Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-21 Thread Matthias Klose
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Am 04.02.2013 18:27, schrieb Christian Bernardt:
> Package: default-jdk
> Version: 1.6-40
> Debian squeeze does provide openjdk-6-jdk as part of its default-jdk package.

yes, and most likely not to change.

> Here it can be seen that 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html Java 6 end of support 
> will be end of this month.

this is for binaries distributed by Oracle.

> We are relying on Java 7 and are supporting Debian squeeze.

It's nice to hear that you are supporting Debian squeeze, however Debian never
did release OpenJDK 7 in squeeze.  Or do you suggest helping to support
OpenJDK-7 in the upcoming Debian wheezy release?

> Will you not support Java  any longer or will openjdk-7-jdk be available on 
> squeeze?

Again, best join the discussion on debian-java, and step up for things you are
able to do.

> If you are not supporting java 7 what is the official repository or source 
> that should be used to install java 7 on debian squeeze?

If you don't create one, there is none.

  Matthias


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Re: Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-08 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 08.02.2013 06:37, schrieb tony mancill:
> I took a stab at this.  It's not quite as straight-forward as the steps 
> listed, but it may not be completely out of the realm of possibility (at 
> least not yet).

thanks for the flowers.

> Starting from a clean chroot:
> 
> 0) apt-get install devscripts wdiff lsb

well, wdiff shouldn't be there in the first place. lsb shouldn't be needed at
all. there is a b-d on lsb-release.

> 1) touch debian/rules && debian/rules debian/control 2) touch debian/rules
> && debian/rules debian/control

why double checking?

> 3) There is a build-dep on librhino-java (>= 1.7R3~).  This isn't available
> in squeeze, but it will build in a squeeze chroot.

please adjust the rules file.

> 4) Install the other build-deps.
> 
> 5) The configure step will fail complaining about missing GIO.  I'm not 
> sure what this refers to (perhaps someone knows what package this is?)

dpkg -S gio-2.0 should help you.

> or why it's not covered by the other build-deps, but I tried to work around
> it by adding "--disable-system-gio" to the CONFIGURE_ARGS in debian/rules.

acinclude.m4 requires 2.26, so the option looks ok.

> 6) debuild -us -uc
> 
> At this point, I was able to get much further along.  The package built and
> built and built and then started running tests.  It made it to: ...
>> Passed:
>> javax/sound/midi/Gervill/SoftSynthesizer/TestDisableLoadDefaultSoundbank.java
>>
>> 
FAILED: 
javax/sound/midi/Gervill/SoftSynthesizer/TestPreciseTimestampRendering.java
> 
> before the console output stopped.  I let it sit for about 10-15 minutes,
> but the CPU was pegged at 100% and a java process was using all the CPU it
> could get, so I interrupted the build.  There isn't anything more than that
> in the build logs.
> 
> I'm going to try the build in a clean sid chroot, just to establish a 
> baseline (and that I can build it), but if anyone has thoughts on what I 
> need to do to get GIO support in squeeze, I'd be appreciative.
> 
> One other tip for folks who'd like to build it - at some point during the
> tests, the package will queue a print job.  I nearly jumped out of my chair
> when my printer started up...

be prepared to be woken up by the sound tests.

anyway, please submit your changes as a bug report such that somebody else
won't run in these issues.

  Matthias


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Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-07 Thread tony mancill
On 02/04/2013 01:55 PM, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2013-02-04 18:27, Christian Bernardt wrote:
>> Package: default-jdk
>> Version: 1.6-40
>> Debian squeeze does provide openjdk-6-jdk as part of its default-jdk 
>> package. Here it can be seen that 
>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html Java 6 end of support 
>> will be end of this month.
>>
>> We are relying on Java 7 and are supporting Debian squeeze. Will you not 
>> support Java  any longer or will openjdk-7-jdk be available on squeeze?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> First off, thanks for your interest in Debian Java.
> 
> I am not sure how you can use Java 7 and support Debian Squeeze at the
> same time since Debian Squeeze has (to my knowledge) never shipped a
> Java 7 implementation.
> 
> The default-java will not change in Squeeze; there are simply too high a
> risk of breakage.  Particularly this was confirmed when we tried to
> migrate to Java7 as default in Wheezy - so, Java6 will also be the
> default in Wheezy (unfortunately).
> 
>> If you are not supporting java 7 what is the official repository or source 
>> that should be used to install java 7 on debian squeeze?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Kind regards. Christian
> 
> To my knowledge there is currently no one working on backporting
> openjdk-7 to Squeeze.  If they were to do so for Debian, it would very
> likely be via backports.debian.org.  Matthias Klose suggested this
> should be a simple matter of running
> 
>   $ touch debian/rules && debian/rules debian/control
> 
> on a Squeeze system in the unpacked openjdk-7 source package and then do
> a full build.  I have not tested this yet, but if it is true finding a
> backporter for OpenJDK-7 should be doable.  Any volunteers on d-java?  :)

Hi Niels,

I took a stab at this.  It's not quite as straight-forward as the steps
listed, but it may not be completely out of the realm of possibility (at
least not yet).

Starting from a clean chroot:

0) apt-get install devscripts wdiff lsb

1) touch debian/rules && debian/rules debian/control
2) touch debian/rules && debian/rules debian/control

3) There is a build-dep on librhino-java (>= 1.7R3~).  This isn't
available in squeeze, but it will build in a squeeze chroot.

4) Install the other build-deps.

5) The configure step will fail complaining about missing GIO.  I'm not
sure what this refers to (perhaps someone knows what package this is?)
or why it's not covered by the other build-deps, but I tried to work
around it by adding "--disable-system-gio" to the CONFIGURE_ARGS in
debian/rules.

6) debuild -us -uc

At this point, I was able to get much further along.  The package built
and built and built and then started running tests.  It made it to:
...
> Passed: 
> javax/sound/midi/Gervill/SoftSynthesizer/TestDisableLoadDefaultSoundbank.java
> FAILED: 
> javax/sound/midi/Gervill/SoftSynthesizer/TestPreciseTimestampRendering.java

before the console output stopped.  I let it sit for about 10-15
minutes, but the CPU was pegged at 100% and a java process was using all
the CPU it could get, so I interrupted the build.  There isn't anything
more than that in the build logs.

I'm going to try the build in a clean sid chroot, just to establish a
baseline (and that I can build it), but if anyone has thoughts on what I
need to do to get GIO support in squeeze, I'd be appreciative.

One other tip for folks who'd like to build it - at some point during
the tests, the package will queue a print job.  I nearly jumped out of
my chair when my printer started up...

Thank you,
tony



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Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-05 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/04/2013 05:27 PM, Christian Bernardt wrote:

> Debian squeeze does provide openjdk-6-jdk as part of its default-jdk
> package. Here it can be seen that
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html Java 6 end of
> support will be end of this month.

That's Oracle proprietary Java.  We'll be keeping OpenJDK 6 going.

Andrew.
(Project Lead, OpenJDK 6)


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Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-04 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2013-02-04 18:27, Christian Bernardt wrote:
> Package: default-jdk
> Version: 1.6-40
> Debian squeeze does provide openjdk-6-jdk as part of its default-jdk package. 
> Here it can be seen that 
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html Java 6 end of support 
> will be end of this month.
> 
> We are relying on Java 7 and are supporting Debian squeeze. Will you not 
> support Java  any longer or will openjdk-7-jdk be available on squeeze?

Hi,

First off, thanks for your interest in Debian Java.

I am not sure how you can use Java 7 and support Debian Squeeze at the
same time since Debian Squeeze has (to my knowledge) never shipped a
Java 7 implementation.

The default-java will not change in Squeeze; there are simply too high a
risk of breakage.  Particularly this was confirmed when we tried to
migrate to Java7 as default in Wheezy - so, Java6 will also be the
default in Wheezy (unfortunately).

> If you are not supporting java 7 what is the official repository or source 
> that should be used to install java 7 on debian squeeze?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kind regards. Christian

To my knowledge there is currently no one working on backporting
openjdk-7 to Squeeze.  If they were to do so for Debian, it would very
likely be via backports.debian.org.  Matthias Klose suggested this
should be a simple matter of running

  $ touch debian/rules && debian/rules debian/control

on a Squeeze system in the unpacked openjdk-7 source package and then do
a full build.  I have not tested this yet, but if it is true finding a
backporter for OpenJDK-7 should be doable.  Any volunteers on d-java?  :)

~Niels


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Bug#699757: Java 6 support ending, Java 7 not in squeeze

2013-02-04 Thread Christian Bernardt
Package: default-jdk
Version: 1.6-40
Debian squeeze does provide openjdk-6-jdk as part of its default-jdk package. 
Here it can be seen that http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html 
Java 6 end of support will be end of this month.

We are relying on Java 7 and are supporting Debian squeeze. Will you not 
support Java  any longer or will openjdk-7-jdk be available on squeeze?
If you are not supporting java 7 what is the official repository or source that 
should be used to install java 7 on debian squeeze?

Thank you.

Kind regards. Christian
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