Re: Bug#350399: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-04-15 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, All.

On Apr 15 2006, Shaun Jackman wrote:
 Azureus, the Java bit torrent client, ran using the most recent
 version of GIJ 4.1 from experimental.  It does not, however, run with
 the version of GIJ 4.1 in testing/unstable.

Thanks for the confirmation of the symptoms.

 I haven't looked into this much further. If there happens to be a
 Debian GCC maintainer interested in Azureus, I'd be keen to hear from
 him or her.

I'd love to know this also. I'm trying to get rid of all non-free
software that I possibly can. Right now, I've fallen back to using
rtorrent, but the ability of using Java applications would be a nice
thing.


Regards, Rogério.

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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-04-06 Thread Andrew Overholt
* Mladen Adamovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-14 10:16]:
 Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled  Eclipse in Fedora core 4 
 (Native Eclipse) and it was so unstable that in fact it was completely 
 useless. Shame on them.

Did you file bugs?  I know we've improved in FC5 but I honestly don't think
we were worthy of shame with our FC4 stuff.

Andrew


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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-16 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
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Mladen Adamovic wrote:

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 Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled Eclipse in
 Fedora core 4 (Native Eclipse) and it was so
 unstable that in fact it was completely useless.

I don't know Fedora but I use Eclipse 3.1.2 built native with gcj, the
package from Michael and I use it everyday now. It's really impressive
and I don't have problems no more. I got problems but when trying to
find out what it was, it was the latest WTP Eclipse plugin that causes
crashes... on the IBM vm too.

Ah yes, I forgot, I'm on ppc (Debian) ;-)

 Shame on them.

Oh! Bad attitude! Shame on you! :-D

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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-16 Thread Mladen Adamovic

Arnaud Vandyck wrote:

I don't know Fedora but I use Eclipse 3.1.2 built native with gcj, the
package from Michael and I use it everyday now. It's really impressive
and I don't have problems no more. I got problems but when trying to
find out what it was, it was the latest WTP Eclipse plugin that causes
crashes... on the IBM vm too.
Ah yes, I forgot, I'm on ppc (Debian) ;-)
  
I'm glad to hear it is improved. When I tried Native Eclipse on Fedora 
Core 4 it broke when I tried to create my first class.



Shame on them.


Oh! Bad attitude! Shame on you! :-D
  
Yes, you might have right.  It might be seen as a bad attitude. I mean, 
those people are trying and working...

I'm apologizing to Andrew and rest of Red Hat crew.


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Re: Bug#350399: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Robin Putters]
 How about uploading an Azureus 'pure' debian package to
 experimental, while GCJ4.1 is not in unstable yet?

Does it only work with gij?  What about the latest classpath release
and jamvm or cocoa?  If it work with those, it can to into unstable
directly.


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Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread robin putters
How about uploading an Azureus 'pure' debian package to experimental, while GCJ4.1 is not in unstable yet?


Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread Mladen Adamovic

robin putters wrote:
How about uploading an Azureus 'pure' debian package to experimental, 
while GCJ4.1 is not in unstable yet?

Did you test Azureus properly, and not just be able to compile it?
Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled  Eclipse in Fedora core 4 
(Native Eclipse) and it was so unstable that in fact it was completely 
useless. Shame on them.


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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Haley
Mladen Adamovic writes:
  robin putters wrote:
   How about uploading an Azureus 'pure' debian package to experimental, 
   while GCJ4.1 is not in unstable yet?
  Did you test Azureus properly, and not just be able to compile it?
  Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled  Eclipse in Fedora core 4 
  (Native Eclipse) and it was so unstable that in fact it was completely 
  useless. Shame on them.

Excuse me while I go behind the outhouse and shoot myself.

  Mladen Adamovic
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  http://www.shortopedia.com 
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The site is temporary down. We are sorry about this inconvenience.  :-)

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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread Mladen Adamovic

Andrew Haley wrote:

  Did you test Azureus properly, and not just be able to compile it?
  Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled  Eclipse in Fedora core 4 
  (Native Eclipse) and it was so unstable that in fact it was completely 
  useless. Shame on them.


Excuse me while I go behind the outhouse and shoot myself.
  

I hope you are kidding about that shooting!
Don't find me wrong, I really appreciate  all effort (your guys from) 
Red Hat and others are giving in gcj.


I see that there are few Red Hat employees working full time for gcj and 
there are more people also, and hopefully gcj
one day will be as stable as Sun's Java and I really think it would make 
big positive influence on Linux and big negative influence on Vista. I 
really believe that gcj could be really really important. It could break 
MS domination on the market.


But sometimes gcj used to make bad impressions and I think that Red Hat 
should avoid making those bad impressions, when possible.


I will see what Fedora 5 have to offer this week (waiting to FTP final 
release) and take better look inside new gcj.


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The site is temporary down. We are sorry about this inconvenience.  :-)

  

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Re: Azureus finally no longer needs non-free java. It works with gij.

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Haley
Mladen Adamovic writes:
  Andrew Haley wrote:
 Did you test Azureus properly, and not just be able to compile it?
 Guys from Red Hat included GCJ compiled  Eclipse in Fedora core 4 
 (Native Eclipse) and it was so unstable that in fact it was completely 
 useless. Shame on them.
  
   Excuse me while I go behind the outhouse and shoot myself.
 
  I hope you are kidding about that shooting!
  Don't find me wrong, I really appreciate  all effort (your guys from) 
  Red Hat and others are giving in gcj.
  
  I see that there are few Red Hat employees working full time for gcj and 
  there are more people also, and hopefully gcj
  one day will be as stable as Sun's Java and I really think it would make 
  big positive influence on Linux and big negative influence on Vista. I 
  really believe that gcj could be really really important. It could break 
  MS domination on the market.
  
  But sometimes gcj used to make bad impressions and I think that Red Hat 
  should avoid making those bad impressions, when possible.

So do I.  I regret the fact that you had a bad experience.

  I will see what Fedora 5 have to offer this week (waiting to FTP final 
  release) and take better look inside new gcj.

Thank you for displaying a slightly more reasonable attitude this time
around.  We make the best decisions we can, based on the information
that we have.  I cannot guarantee that we will always make the same
decisions that you would have made, but, despite whatever you may
think, we do test things and we are not cavalier about stability.  If
we believed that Eclipse was as unstable as you say it was, we would
not have included it.

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   The site is temporary down. We are sorry about this inconvenience.  :-)
  
 
  :) Nobody is perfect.

No kidding.

Andrew.


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