Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-28 Thread Andrew Haley
CasperLinux writes:
 > I think you misunderstood my purpose:
 > 
 > On Monday 27 February 2006 10:03, Michael Koch wrote:
 > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 07:51:10AM -0500, CasperLinux wrote:
 > > > I am starting to learn programming Java (and programming in general for
 > > > that matter).  I'd like to use my Debian Testing box to work on.  I have
 > > > read and know that Eclipse is available but when I installed it the
 > > > plugin choices were not intuitive so I uninstalled it and decided to ask
 > > > "directions".
 > >
 > > I dont understand. What is wrong with Eclipse?
 > 
 > Nothing is wrong with Eclipse - just when I installed it and tried
 > to do something (and at this point I don't even remember what I was
 > doing) it kept asking for plugins I didn't have loaded.  I finally
 > threw in the towel and uninstalled it pending locating some
 > documetnation on what to load including plugins.

Well, if you can't remember what you were trying to do or what
happened, we can't help you.  We can't somehow get inside your skull
and figure out what you want.

Andrew.


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Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 06:22:42PM -0500, CasperLinux wrote:
> Nothing is wrong with Eclipse - just when I installed it and tried to do 
> something (and at this point I don't even remember what I was doing) it kept 
> asking for plugins I didn't have loaded.  I finally threw in the towel and 
> uninstalled it pending locating some documetnation on what to load including 
> plugins.

It asked you for installed more plugins? That's at least uncommon. Waht
Eclipse did you used? What do you did exactly? Maybe this is a bug in
the eclipse provided by Debian. Just to get sure on my side.


Cheers
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Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread CasperLinux
I think you misunderstood my purpose:

On Monday 27 February 2006 10:03, Michael Koch wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 07:51:10AM -0500, CasperLinux wrote:
> > I am starting to learn programming Java (and programming in general for
> > that matter).  I'd like to use my Debian Testing box to work on.  I have
> > read and know that Eclipse is available but when I installed it the
> > plugin choices were not intuitive so I uninstalled it and decided to ask
> > "directions".
>
> I dont understand. What is wrong with Eclipse?

Nothing is wrong with Eclipse - just when I installed it and tried to do 
something (and at this point I don't even remember what I was doing) it kept 
asking for plugins I didn't have loaded.  I finally threw in the towel and 
uninstalled it pending locating some documetnation on what to load including 
plugins.
>
> > I have not found a clear document via google.  Can someone either point
> > me to where I can determine what needs to be loaded and so advise.
>
> To learn a programming language like Java its generally a good idea to
> read a good book about this. Personally I learned it from "teach
> yourself java 1.1 programming in 24 hours". Its not the best but it was
> okay for me.

Got one.  Beginning Programming with Java for Dummies.  Very basic but met my 
needs.  Also I am in a BSIT program and beginning programming class next 
week.  Coupled together I should get some of this to come together.

Again, I have an IDE in windows but want to use Linux for this.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
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Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:58:12PM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote:
> In generally it is important that you have a "valid" java version 
> installed: java --version

What do you mean by this? What does "valid" mean in your context?
 
> Then just start eclipse by entering in any console
> 
> java -jar eclipse/startup.jar

That is the way you should not do it. If you use upstream eclipse use

$ECLIPSEDIR/eclipse

or with eclipse from Debian just use

eclipse


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Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Montag 27 Februar 2006 13:51 schrieb CasperLinux:
> I have not found a clear document via google.  Can someone either
> point me to where I can determine what needs to be loaded and so
> advise.

Hi there,

for beginners, BlueJ might be interesting to watch classes growing and 
study the behavior of objects. Later you can use eclipse as well. If 
you read German, try out this document (1).

In generally it is important that you have a "valid" java version 
installed: java --version

Then just start eclipse by entering in any console

java -jar eclipse/startup.jar

Good Luck
Ralf

1. http://skolelinux.de/wiki/RalfGesellensetter/Entwicklung/Java



Re: Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread Michael Koch
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 07:51:10AM -0500, CasperLinux wrote:
> I am starting to learn programming Java (and programming in general for that 
> matter).  I'd like to use my Debian Testing box to work on.  I have read and 
> know that Eclipse is available but when I installed it the plugin choices 
> were not intuitive so I uninstalled it and decided to ask "directions".

I dont understand. What is wrong with Eclipse?

> I have not found a clear document via google.  Can someone either point me to 
> where I can determine what needs to be loaded and so advise.

To learn a programming language like Java its generally a good idea to
read a good book about this. Personally I learned it from "teach
yourself java 1.1 programming in 24 hours". Its not the best but it was
okay for me.


Cheers,
Michael
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Install a Java IDE

2006-02-27 Thread CasperLinux
I am starting to learn programming Java (and programming in general for that 
matter).  I'd like to use my Debian Testing box to work on.  I have read and 
know that Eclipse is available but when I installed it the plugin choices 
were not intuitive so I uninstalled it and decided to ask "directions".

I have not found a clear document via google.  Can someone either point me to 
where I can determine what needs to be loaded and so advise.

I currently have an IDE on a windows box but I hate having to switch back and 
forth.

Don
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