switch to ignore this.
> 
> What should a feature of a kernel has to do with a message from ping
> complaining about problems with the time measurement? 
>
> I don't understand the source of ping completely, but I would say that
> this message is a hint to a problem with the clock. This message is

I am pretty sure it is not the return value form gettimeofday() -- it is
the information returned via ioctl() for a SIOCGSTAM (receive timestamp of
the last packet passed to the user) or SO_TIMESTAMP request (timestamp of
incoming datagrams).

I believe -U uses different functionality (old feature) and
bypasses this problem.

>From looking at postings on the web, it appears to be a kernel bug.

Some info at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=37485

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Christian Kurz

On 01-08-08 Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Fernando Casas wrote:
> > I´m getting this message every time i ping a machine on the LAN. And
> > just on the LAN.
 
> > Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.
 
> I believe your ping command is using features only available in a newer
> kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has a -U
> switch to ignore this.

What should a feature of a kernel has to do with a message from ping
complaining about problems with the time measurement? 

I don't understand the source of ping completely, but I would say that
this message is a hint to a problem with the clock. This message is
exactly then printed then the time that ping calculated for the trip of
an icmp package is less then 0, which means, that there's something
screwed on the box.

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Re: Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Fernando Casas wrote:

> I´m getting this message every time i ping a machine on the LAN. And
> just on the LAN.
> 
> Warning: time of day goes back, taking countermeasures.

I believe your ping command is using features only available in a newer
kernel. Maybe upgrade your kernel (2.4.4?) or see if your ping has a -U
switch to ignore this.

Which ping?

iputils-ping? (I think it is iputils, because of this message.)
netkit-ping?

What version?


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Ping message

2001-08-08 Thread Fernando Casas



I´m getting this message every time i ping a 
machine on the LAN. And just on the LAN.
 
Warning: time of day goes back, taking 
countermeasures.
 
Any ideas
Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-04 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Wagner wrote:

> I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

It's sad and (sometimes) funny, that I have to work with those people ;)
We are just changing our admin. He was a real mistake :| 

Now it's all funny for me, but It costed me time, lots of time... 

> >It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> > Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
> >it.
> > Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> > It's a miracle it was working all together...


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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-04 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Chris Wagner wrote:

> I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

It's sad and (sometimes) funny, that I have to work with those people ;)
We are just changing our admin. He was a real mistake :| 

Now it's all funny for me, but It costed me time, lots of time... 

> >It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> > Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
> >it.
> > Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> > It's a miracle it was working all together...


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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Chris Wagner
I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
>> > 
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
>> > Segmentation fault
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>> 
>> some possible causes:
>> 
>> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
>> 
>> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
>> not work)
>> 
>> 3. other bad hardware
>> 
>> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
>> 
>
>It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
>it.
> Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> It's a miracle it was working all together...
>
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Chris Wagner

I'm sorry, but ROFLMAO!!!

At 05:18 PM 6/3/01 +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
>> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
>> > 
>> > czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
>> > Segmentation fault
>> > czajnik@earth:~$
>> 
>> some possible causes:
>> 
>> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
>> 
>> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
>> not work)
>> 
>> 3. other bad hardware
>> 
>> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
>> 
>
>It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
> Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
>it.
> Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
> It's a miracle it was working all together...
>
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
> > Segmentation fault
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> some possible causes:
> 
> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
> 
> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
> not work)
> 
> 3. other bad hardware
> 
> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
> 

It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
 Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
it.
 Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
 It's a miracle it was working all together...

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-03 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> > 
> > czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
> > Segmentation fault
> > czajnik@earth:~$
> 
> some possible causes:
> 
> 1. bad memory  - most likely.
> 
> 2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
> not work)
> 
> 3. other bad hardware
> 
> 4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.
> 

It' solved, there were 2 reasons.
 Core dumps - hmmm, our admin borken the kernel by incorrectly patching
it.
 Ping times - some stupid guy inserted two different CPUs PII 400 and 450. 
 It's a miracle it was working all together...

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
> Segmentation fault
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

some possible causes:

1. bad memory  - most likely.

2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
not work)

3. other bad hardware

4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-02 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > 
> > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> 
> ?!? What do U mean ?

he means you need to give your pigeons some time to rest between packets.

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-02 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:54PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:
> 
> czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
> Segmentation fault
> czajnik@earth:~$

some possible causes:

1. bad memory  - most likely.

2. bad swap partition (or bad disk controller causing the swap partition to
not work)

3. other bad hardware

4. bad libc6 or other library - not very likely.

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-06-02 Thread Craig Sanders

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > 
> > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> 
> ?!? What do U mean ?

he means you need to give your pigeons some time to rest between packets.

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Wed, 30 May 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > > 
> > > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> > 
> > ?!? What do U mean ?
> 
> It was a joke ... rfc 1149 is IP over avian carriers (birds)

Ooooh, yeah, I didn't remember the rfc number, but I know this protocol
: It's nice :)

Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more /proc/misc
Segmentation fault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > 
> > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> 
> ?!? What do U mean ?

It was a joke ... rfc 1149 is IP over avian carriers (birds)

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> 
> http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt

?!? What do U mean ?
isn't the ping time measured by storing system time the ICMP ECHO was
sent, and comparng it to the system time the reply arrived ?

I get it even when pinging my Cisco 1601 router, which is connected
directly (I don't care 3com SSII 1100 now)

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> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:24:39PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > 
> > Look at this:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
> > PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
> > ^^^
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms
> > 
> > What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...
> > 
> > We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
> > the reason ? Overall stability is good...
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread horape
Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?

http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt


On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:24:39PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> 
> Look at this:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
> PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
>   ^^^
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms
> 
> What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...
> 
> We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
> the reason ? Overall stability is good...
> 
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Wed, 30 May 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > > 
> > > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> > 
> > ?!? What do U mean ?
> 
> It was a joke ... rfc 1149 is IP over avian carriers (birds)

Ooooh, yeah, I didn't remember the rfc number, but I know this protocol
: It's nice :)

Anyway, my problem seems to be hardware:

czajnik@earth:~$ more /proc/misc
Segmentation fault
czajnik@earth:~$

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Nathan E Norman

On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:47:38PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> > 
> > http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt
> 
> ?!? What do U mean ?

It was a joke ... rfc 1149 is IP over avian carriers (birds)

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Wed, 30 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?
> 
> http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt

?!? What do U mean ?
isn't the ping time measured by storing system time the ICMP ECHO was
sent, and comparng it to the system time the reply arrived ?

I get it even when pinging my Cisco 1601 router, which is connected
directly (I don't care 3com SSII 1100 now)

-=Czaj-nick=-

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:24:39PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> > 
> > Look at this:
> > 
> > czajnik@earth:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
> > PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
> > ^^^
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
> > 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms
> > 
> > What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...
> > 
> > We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
> > the reason ? Overall stability is good...
> > 
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


On Wed, 30 May 2001, Ken Seefried wrote:

> 
> I think that you can get this if you have an MP kernel compiled without 
> "Enhanced Real Time Clock" support.  The default clock driver apparently 
> isn't MP-safe. 

Thx, I'll check it tomorrow :).





Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread horape

Aren't you traveling several rfc1149 links?

http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt


On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:24:39PM +0200, Przemyslaw Wegrzyn wrote:
> 
> Look at this:
> 
> czajnik@earth:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
> PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
>   ^^^
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms
> 
> What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...
> 
> We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
> the reason ? Overall stability is good...
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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Ken Seefried
I think that you can get this if you have an MP kernel compiled without 
"Enhanced Real Time Clock" support.  The default clock driver apparently 
isn't MP-safe. 

Ken Seefried, CISSP 

Przemyslaw Wegrzyn writes: 

Look at this: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
		^^^
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms 

What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds... 

We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
the reason ? Overall stability is good... 

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Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn



On Wed, 30 May 2001, Ken Seefried wrote:

> 
> I think that you can get this if you have an MP kernel compiled without 
> "Enhanced Real Time Clock" support.  The default clock driver apparently 
> isn't MP-safe. 

Thx, I'll check it tomorrow :).



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Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn

Look at this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
^^^
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms

What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...

We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
the reason ? Overall stability is good...

-=Czaj-nick=-





Re: Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Ken Seefried


I think that you can get this if you have an MP kernel compiled without 
"Enhanced Real Time Clock" support.  The default clock driver apparently 
isn't MP-safe. 

Ken Seefried, CISSP 

Przemyslaw Wegrzyn writes: 

> 
> Look at this: 
> 
> czajnik@earth:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
> PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
>   ^^^
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms 
> 
> What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds... 
> 
> We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
> the reason ? Overall stability is good... 
> 
> -=Czaj-nick=- 
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Ping - what the hell ?

2001-05-30 Thread Przemyslaw Wegrzyn


Look at this:

czajnik@earth:~$ ping 156.17.209.1
PING 156.17.209.1 (156.17.209.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=5427.7 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=23.2 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=429492829.5 ms
^^^
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=247 time=429492907.1 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=247 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 156.17.209.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=247 time=21.4 ms

What the hell can it be ?!? Every ping comes back in few milisecounds...

We've recently added second CPU to this machine, can it (failed CPU) be
the reason ? Overall stability is good...

-=Czaj-nick=-



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RE: ping

2000-09-22 Thread Martin WHEELER
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> /sbin/ipchains -I imput -p icmp -l
 ^

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

> > /sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l
   ^
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RE: ping

2000-09-22 Thread Martin WHEELER

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> /sbin/ipchains -I imput -p icmp -l
 ^

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

> > /sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l
   ^
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Re: ping

2000-09-22 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 at 21:46:01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello All,
> Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
> wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
> particular)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> D. Ghost
> 

Package: ippl

IP protocols logger

   ippl is a configurable IP protocols logger. It currently logs incoming
   ICMP messages, TCP connections and UDP datagrams. It is configured
   with Apache-like rules and has a built-in DNS cache.

http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/ippl.html

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Re: ping

2000-09-22 Thread Tomasz Papszun

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 at 21:46:01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello All,
> Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
> wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
> particular)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> D. Ghost
> 

Package: ippl

IP protocols logger

   ippl is a configurable IP protocols logger. It currently logs incoming
   ICMP messages, TCP connections and UDP datagrams. It is configured
   with Apache-like rules and has a built-in DNS cache.

http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/net/ippl.html

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RE: ping

2000-09-21 Thread debian-isp
/sbin/ipchains -I imput -p icmp -l
ipchains: Protocol not available

Is that a kernel option or a package?
I am not familiar with ipchains.

Thanks for the reply!

D Ghost

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

> Sure, just use ipchains:
> 
> /sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l
> 
> -jg
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> 
> Hello All,
> Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
> wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
> particular)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> D. Ghost
> 
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RE: ping

2000-09-21 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
Sure, just use ipchains:

/sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l

-jg

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Sent:   Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:46 PM
To: debian-isp
Subject:    ping

Hello All,
Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
particular)

Thanks,

D. Ghost


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ping

2000-09-21 Thread debian-isp
Hello All,
Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
particular)

Thanks,

D. Ghost




RE: ping

2000-09-21 Thread debian-isp

/sbin/ipchains -I imput -p icmp -l
ipchains: Protocol not available

Is that a kernel option or a package?
I am not familiar with ipchains.

Thanks for the reply!

D Ghost

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

> Sure, just use ipchains:
> 
> /sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l
> 
> -jg
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To:   debian-isp
> Subject:  ping
> 
> Hello All,
> Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
> wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
> particular)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> D. Ghost
> 
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RE: ping

2000-09-21 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis

Sure, just use ipchains:

/sbin/ipchains -I input -p icmp -l

-jg

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To: debian-isp
Subject:    ping

Hello All,
Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
particular)

Thanks,

D. Ghost


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ping

2000-09-21 Thread debian-isp

Hello All,
Is there a way to log incoming ICMP requests? What would have to be
wrapped in order to basically log all requests of the machine (pings in
particular)

Thanks,

D. Ghost


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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-14 Thread Art Sackett
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:39:41PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:13:07PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> > Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a 
> > box after a few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about 
> > those kinds of things.
> 
> Are these things just malformed packets / frames sent to some machine 
> or what?
> I think versions of WinDos are vulnerable.

http://www.insecure.org/sploits/ping-o-death.html

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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-14 Thread Sven Burgener
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:13:07PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a 
> box after a few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about 
> those kinds of things.

Are these things just malformed packets / frames sent to some machine 
or what?
I think versions of WinDos are vulnerable.

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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-14 Thread Art Sackett

On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:39:41PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:13:07PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> > Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a 
> > box after a few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about 
> > those kinds of things.
> 
> Are these things just malformed packets / frames sent to some machine 
> or what?
> I think versions of WinDos are vulnerable.

http://www.insecure.org/sploits/ping-o-death.html

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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-14 Thread Sven Burgener

On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:13:07PM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a 
> box after a few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about 
> those kinds of things.

Are these things just malformed packets / frames sent to some machine 
or what?
I think versions of WinDos are vulnerable.

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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:33 AM 9/13/00 -0600, Nathan wrote:
>What ping of death attacks?
>
>The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously
>quick after they came out.

Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a box after a
few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about those kinds of things.



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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Chris Wagner

At 11:33 AM 9/13/00 -0600, Nathan wrote:
>What ping of death attacks?
>
>The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously
>quick after they came out.

Maybe he means ping floods?  Pings of death usually will crash a box after a
few packets hit it.  As you said Debian is good about those kinds of things.



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Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan
What ping of death attacks?

The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously
quick after they came out.

On Wed, 13 Sep 100, Allen Ahoffman wrote:

> Yes, I should find this elsewhere, but for speed's sake I'll ask here
> anyway.
> 
> Is Linux Debian or other vulnerable to "ping of death" DOS attacks?
> Thanks.
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ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Allen Ahoffman
Yes, I should find this elsewhere, but for speed's sake I'll ask here
anyway.

Is Linux Debian or other vulnerable to "ping of death" DOS attacks?
Thanks.




Re: ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Nathan

What ping of death attacks?

The only ones I have heard of, were fixed with kernel patches seriously
quick after they came out.

On Wed, 13 Sep 100, Allen Ahoffman wrote:

> Yes, I should find this elsewhere, but for speed's sake I'll ask here
> anyway.
> 
> Is Linux Debian or other vulnerable to "ping of death" DOS attacks?
> Thanks.
> 
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ping of death attacks

2000-09-13 Thread Allen Ahoffman

Yes, I should find this elsewhere, but for speed's sake I'll ask here
anyway.

Is Linux Debian or other vulnerable to "ping of death" DOS attacks?
Thanks.


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