Re: JavaMail and JAF
Marcus Better wrote: MrDemeanour wrote: Hmm, to me it seems that oddly enough FSF considers it free: That seems to mean that it's Debian-compatible There is apparently no consensus on this point. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/08/msg00028.html Thanks, that's a very helpful link. -- Jack. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 15:15 +0200, Marcus Better wrote: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > what do you mean by "out of the box"? > > Sorry for being unclear. Can the classpathx versions work as drop-in > replacements for the Sun packages? > > (JBoss contains jar files for JavaMail 1.3.1 and JAF 1.0.2. I intend to > replace them with the ones from classpathx.) They really should. If you find issues doing that then please file bug reports. Thanks, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
MrDemeanour wrote: >> Hmm, to me it seems that oddly enough FSF considers it free: > That seems to mean that it's Debian-compatible There is apparently no consensus on this point. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/08/msg00028.html Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Timo Juhani Lindfors writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:33:03PM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > > It certainly doesn't appear on the FSF list of free licences. It is, > > Hmm, to me it seems that oddly enough FSF considers it free: > > $ lynx -dump http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html | grep -A 5 > "(CDDL)" >[101]Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) > This is a free software license which is not a strong copyleft; > it has some complex restrictions that make it incompatible with > the [102]GNU GPL. It requires that all attribution notices be > maintained, while the GPL only requires certain types of > notices. Also, it terminates in retaliation for certain You're right, it is there. I missed it. Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:33:03PM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: It certainly doesn't appear on the FSF list of free licences. It is, Hmm, to me it seems that oddly enough FSF considers it free: $ lynx -dump http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html | grep -A 5 "(CDDL)" [101]Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) This is a free software license which is not a strong copyleft; it has some complex restrictions that make it incompatible with the [102]GNU GPL. It requires that all attribution notices be maintained, while the GPL only requires certain types of notices. Also, it terminates in retaliation for certain That seems to mean that it's Debian-compatible - as far as I can see. I'm not aware that Debian-free is identical with GNU-free. I've just re-read the license, and it appears to be OK to me - IANAIPL. Can it not be built with free tools, perhaps? That's a Debian requirement. Does it depend on proprietary Sun runtime code? That would be a killer. I'm sorry - I know and care little about JAF - by "it", I mean "JavaMail". -- Jack. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Hi, On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 05:33:03PM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > It certainly doesn't appear on the FSF list of free licences. It is, Hmm, to me it seems that oddly enough FSF considers it free: $ lynx -dump http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html | grep -A 5 "(CDDL)" [101]Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL) This is a free software license which is not a strong copyleft; it has some complex restrictions that make it incompatible with the [102]GNU GPL. It requires that all attribution notices be maintained, while the GPL only requires certain types of notices. Also, it terminates in retaliation for certain best regards, Timo Lindfors pgpC9Fs6cLAwD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Tom Marble wrote: > Why not use Sun's JavaMail and JAF? It seems that the CDDL is not considered sufficiently free for Debian. At least that's what I gathered from the lengthy discussions on mailing lists. Or is there a decision to the opposite effect? Anyway I would rather leave it to someone else to package software with doubtful licenses. (Hint, hint.) Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
MrDemeanour writes: > Tom Marble wrote: > > Marcus Better wrote: > >> the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail > >> and Java Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether > >> the GNU versions (already in Debian) will work out of the box? > > > > Why not use Sun's JavaMail and JAF? As of April they are now Free > > software under the CDDL: > > http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/index.jsp > > Since when did the CDDL equate to "Free"? It certainly doesn't appear on the FSF list of free licences. It is, however, on the OSF list at http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.php Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: nekohtml
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Why did you put the original tarball in subversion? It needed to be repackaged (upstream contained binaries). So the tarball needs to be stored somewhere, to enable collaborative development. This location was suggested by Russ Allbery: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/debian/build-tools.html#svk It has the advantage that you can check out the trunk together with the tarball and use svn-buildpackage directly. Otherwise you would have to get the tarball from some other location and copy it manually to the right place. There is a debian/svn-layout file which tells svn-buildpackage about the layout. So, to build the package: $ svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-java/trunk/nekohtml $ cd nekohtml/nekohtml $ svn-buildpackage It will be built in build-area under the top-level directory. (Of course, if you don't need the orig tarball, just check out pkg-java/trunk/nekohtml/nekohtml and work on that.) Also note that trunk/nekohtml is just an integration branch. The feature branches (where the actual work takes place) are at http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/branches/nekohtml/ Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Tom Marble wrote: Marcus Better wrote: the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail and Java Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether the GNU versions (already in Debian) will work out of the box? Why not use Sun's JavaMail and JAF? As of April they are now Free software under the CDDL: http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/index.jsp Since when did the CDDL equate to "Free"? -- Jack. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Academic Survey on European Patents
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Re: JavaMail and JAF
Marcus Better wrote: > the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail and Java > Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether the GNU versions > (already in Debian) will work out of the box? Why not use Sun's JavaMail and JAF? As of April they are now Free software under the CDDL: http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/index.jsp HTH, --Tom _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (952) 832-4123 Senior Java Performance Engineer Sun Microsystems, Inc. http://blogs.sun.com/tmarbleWhat do you want from Java Libre? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: nekohtml
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Better wrote: > Second attempt: Anyone willing to sponsor this please? [...] >> The source is in the pkg-java svn repository: >> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/nekohtml/nekohtml/ Why did you put the original tarball in subversion? I'd like to clean up the repository, any objection? Cheers, - -- .''`. : :' :rnaud `. `' `- Java Trap: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE9usX4vzFZu62tMIRAhPAAJ4iP6lSf4OdmojL33gnnsgzTWUObwCfeZ4+ o7q/bGu4cmrYbWH9P7+/rjU= =icuh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Marcus Better writes: > Hello, > > the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail and Java > Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether the GNU versions > (already in Debian) will work out of the box? what do you mean by "out of the box"? If they don't work, please update the packages to more recent versions. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaMail and JAF
Matthias Klose wrote: > what do you mean by "out of the box"? Sorry for being unclear. Can the classpathx versions work as drop-in replacements for the Sun packages? (JBoss contains jar files for JavaMail 1.3.1 and JAF 1.0.2. I intend to replace them with the ones from classpathx.) Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: nekohtml
Second attempt: Anyone willing to sponsor this please? Marcus Better wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for a sponsor for my package "nekohtml". > > - > * Package name : nekohtml > Version : 0.9.5 > Upstream Author : Andy Clark > * URL or Web page : http://people.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/html/ > * License : CyberNeko Software License, Version 1.0 > Description : HTML parser for Java > > This is a simple HTML scanner and tag balancer that enables > application programmers to parse HTML documents and access the > information using standard XML interfaces. The parser can scan HTML > files and "fix up" many common mistakes that human (and computer) > authors make in writing HTML documents. NekoHTML adds missing parent > elements; automatically closes elements with optional end tags; and > can handle mismatched inline element tags. > - > > It builds these binary packages: > libnekohtml-java - HTML parser for Java > > The package can be found on mentors.debian.net: > - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/n/nekohtml > - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable > main contrib non-free > - dget > http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/n/nekohtml/nekohtml_0.9.5-1.dsc > > The source is in the pkg-java svn repository: > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-java/trunk/nekohtml/nekohtml/ > > Regards, > > Marcus > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JavaMail and JAF
Hello, the pkg-jboss project needs DFSG-free versions of Sun's JavaMail and Java Activation Framework libraries. Can anyone tell me whether the GNU versions (already in Debian) will work out of the box? Thanks, Marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
